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Author Topic: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD  (Read 30216 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« on: December 06, 2007, 02:55:19 AM »
Hi All,
I had bought the Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD and this is really
a great DVD with all the exact details how to build a no CounterEMF motor,
that is just a motor and has no generator effect built in.

So basically it is an Anti-Lentz law design, as the input current
does not rise, if you drag down the turning rotor .

Dr.Lindemann explains all the details  and compares it versus
conventional DC motors, so this DVD is also really great for
motor beginners.

Have a look at it here:

http://www.free-energy.ws/products.html


Here are 2 youtube videos of it,
describing it a bit already,
but the DVD is still a lot better:


Part One:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvNIXyUXXqg
Part Two:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkRYySGrPmM

If this could be scaled up and the COP could be scaled up too,
it would be possible to run a generator / alternator with it and selfpower
itsself.

I think his new S-Rotor design is the most important thing in recent
pulse motor designs, that can be scaled up to go over COP > 1.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2007, 03:51:52 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2007, 03:34:35 AM »
The motor we see in the video, use 2 magnets in the rotor, what the video show is only the reed switch system?

So the motor can by an ordinary pulse motor "a la" bedini instead of using what he using?

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 03:51:04 AM »
Here is a homepage from a user named Eric,
who has replicated the effect:

http://home.comcast.net/~ecousins25/wsb/html/view.cgi-photos.html-.html

Also Dr. Lindemann wrote in another forum:

My DVD covers a lot of ground. First, I show how to build a Dynamometer, and then run a Dyno test on an induction motor. Then, I show exactly what Back EMF in the motor is, and why it is the main factor holding back the performance of the motor. Then I show the history of motor designs that have No Back EMF, and what the problems have been in allowing these motors to produce high torque. That brings us to Teal's Magnipulsion Engine and how he solved these problems. I also show an advanced motor I built in 1983 that solved most of these problems, as well. I end with some speculative designs that have not been fully tested yet, but are in the process of being tested now.

So, there is a lot to learn. The purpose of the DVD is to get people to think about Zero Back EMF designs as the way to produce motors with COP > 1.

With all of this in mind, you may want to wait for some more definitive testing data to come in. On the other hand, some people like to be shown basic principles so they can come up with their own design that works. There are dozens of "solutions" that will allow a working model to operate in the high torque "window" while returning most of the electrical input.

As for Bob Teal, I do not know if he is still alive. If he is, he is 85 years old and probably living in North or South Carolina. I have not tried to contact him.


The idea of efficiency is based on the First Law of Thermodynamics, often referred to as the Law of the Conservation of Energy. This idea is that energy can be converted from one form to another, but it is neither created nor destroyed by its passage through the mechanism. I do not believe in the idea of "Over Unity" because this Law is either correct and in-force at all times, or it is not. So, it is logical that the Law cannot be both correct and in-force, AND violated at the same time. It is well established that the energy conversion rate for the direct induction machine is 746 watts = 1 horse power = 550 foot-pounds per second of mechanical energy.

The magnetic attraction motors that my DVD discusses can be called indirect induction machines, as they use direct induction for the creation of a magnetic field, but it is the magnetic field that causes the mechanical energy production. So, the electricity input is only indirectly related to the production of mechanical energy in the machine. I have postulated that this process, which is NOT the same process as Faraday's induction, operates at a different conversion rate, somewhere around 200 watts = 1 horse power = 550 foot-pounds per second of mechanical energy.

Then, by configuring the machine to operate on short pulses of DC current, an inductor can be charged with electric current. This in turn, causes the creation of a magnetic field. As this magnetic field grows, it can be used to attract a piece of iron, producing mechanical energy. When the field is maximized, the current can be shut off, and the magnetic field will collapse. The collapse of the magnetic field will induce a new current of electricity that can be recaptured by the circuitry, and re-applied to the battery system, thus recovering up to 90% of the input electrical energy. If the machine can produce more than 10% mechanical energy production, then there is an anomaly here which needs a creative explanation.

So, the issue here is, how much mechanical energy can be produced by this process? The answer is, quite a lot, if you design the machine correctly. Way over 10%, in fact. So, when all of these processes are designed right, the machine apparently produces significant amounts of energy that are not explained by the Laws of Conservation.

So, three possibilities exist to explain this. The first is, that the Law of Conservation is just plain wrong, and nothing is being converted into anything else in any of these machines. Most people are not willing to entertain this idea. The second is, that the conversion rate for the indirect induction machine is different than for the direct induction machine, and therefore it can produce more mechanical energy from less electricity because that's what it does. Again, most people find this idea difficult to accept. The third is, that the machine is somehow tapping an unseen source of energy and converting it to the seen energy surplus. Many scientists are starting to consider this idea as the explanation for these phenomena.


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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 03:51:04 AM »
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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2007, 03:56:20 AM »
The motor we see in the video, use 2 magnets in the rotor, what the video show is only the reed switch system?

So the motor can by an ordinary pulse motor "a la" bedini instead of using what he using?

No,
inside the motors of Dr.Lindemann are only iron pieces,
that is why, when the rotor moves there is No counterEMF induced
into the stator driving coils !

So the iron rotor ss only attracted to the coil?s fields but does not
induce any counterEMF voltage into thecoils !
Very clever.

Also you can retrieve most of the Back EMF voltage energy
out of the coils, when the rotor has passed the coil
and the mechanical attraction cycle has ended.

Then when the magnet field collapses, the BackEMF
energy is got out of the motor and can be reused or
a battery can be charged up with it for instance.

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2007, 05:02:27 AM »
Here is  an update page of Dr.Lindemann
which shows, how his motor works:

http://www.free-energy.ws/electric-motor-secrets/attraction-motor.html

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 05:07:38 AM »
Thanks now I understand how the motor work!


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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 11:04:23 AM »
it apears as though the electricity just passes through the motor and comes out the other side.. sort of like wind passing over a turbine, mechanical energy is produced but the wind/air remains mostly in tact.


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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 10:22:02 PM »
Yes,it seems like it is a DC to DC converter,
where we get the mechanical output from the motor for free.

Here is another forum, where the motor is already discussed a lot:


http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/271-electric-motor-secrets.html


Here are a few videos of a replicator on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Jetijs

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 01:43:46 PM »
it apears as though the electricity just passes through the motor and comes out the other side.. sort of like wind passing over a turbine, mechanical energy is produced but the wind/air remains mostly in tact.

It may appear that way, but there are always losses in the coil. What he has depicted there with all the energy being captured in the inductive kickback is misleading. In my tests, I've only seen about 65% recovery.

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 06:13:35 PM »
Has anyone tried to removing the charge battery, replace the power supply with a battery (run battery), and hook the cathode of the diode to the + on the run battery.  Then monitor the battery voltage and see if it really charges?

It would be an easy mod for someone that has one with the two batteries, open a wire and move a wire and would tell the whole story.

Are you saying to try connecting it all up so that the thing charges its own run battery?

If so, that's not practical, and not really possible.

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2007, 06:09:19 PM »
Not practical I should imagine because a battery can either be charging or discharging, not doing both at once (not effectively anyway)?  Surely it would be better to run from one while charging another and then have an automated circuit with relays to swap them around?


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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2007, 06:24:53 PM »
Why would it not be possible?  The circuit (reed relay) is open when the BEMF fires, the transistor will not conduct, the diode would direct the pulse to the + terminal (and it is all grounded)?  I will look at the drawing I did and check the current paths, but at a glance it looked good yesterday.  I have no motor, so I can not play with it anyway.

Far as practical.  An electric motor that run forever (until a part failure) would be slick.

Examine Lindemann's diagram and you'll see that the charge battery is in reverse polarity to the run battery. Why? Because the inductive kickback is of reverse polarity to the run battery. That's why it is not possible, unless you quickly reverse the leads of the run battery during the inductive kickback, and this makes it impractical.

Bedini himself realized later on that it is far more viable to use a separate charge battery. Prior to this, he was using full wave rectifier bridges in an attempt to charge the run battery (i.e charge itself), but if one does an analysis on this, they'll see there is a problem with this approach. Follow the current paths.

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2007, 03:52:30 AM »
if its not possible to charge the run battery, as stefan mentioned in the first post..do you thing it could be hooked up to a generator to power itself?, if this is a possibility i may have a go at building one.

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2007, 04:23:15 AM »
Why couldn't there be several coils used so that one kick back powers the next and so on making it self powered. Once it was made self powered couldn't the out put shafts be used to generate power?

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Re: Dr. Lindemann?s Electric Motor Secrets DVD
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2008, 10:45:53 PM »
I can't wait to see when the motor is running a generator that is providing energy to the motor - via rectifier and capacitors. Should be easy as h..., as the inventor claims the battery to be charged.

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