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Author Topic: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998  (Read 16954 times)

Offline innovation_station

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2007, 03:23:32 PM »
 :) ;) 8)



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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2007, 04:32:39 PM »
I even gave you some easy to obtain references to this phenomenon in a
few technical journals
"little mystery what are these journals?"


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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2007, 05:58:19 PM »
 :P

« Last Edit: December 09, 2007, 03:34:51 PM by zapnic »

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2007, 09:03:16 PM »
Way to go Grumpy!  Well said!  Thumbs up!  :)  ;)

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Bunch of damn rocket scientist around here.  This used to be a nice bar where a guy could shot the shite and enjoy some suds.  Now we have gravitational vortex blackholes and crap like that.

What  the hell does a black hole have to with SM's comments about the littel bit of extra energy you get when electrons first start to flow?  Hmm?  Not a damn thing.

What does Schumann resonances have to do with the TPU? It's a analogy.  Schumann resonances are relatd to teh diameter of the earth and the TPU collector has a resonance related to it's diameter.  Any idea what sort of potential it takes to resonate with the earth?  No one here is going to make it thats for damn sure.  SM stated that the energy came from within the device - not gravitational vortices and crap like that.

What about SM's comments about Tao having the secret when he spoke of capacitors discharged into the control wires?  What no time shift?  No anti-gravity? Ah shucks!

What about SM's comments on electrons faster than the speed of light?  Ever seen Eric Dollards tables on superluminal wave velocity in Tesla Transformers?  What? No UFO?  Damn, and I was so close...

While I'm at it, you can make a magnetic field with out changing electrical energy and without moving a conductor or magnet.  None of you know that because you are stuck in the damn Matrix.

As for the TPU being "old technology" or "obsolete" or "dangerous" - give me a damn break!  Farting next to a fire is "dangerous".  Damn IPod is "obsolete" and computers are "old technology".

Furthermore, SM has already told you haw the damn thing works - twenty different times and ten different ways - and off we go slamming crap together, burning shit up, and making up physics laws that should never exist outside of a damn cartoon.

Does anyone remember the small little comment SM made about the lengths of the controls and collectors being important?  If not then you are too damn busy recreating the damn universe!

If something runs with gain, you do not need several damn amps pumping into it.

What about when SM connects a load to that one TPU and the voltage drops from like 600 to 150 or something lke that - what the hell does that tell you?  TPU has a load limit. Well, no shit...  - Ever heard of damping?  Overdamping?  See something interesting there?  Overdamp with too great a resistive load and the voltage goes way down...

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EDIT:  notice somthing odd about that rotating magnetic field in the TPU when it first starts up?  SM they found that the drection was opposite in the southern hemisphere - not that it had to be opposite - that is was.  This is a secondary effect.  What about the statement that the compass spins and then just stops and when it stops the unit is at about it's max.  What sort of change to a wave would cause the compass to stand still?



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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2007, 04:05:58 AM »
I even gave you some easy to obtain references to this phenomenon in a
few technical journals
"little mystery what are these journals?"


Got those  references handy?

YES

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2007, 05:54:00 AM »
I even gave you some easy to obtain references to this phenomenon in a
few technical journals
"little mystery what are these journals?"


Got those  references handy?

YES

Then what are they?  I'd like to check them out.

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2007, 02:19:27 PM »
I even gave you some easy to obtain references to this phenomenon in a
few technical journals
"little mystery what are these journals?"


Got those  references handy?

YES

Then what are they?  I'd like to check them out.


What is public is public, what is private is private. I can give you only public references. I won?t provide any pictures or drawings. The time has gone for it. Search the web for ?moving electron mass by potential?. It does take a very careful reading and going into a math a little. It took me about 30 articles to go through before I could understand a lot of things for myself. Otherwise, it would be very difficult to understand what can possibly change the electron potential and how to do that in practice and a lot of things described by SM. What I have found resulted in forgetting all my old tpus and building a new one that looks like the very first open tpu in the SM?s video.

Kames.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2007, 02:44:11 PM by kames »

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2007, 04:16:36 PM »
yup..
« Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 04:33:23 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2007, 06:38:38 PM »
Here is a few Ideas I am going to try over xmas vacation. The idea is to use a blocking type oscillator and use a torrid coil for the oscillator. The feedback loop is to locate the torrid close to the flux field so the oscillator is influenced by the collectors. The output of the collectors can be (I will try this also) connected to a capacitor for charge storage and to create an LC network. The capacitor value, I think, should be selected to tune the collector circuit to oscillate at a harmonic of the primary oscillator (kicks anyone?). The magnet is used to couple the coils provide some magnification and perpetuate the oscillations since the Blocking Oscillator would not have a feedback coil wound on the torrid but get its feedback signal from the flux field which is amplified/coupled by the magnets field.

The coils I think should be wound non-symetrical, i.e. oval shaped (SM's design shows this for his TPU's)

I got this idea from the leedskin designs and the open frame TPU. All of SM's TPU's have a small Torrid which might be part of the oscillators tank.

As for the oscillators operating frequency, maybe one of the frequencies mentioned by SM or maybe the NMR of the coils material.

This should be simple enough to put together and test this theory of mine.

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2007, 06:38:38 PM »
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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2007, 06:46:05 PM »


EDIT:  notice somthing odd about that rotating magnetic field in the TPU when it first starts up?  SM they found that the drection was opposite in the southern hemisphere - not that it had to be opposite - that is was.  This is a secondary effect.  What about the statement that the compass spins and then just stops and when it stops the unit is at about it's max.  What sort of change to a wave would cause the compass to stand still?



Hi Grumpy,

Is this an actual phrase from SM or did you reword it? The only bit i know about is where SM commented that in the southern hemisphere it works in reverse. Not mentioning WHAT exactly works in reverse....
If SM did actually say it like in the phrase then the RMF is indeed a secondary effect....

regards

Robert

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2007, 06:47:08 PM »
My proposed ideas above are very simplistic and very inexpensive. The coils size would be/could be rather small. The counter wound collectors provide flux cancellation and several of these can be built and interconnected in series or parallel to increase voltage or current output.

The rotating filed is probably produced by a standing wave being set up by the sending coil and ceases once the oscillator reaches resonance

I see similarities to Dr Stifflers circuits as well. Comments are welcomed and encouraged to the above.

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2007, 08:19:54 PM »
so you have wire and magnet
take  wire and make spiral"like Tesla turbine"flat coil?
or make the "Smith coil"?
and swing magnet see what happens ???

maybe wrong maybe right
let see
« Last Edit: December 09, 2007, 11:14:15 PM by zapnic »

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2007, 01:01:37 AM »
yup...
« Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 04:34:18 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2007, 02:47:43 AM »
@Grumpy
   
      The only way to rotate a magnetic field is to put the magnets or temporary magnets on an armature and spin them.  Magnetic lines of force are just that: lines of force.  In an electric motor they talk about rotating magnetic fields,  but they are just pulsating magnetic fields that look like a rotating magnetic field to the observer (rotor in an induction motor).  I believe that magnetism is concentration of vectored flowing energy (black energy anti-photons whatever you want to call this sea of flowing energy we're being in)  SM was talking about a rotating magnetic field because as his tpu ramped up it was pulsating in current strength along his ringed collector windings.  I think SM was getting paid to develop a new kind of magnetless speaker and moonlighted the krap out of  RCA on the TPU he discovered inadvertantly. Rotating magnetic field my ass.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2007, 03:48:04 AM by sparks »

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Re: Reasons for not building a TPU like the one Steven Mark's had in 1998
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2007, 04:38:41 AM »
Thanks much to my friends that pulled my arse off the "Matrix Tit".

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Well, good luck with your approach  ;)

As for imagination and designing - there are two years worth of that on this forum - megabytes worth.

If you build from the "mind" - you already have the design - damn that almost rhymes - could be a catchy slogan or motto - got to write that down...
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