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Author Topic: One of my many pulse motor ideas.  (Read 7300 times)

Offline nightlife

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One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« on: December 09, 2007, 05:13:26 AM »
 Magnetic compression motor by way of using magnets as pistons and a head with electronic coils and one way valves for air inlet and out put.

 The coils would require a pulse to repel the magnet at the top of the stroke and then attract on pistons bottom of the stroke. This design is a 2 cylinder design that would use one coils collapsing voltage to power the other and vice versa. When one is at the top of the stroke, the other would be at the bottom of the stroke and vice versa.

 Not only would this create compressed air but it should also create horse power.

 Please give me some of your thoughts about this idea. I have more that I may be posting later so be nice. LOL

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One of my many pulse motor ideas.
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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2007, 06:22:05 AM »
I was also thinking that the outside of the cylinders could be wound and used to create electricity.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2007, 08:30:19 AM »
I am also thinking that the compression created could run a generator simular to the one in the link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktzwr1UjO90

 I am also thinking that a larger generator could be powered by the turbine in the above video. The turbine is said to be rotating at 38000 rpm's creating 14 amps at 10.5 volts with the small generator using 7.4 psm at 55 psi.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2007, 08:30:19 AM »
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Offline Ren

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 12:12:20 PM »
sounds good in theory, have you considered how you will deal with friction of piston against cylinder wall? Is piston made of non magnetic material and magnet recessed in head? Magnets are very brittle, and if you want to compress air or anything for that matter you're going to need an airtight seal. Have a look at Tropes in this forum, he is tinkering with a piston style electro magnetic motor.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2007, 03:27:15 PM »
Ren, I was thinking of using copper cylinders with thick copper compression rings. I just read about Tropes idea but the link that was provided didn't work. His idea is based on the attraction which may work but I thought that using both the attraction and repulsion would make it more powerful. I was also thinking that the friction between the rings and the cylinders having the cylinders wired to the windings that would wrap the outside of the cylinders would create enough power to fire the coils or at least aid or supply the source that would.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2007, 03:37:34 PM »
 Ren, I forgot to mention that I was thinking the pistons could be the actual magnet and because there is no actual fuel being used and the cylinders would remain cool from the air that it is bringing in. As far as the head. It could be a flat head using a modern cylinder head gasket design that would have the coil in the middle and the inlet valve on one side with the outlet valve on the other.

 I am no physicist nor am I a scientist but this makes sense to me not that my level of common sense is up to par but until I am shown other wise, I feel this as well as my other ideas could work.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2007, 09:29:10 PM »
you would still have the internal friction of the magnet edge rubbing against cylinder wall. Although with no heat involved youd be free to make your cylinder out of nylon/delrin, which also has excellent wearing/friction properties. I saw an engine being developed a few years ago called the rev tech that did away with the crankshaft altogether. The horizontally opposed  pistons bumped a rotary style cam to turn the drive shaft or something like that. It was incredibly efficient, idled at like 70 rpm or something on next to no fuel. It would have been great to convert to hydrogen power. My point is if you can eliminate as much of the drive train as possible and reduce internal friction you will dramatically increase efficiency of the electromagnets.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
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Offline nightlife

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2007, 10:26:22 PM »
Ren, I was thinking that copper cylinder walls and the magnet "piston" being fitted with thick copper rings would create electricity that could be harnessed by using wrapping the cylinders with wire making each cylinder a alternator.

 I read about Trope and another members idea that you mentioned and they have a good idea that could designed a bit better by using the coils as the cylinders and using only one piston with a rod out of each end and using the back EMF and or collapsing field to bring the pistons back by reversed polarity.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2007, 03:50:37 AM »
Here is a picture I made up to explain things better. This is one cylinder that could have others added to it to make it more powerful. I also believe another magnet could be added to the springs as well as another coil winding set up. I also believe that a 12 volt battery would run 4 or more of these and that series of 12 volt batteries would also add power.

http://www.snickkers.net/motor

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2007, 07:24:01 AM »
Now if anyone says nightlife doesn't spend some serious time thinking... there defiantly wrong! He spends the largest ammt of time ive ever witnessed in one thread "Thinking"


I was thinking that-December 09, 2007, 09:26:22 PM

I forgot to mention that I was thinking -December 09, 2007, 02:37:34 PM

I was thinking of using-December 09, 2007, 02:27:15 PM

I am also thinking that the compression-December 09, 2007, 07:30:19 AM

I am also thinking that a larger generator-December 09, 2007, 07:30:19 AM

I was also thinking that- December 09, 2007, 05:22:05 AM

I also believe another magnet-Today at 02:50:37 AM

I also believe that a 12 volt battery-Today at 02:50:37 AM

All but one post contained  a "message" that was clear after reading them all-

"I have no intention of trying any of my outlandish ideas, but i insist that frequency is electricity and you should build this... but well im going back to thinking now"


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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2007, 10:19:28 PM »
Localjoe, please don't post something stating I quoted something I didn't. I have stated before that I will build something but I am not sure exactly which way to go at this point. This why I post so many different ideas in hopes of getting some positive and or negative feed back. Although I do insist that frequencies are electricity, I am not sure what the best way is to capture enough of it to be able to utilize it as a power source. I am always thinking about different ways to produce free energy do to the quest I now have. The last design is one I feel would work good using a pulse design.

 Merry Christmas and or happy holidays to you and your family and please keep what I said in mind next time your read one of my postings.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2007, 02:56:18 AM »
 I am trying to post pictures of what I was talking about.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2007, 03:00:35 AM »
 I did it, LOL Here is another design.

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2007, 08:34:36 PM »
nightlife:

I don't have enough advanced knowledge of electricity to comment on these posted designs, but I did want to complement you on the graphics.  What program did you use?  Thanks.

Bill

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Re: One of my many pulse motor ideas.
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2007, 08:45:46 PM »
G'day nightlife,

You should really do some reading up on eddy currents. If you push a magnet through a copper tube eddy, currents will appear that slow the magnet down considerably. In fact if you keep bouncing the magnet back and forth the eddy currents will make the entire contraption red hot and the heat will destroy the magnetism in the magnet. Similarly your coil on the outside imposes drag as well.

You will need to expend far more force to move the magnet than the magnet can generate.

Sorry mate but it's back to the drawing board for you. Take heart though, we all have been there many, many times  :D

Hans von Lieven

 

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