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Bessler007

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2008, 06:25:25 AM »
Hello gaby de wilde,

In as much as noblefuse posted this point:

i will not write again- as i see it is more important to make another video and explain further- i do not like typing- and many things are taken out of context- as you all know-

however- if you are sincere- find me at my website of noblefuse

and also given they were the ones that started this thread I assumed they weren't going to add anything further.

How is that delusional?

I might add most thinking people know how to find what others have posted.  I don't really need the plug but thanks.


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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2008, 06:37:05 AM »
This is a valid question and I am interested in an answer.  It's also not an easy question to answer reasonably from my perspective.  The fact is there is no material fact Bessler had a working wheel in as much as we don't know how it worked.  There is Wagner's example of a similar contraption that was wound up.

The nature of the question is to shake loose those that would attempt to hijack credit from anyone presently working on gravity wheels that might solve the problem.  If the vague clues of Bessler were of any merit I'd think they would have led those looking to the answer by now.  That hasn't happened.

This is a bit of a derail but you are the one attempting to make a point.  I clearly am interested in opinions that would change my mind.  If I weren't I wouldn't waste the time to ask.


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. . .Your websites says: " What is the most compelling evidence Bessler wasn't either a fraud or deluded?"  So you are CLEARLY not looking for the truth.. . .

gaby de wilde

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2008, 01:47:37 PM »
I like all the refs to Tesla, Einstein.  And God, etc.  Dang, that will be hard to live up to just based on what I have read about all ov them.

Sounds like a sales pitch to me.

Oh but it is a sales pitch.

You may now explain why exploitation should be preserved for the filthy rich.

Microsoft = good

Exxon Mobile =  good

lone invention = eviol!!!

That's how your brain works? Must hate speech now! Cant resist the urge!!!?

WTF? I have no understanding for it.

@BSer007

Hello Mr disinformation! Why you are delusional you want to know?

You are acting retarded in the context of this man's life. You are expecting this guy to give up on something he worked at for years.  Now if that isn't delusional in your small book then you will never know.

You indeed made him give up on posting here.

You seem fucking proud of it. But I think it's pathetic, you should give up now. Nothing indicates the topic starter is interested in anything you spew at him.

a quote from you:

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The one thing I'm very skeptical about is your ability to find your arse with two hands, a map and a compass.

What obvious disinformation newb.


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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2008, 02:01:56 PM »
@gdw

Good call on @BSer007. Add that to what he just spewed out to Erfinder on The Tesla Project thread, which is totally unacceptable, and I would agree this guy is scheduled to be shifted out of here at warp 10. He only spews craps, asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2008, 03:24:26 PM »
@gdw

Good call on @BSer007. Add that to what he just spewed out to Erfinder on The Tesla Project thread, which is totally unacceptable, and I would agree this guy is scheduled to be shifted out of here at warp 10. He only spews craps, asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.

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Whattsup

You  got  my vote on that   


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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2008, 04:18:42 PM »
@gdw

Good call on @BSer007. Add that to what he just spewed out to Erfinder on The Tesla Project thread, which is totally unacceptable, and I would agree this guy is scheduled to be shifted out of here at warp 10. He only spews craps, asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.

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I do more looking and listening here and not much posting but I must say I totally agree with gdw on this also... >:(

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2008, 06:53:05 PM »
You are acting retarded in the context of this man's life. You are expecting this guy to give up on something he worked at for years.  Now if that isn't delusional in your small book then you will never know.

You indeed made him give up on posting here.

Next you'll be blaming me for global warming.  What is retarded is to attack with sweeping generalization avoiding any specific point.  I understand that tactic.  That permits you the retarded tactic of attack on multiple fronts with very little substance.

Most likely any look at the vague ambiguous Over Unity or Free Energy is handled in the same manner.  A very diffused attempt so you can claim you're making an effort.

I have no expectations of noblefuse except for him to keep his word.  People are their own responsibility.


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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2008, 06:54:07 PM »
If any want to address any specific point I've made I'll discuss it.  If you want to hide behind a lame attack of a sweeping generalization you can kiss my arse.


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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2008, 07:12:28 PM »
This is an excellent example of your lame reasoning.  First it frames a very weak point for the one you're attacking.  It was never their point but you'd like to make it and call them to defend it.  Very stupid.

Yet then when you look at the point of asking someone to defend the corporate world I have to ask do you use oil?  Microsoft?  You want to attack the nebulous corporate world but you want to exclude any support you've given to it.

It's a lame tactic but it points to your desire to escape any responsibility.  Well if that's how your brain works I think you need to dislodge it from your hind quarters and get a little oxygen to it.

If similar straw men are your lab assistants you need to start wishing for a brain.


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Oh but it is a sales pitch.

You may now explain why exploitation should be preserved for the filthy rich.

Microsoft = good

Exxon Mobile =  good

lone invention = eviol!!!

That's how your brain works? Must hate speech now! Cant resist the urge!!!?

WTF? I have no understanding for it.

You need to start addressing the points and stop making lame points for other people.

gaby de wilde

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #69 on: January 24, 2008, 07:54:36 PM »
He only spews craps, asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.

We do have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps he is really looking for something that works. If that's the case at least he writes what he thinks. I don't want to silence anyone. I'm just sick from reading posts like his. Perhaps he doesn't know what effect his words have on his subjects. I believe this is why the skeptical forum exists? That even does good work where it is? The rest of the forums should be occupied with collecting evidence IMHO. I imagine a forum full of information not a forum full of people complaining about the lack of it.

This is an excellent example of your lame reasoning.  First it frames a very weak point for the one you're attacking.  It was never their point but you'd like to make it and call them to defend it.  Very stupid.

Sure, I accept your apology.

ha-ha-ha

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2008, 08:23:39 PM »
... Perhaps he is really looking for something that works.

Here's the perfect switch for your device (see pic) - "It's only offensive when he's turned on!"

- Schpankme

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2008, 09:41:59 PM »
I am absolutely discussed at what OU.com has become! 

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2008, 10:28:54 PM »
Hello watt soup,

Could you kindly explain your reason for objecting to any specific "spewed crap" in view of this piece of hypocritical crap you've just "spewed"?

I do understand questioning your hypocrisy might be seen as "a big shot question" and that "you don't owe me (schmuck? lol) any explanation.  My big shot question is "why are you such a hypocrite?"

I might offer an answer.  You assume you have the right to be what you object in others.  You think  you have more rights than those you attack..  Walk on, dude.  Don't get too much of that water behind your ears.


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Good call on @BSer007. Add that to what he just spewed out to Erfinder on The Tesla Project thread, which is totally unacceptable, and I would agree this guy is scheduled to be shifted out of here at warp 10. He only spews craps, asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2008, 11:40:19 PM »
Noblefuse,
One of my first posts I jumped to a conclusion which was very unscientific of me, I'm sorry for that and what I said.
As you can see from subsequent posts by others, the frustration that rises in me from this forum.
You have obviously spent a lot of time on this subject and are serious about what you are doing.
If you are still reading, there are some questions that need answering.
First of all, how did you measure overunity?
Second, does the spacing of the electrodes affect the output?
Thirdly, what is the output? Excess heat, gamma radiation, H+O ?
I have looked through your PDF several times now, but it seems somewhat hypothetical to me, I work with
real machines so can understand the experiment much better than the theory on how it works.
I am in a real position to replicate this if what you say makes more sense.
Regards
GS

To others,
It's a shame that 5 pages of this topic is probably only really 1 because of all the personal garbage that people post.
It's a shame this forum doesn't have more rules such as no double (triple) posting and no off the topic remarks.
It's a shame a whole heap of banning doesn't occur for rule breakers.
Never thought I'd be the one to say that, but it really works well for other forums, and it makes people civil and focused.
just my 2c
GS
« Last Edit: January 25, 2008, 02:08:38 AM by Goldsphere »

gaby de wilde

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Re: I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2008, 04:04:56 AM »
I just don't see what is so vulnerable about investors.

Investment banking is a well known and well established kind of usury

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/usury

Perhaps it's more funny reading it in the Catholic Encyclopedia

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15235c.htm

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In the article INTEREST we have reserved the question of the lawfulness of taking interest on money lent; we have here to consider first, usury as condemned by all honest men.

Plato (Laws, v. 742) and Aristotle (Politics, I, x,xi) considered interest as contrary to the nature of things;

Aristophanes expressed his disapproval of it, in the "Clouds" (1283 sqq.);

Cato condemned it (see Cicero, "De officiis, II, xxv), comparing it to homicide, as also did Seneca (De beneficiis, VII, x) and Plutarch in his treatise against incurring debts.

So much for Greek and Roman writers, who, it is true, knew little of economic science.

Aristotle disapproved of the money trader's profit; and the ruinous rates at which money was lent explain his severity. On the other hand, the Roman and Greek laws while considering the mutuum, or loan for consumption, as a contract gratuitous in principle, allowed a clause, stipulating for the payment of interest, to be added to the bond.

The Law of the Twelve Tables allowed only unciarium fenus, probably one-twelfth of the capital, or 8.33 per cent. A plebiscitum, lex Ganucia, 412 a.u.c. went so far as to forbid all interest whatever, but, at a later period, the Roman law allowed interest at 1 per cent monthly, or 12 per cent per annum.

Justinian laid down as a general rule that this maximum should be reduced by half (L. 26, I, c. De usuris, IV, 32).

Chaldea allowed interest on loans (cf. Law of Hammurabi, 48 sqq.).

No absolute prohibition can be found in the Old Testament;  at most, Exod., xxii, 25, and Deut., xxiii, 19, 20, forbid the taking of interest by one Jew from another.

In the Christian era, the New Testament is silent on the subject; the passage in St. Luke (vi, 34, 35), which some persons interpret as a condemnation of interest, is only an exhortation to general and disinterested benevolence.

A certain number of authors, among them Benedict XIV (De synodo diocesana, X., iv, n. 6), believed in the existence of a Patristic tradition which regarded the prohibitory passages of Holy Scripture as of universal application.

Examination of the texts, however, leads us to the following conclusions: Until the fourth century all that can be inferred from the Fathers and ecclesiastical writers is that it is contrary to mercy and humanity to demand interest from a poor and needy man.

amen  ;D