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Author Topic: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !  (Read 50549 times)

Offline titof

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Hi OU friends ! :)

I tried to replicate

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/trmdiag.htm

not working for some reasons...  mechanic negative torque ...
I must tune  the magnet position...
But I wonder if Aluminium sheets Could be replaced by a better magnetic shielding ?

The problem is ... what kind of magnetic shielding?
It would be a better device to make without this problem ...

help !!! :-[
« Last Edit: December 17, 2007, 05:45:01 PM by titof »

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor replication..... need some magnetic shielding !
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2007, 03:33:03 PM »
hey guys ! :-[
I just want to know what you think about it
not to shearch for me -

Has someone maked this type of   device  working ?

many thanks !
 ;D


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Re: nelson camus' reed motor replication..... need some magnetic shielding !
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2007, 05:00:10 PM »
This guy uses copper somehow for magnetic shielding.  Might want to try a thick piece of copper, and maybe even some metals in between.

Scroll to 13:50

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8377251139652777219&q=free+electricity&total=2393&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor replication..... need some magnetic shielding !
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The ultimate magnetic shielding...
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 05:17:51 PM »
You want magnetic shielding?!?

<engage: slight sarcasm mixed with potential truth>

Why not use a superconductor, the PERFECT magnetic shield...

Oh, whats wrong, can't find yourself a ROOM TEMPERATURE superconductor?

Why not look in in sea salt, or water? 'What', you say???

An apparently 'UNTESTED FOR FREE ENERGY devices' room temperature superconductive element.... ORMEs...

Have a look-see: http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/hudson.htm


"Researchers working with large magnetic fields discovered in the 1960's that metals when induced into a high spin state (using energies of approximately 540,000 gauss) were capable of passing energy from one high spin atom to the next with no net loss of energy! This was the discovery of superconductivity.

Superconductivity allows the conduction of energy through a resonance phenomenon. Unlike electrical conduction, energy can be passed from one superconductor to another with contact, without resistance and, therefore, with no net loss of energy.

To create superconductivity in a potential superconductor, an external magnetic field must be applied to get the system going. Once the flow of energy is set in motion, however, it is only necessary to keep the conditions correct so that the material remains superconductive. (Note: When it takes more energy to create a magnetic field to keep the atoms in the high spin low energy state than it would take to push electricity down a good conductor, the process is self defeating.)

Atoms could now be induced into a high spin state of low energy and be kept in that state without continuous applied energy boosts. The system currently in use, to induce atoms into a high spin state of low energy, is refrigeration combined with extremely high magnetic fields of approximately 540,000 gauss. The system now in use, to keep the atoms in the high spin state, is refrigeration to near absolute zero. All of this is an elaborate and expensive process."



"David Hudson discovered that the monoatomic state can exist naturally and remain in a stable state in the transitional group elements. (ORME) He also discovered that in this state, the atoms can join to become a many atom resonance coupled system of quantum oscillators, resonating in two dimensions, indeed perfect superconductors, at room temperature. (S-ORME)

Hudson discovered that the precious elements, in the group of transitional elements, could be found in a monoatomic form in certain ores and that by a chemical method, he could separate them out from these ores. The high spin low energy state is stable and naturally maintained. it needs no external manmade manipulation. The internal temperature of the atom is measured to be almost zero degrees Kelvin .(approximately three degrees). This is a naturally cold state. It is, in fact, a perfect superconductor. "


What the matter, never heard of ORMEs before? Heard of ORMEs but never saw how they were superconductive? Don't believe they are/can be room temperature superconductors???

Need some evidence???

Watch this attached video......................

More later, as always.......

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor replication..... need some magnetic shielding !
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 08:15:23 PM »
wow!  great video !   my mind is now on !
wow!
wowowowowow!
i tried to let a magnet fall in a copper pipe !
amazing !

this will be a working device soon for me!    yahooooo!

muchas gracias !
merci beaucoup !
an infinity of thanks guys !
I will show results if it works !
 ;D :P


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Re: nelson camus' reed motor replication..... need some magnetic shielding !
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Re: nelson camus' reed motor replication..... need some magnetic shielding !
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 08:24:09 PM »
thank you tao !
interesting !
but for me ...
I need a simple solution to my problem, and copper shielding is !
FREEZER have given me the right way and the easiest for my 50$ F E motor !

best regards

titof ;D



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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! now solved !!!!
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2007, 08:19:31 PM »
Don't get too excited.  :D  Remember he could have some other metal in that demonstration piece.  I think the primary is pure copper, and just maybe copper alone, but it could hold some other metal between the magnet and copper.  He says the reason its in-cased in epoxy is that they don't want people seeing how it works, so who knows if there's some addition metal pieces.  I think the copper will have to be thick enough.  Thick pieces copper seem to be very expensive, but it should have interesting effects none the less.

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! now solved !!!!
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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! now solved !!!!
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2007, 10:18:29 PM »
yeah ... freezer .
you're maybe right.
I did some tryings:

I let falling a group of 5 little neodyme(15mm*15mm*5mm) magnets in a coper pipe (30mm* 1mm* 1000mm)
THE SAME EFFECT ! ??? ;D
It fall in the pipe in 6 or 7 seconds !!!
I did the same in a aluminium pipe (38mm*3mm**1000mm)
THE SAME EFFECT ! but a little faster!
I then tried the copper pipe in the bigger al pipe :  8 or 9 second

REALLY AMAZING :o
the copper stop the magnetic movement  as in the video

I then hammered 6 pieces of 60mm long of 30mm-copper pipe to make a thick piece and I tried
to make same experience with a magnet and a piece of steel( a screw)
the srew falls !  no lies !

the aluminium is less efficient for that effect!

REALLY interesting!

but ...but... a thick piece of copper between 2 magnets ...
There is however a little attraction .hmmm
good!....
good start !
A "one block" thick piece of copper will be surely more efficient.
hard to find... no... we can ! but very expensive!

I must try

One thing I wonder:

Is it possible to make a motor with a steel rotor ,   copper blockers and magnets ... And geniously time the repusling effect
MY HEAD MAKES SMOKE!   but I'm sure it's possible


to be continued ! :P

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2007, 05:58:58 PM »
   Here is a bit to ponder for you. The pipe will delay the fall of the magnets. If you put a piece of copper sheet near a rotor of an open motor, it will slow it down. So, use pieces of copper sheet a bit wider than the magnets for the shield. You may have to spin the rotor up but it will then invoke eddy currents in the sheets and thus cause turbulance in the magnetic pattern. Just not sure what polarity it will become. It will at first be oposed to the passing.
   Now I have to go and try it. Darn.....

thaelin

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2007, 06:15:48 PM »
it is also in the video ...
copper opposite a resistance when you shake a magnet in front ...
but why did he present this in the video ?

Maybe the blocker must have a special shape ...  triangle? ...

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2007, 10:36:42 PM »
it is also in the video ...
copper opposite a resistance when you shake a magnet in front ...
but why did he present this in the video ?

Maybe the blocker must have a special shape ...  triangle? ...

He's showing a little bit of the principle of his motor.  He first shows the rotating piece of metal which sticks when it comes within the field of the magnet.  Then he shows how to block the field.  So basically you have metal rotor being attracted, then when it comes close to the magnet, its field is blocked to not stick.  It would be a metal rotor so no drag would be created by the copper.  All this would have to be made with precision to work.  I think the way they use it, is as a flywheel pushing a generator, so theirs might not turn itself, but add more torque to turn a generator and gather more energy.  He says 5:1, but who knows.

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2007, 11:31:37 PM »
Hi Titof;

I made my own version of the nelson camus reed motor several years ago.  I used aluminum shielding as the original instructions called for but I had absolutely no luck getting it to spin more that a few revolutions. My motor was made out of aluminum  and steel as you can see in the photos and I had full adjustments to all parameters including spacing, angle,and position for both the magnets and the shielding.  I must have tried every different position available but could not get any results.  I had totally forgotten about it until I saw your posting.  Perhaps I will try different shielding material if you guys get any results with your efforts.

Good Luck
Vince

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2007, 11:02:17 AM »
Vince,
are there many armatures made of metal?
Too many?
I think we have to use metal only in the region where it should act.
A whole dielectric structure with only the blockers made of an electric conductive material.
Maybe also magnets out of an ceramic type material.
The right rpm should be the second factor to be resolved.
Only at a speed which induces the right ammount of local current to the structure, this was also a problem described by J.L.Naudin in that years.
Stay tuned
Anton 

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2007, 01:13:46 PM »
happy to see your work vince ::)

Now we 've got the problem to find the right thick of blockers , the right surface size of it , and the right positon of blockers between each facing couple of magnet

see the video  on this post
we must reflect a little .
magnet + copper = no steel attract
can we insert any piece of steel in the device ?  maybe a right way ...

I think no other pieces of steel could be insert like screws ... no magnetic parasite  needed !

this device should logically work :
we must geniousely shield the magnets with other materials

nelson camus had succes ? was he lying ? I don't believe it

realize ! we have a simple device which can be a 50 $ or ? one ? every size is possible  ...
I dont speak about power and RPM ... It adjustable with blocker positionning !
we can tune an ac voltage as we need !

PLEASE ALL !

LET S REFLECT TOGETHER !

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Re: nelson camus' reed motor ..... need magnetic shielding ! to be solved !
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2007, 06:43:10 PM »
I don't remember where I was reading this ..
but a type of magnetic shielding could be a mix of gypse and iron powder !!??!!
Maybe the copper blocker must have a special shape ...
ARE THERE ANY MATERIAL which eat magnetic field ?
to use the inverse polarity of this field could be a solution .. but hard to realize ...
maybe with electro-magnets ... It 's out of that we want !...
We want only a magnet-motor , no ? ...
 :-\
I wonder ..
Is there a type of cristal which reacts with magnetic fields ...like piezo's ..

Maybe it's a better way to work on perendev-like motor


 

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