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Author Topic: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !  (Read 50022 times)

Offline catdog71

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2012, 05:53:59 AM »
Simple magnetic motor that is so close to working
Simple magnetic motor that is so close to working
Simple magnetic motor that is so close to working

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj_A06WjlbU

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor replication..... need some magnetic shielding !
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2012, 12:06:07 PM »
thank you tao !
interesting !
but for me ...
I need a simple solution to my problem, and copper shielding is !
FREEZER have given me the right way and the easiest for my 50$ F E motor !

best regards

titof ;D

Somebody posted this link in a recent thread about shielding, I couldn't understand anything of the information on the product/material's effectiveness. http://magnetic-shield.com

I thought I heard a long time ago that copper shielding, like the magnet-down-a-pipe braking effect, was where the Magnet's movement was interacting with the copper pipe as a closed (electrical) circuit; a loop or ring of copper. Lenz's Law.

It might be interesting to experiment briefly and see if its true. I don't have any copper on me right now, but I would join in :)
Perhaps try cutting a few different lengths of copper pipe and bend/hammer them into more manageable flat shapes to try as blockers?

Also, looking at photos of Thing's rotor, I have some ideas...
A copper pipe slows down the flow of magnetism so why not fix the magnets inside copper elbows on each end of the rotor? They are cheap enough at a plumbing supply shop. They come in different sizes and possibly angles like 45o and 90o. You could use elbows for each magnet.
You could orientate the elbows (or pipes) as you want them using shims to stiffen the pvc connection. (anything to help wedge the pvc pipe and copper elbows together, such as a roll of paper or foil)

To carry on the idea, you could replace the pvc rotor with a length of copper pipe with suitable copper end pieces, fixed onto the axle/bearings somehow. If I had that motor on my bench, that is what I would try next, thick copper elbows.

Wooden dowels may be used as spacers inside the rotor to keep the magnets apart, also maybe put magnet in blutack or putty to help it stay in.

A good balance is best for running any rotor. Using existing bearings are a good idea too, as NerzhDishual suggested, and vertical axis is more stable I think.
Use a flywheel, it will provide useable turning power as momentum increases.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2012, 01:27:17 PM by Spirality »

Offline Spirality

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor replication..... need some magnetic shielding !
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2012, 09:09:02 AM »
... A copper pipe slows down the flow of magnetism so why not fix the magnets inside copper elbows on each end of the rotor? ...
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 ... you could replace the pvc rotor with a length of copper pipe with suitable copper end pieces, fixed onto the axle/bearings somehow.

Well, I played about with some magnets and copper pipe in my local DIY shop and am sorry to say, the magnets still interact with each other through the copper.
so much for that idea.
I know iron and steel can divert the flux, but they are far from ideal.

I will keep testing different materials as I encounter them, there is magnetic shielding out there somewhere !!

The ancient artifact about 1/4 down the linked page has magnetic shielding....
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_life48.htm

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And on the big cup you can see a perfect inlaid star constellation also showing the Orion and other stars. And inside the big cup it is very, very magnetic and outside the cup nearly nothing.

Professional geologists are saying this is impossible because if a stone has metal particles inside the stone, it must be same magnetic from both sides.

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor replication..... need some magnetic shielding !
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2012, 09:09:02 AM »
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Offline wizkycho

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2012, 11:39:17 AM »
Hi all !
I see there are lot's of good experimenters
but what you are trying to replicate is overstreched
and has very high sensitivity in order to work.
it is overhard to replicate
allso energy output is low
If you want something that works
  I suggest you turn to, with no false modesty, FDM by Igor Knitel
I'm experimenter in these waters for a long time and this is the most powerfull FE device I have seen
(MAHG from JNAUDIN is very good device but little complicated to make)
 
all the best
Igor Knitel
Perihelion Labs
 
 
 
 

Offline Spirality

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2012, 03:45:08 PM »
.... If you want something that works
  I suggest you turn to, with no false modesty, FDM by Igor Knitel
....
Can you make a link please Igor? Any search I do only gives one result, that is your comment here.
thanks

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2012, 03:45:08 PM »
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Offline wizkycho

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2012, 06:11:10 PM »
FDM is brand new design, knowone has proposed such simple yet powerfull arrangement of magnets
I'm overconvinced by experiments (underlinks) that I have made and other true OU researchers
that it is powerfull, it is very duable (no heavy adjustments), and it is real thing, no tricks here
everything about FDM is exact no maybeies
http://www.overunity.com/12632/fdm-flux-displacer-motor-by-igor-knitel-perihelion-labs/msg333802/#msg333802
 
wiz

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2012, 07:47:53 AM »
As the thickness of a nearby steel plate increases, so does the "absorption" of the magnetism, and the magnetic effect is "steered" towards it.
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=shielding-materials

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What material will work?
The short answer is: Any ferromagnetic metal. That is, anything containing iron, nickel or cobalt. Most steels are ferromagnetic metals, and work well for a redirecting shield....
....there are some specialized materials specifically made for magnetic shielding. The foremost of these is MuMetal, an industry reference material defined in Milspec 14411C [linked on page].

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2012, 07:47:53 AM »
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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2014, 11:55:14 PM »
Have anyone ever studied the effects of lenses on the magnetic fiel

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Simple magnetic motor that is so close to working
Simple magnetic motor that is so close to working
Simple magnetic motor that is so close to working

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj_A06WjlbU
Omg please check this video.  The best magnetic shielding is spin.  This video shows 55lbs magnet losing its attraction to a steel disk due to spin. Enjoy
Also Watch "The best magnetic shielding is spin" on YouTube
The best magnetic shielding is spin:http://youtu.be/8C6uyQ0bct4

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