Hi Otto,

....Look at the distances between the collectors and at the distances between each collector and control coil.

I looked again at 3stack.jpg in
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3660.msg62585.html#msg62585

I would not have noticed, but you are right:
The distance (a) between the lowest collector and the middle collector is smaller than the distance (b) between the middle collector and the top collector.
golden rule i.e. phi !?
a/b = 1/0.618 !?

And the lowest control winding (black) is wound tighter than the middle one (blue). And the red CC-winding is wound loosest.

Hello Otto, All,

Here is a chunk of text I wrote earlier, but since noone has answered Otto's question to his satisfaction, I thought I'd throw this out here:

I have a theory on the 15" TPU--I've actually had most of it kicking around my head for quite a while, but the final piece snapped into place yesterday night based on Otto's coil setup:

What Otto has done is, in effect, given each primary coil a different wave propogation velocity.  That is the key!  If one has three different propogation velocities, then one can launch a pulse down the slowest coil first, let it get maybe halfway, then launch another pulse down the medium-speed coil, and finally a pulse down the fastest coil.  Now what will happen, if everything was timed right, is that the medium-speed pulse will catch up to the low-speed pulse just as they get to the end of the primaries.  The fastest pulse would also catch up at the same instant, and you would have the superposition of all three magnetic and electric fields at that instant at the end of the collector wire.  This fits perfectly with so many of SM's words; I had been thinking about this very mechanism for quite some time, but had not figured out a way to velocity-inhibit some of the primary coils.  Otto's idea is sheer genius!

Now what SM has probably done is set up three separate segments around the collector, each wired in exactly the same way as described, at 0, 120, and 240 degrees.  Now what he does is fire one (feed in the pulse sequences described above), and at the exact instant that the fields superimpose he fires the adjacent segment.  This causes the bubble of electrons that was assembled from the first control segment firing to "ride the wave" of the second control segment's firing, and so on until the output is reached.  This may cause all sorts of vibration and interesting inertial effects, BTW!

This does not explain the operational principle of the first open TPUs, but those may not have worked very well, or may have hidden windings to allow this principle to work.

Now for SM's words to justify this theory:
First of all, frequencies probably do not mean sine waves, and may actually mean differently-phased pulsed signals.

The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil

If the pulses are not phased (timed) correctly, the above scenario will not happen.

By the way, have you seen the video of the compass turning violently in the center of the unit while in operation? Notice that when I first turn the unit on that the compass starts to spin very slowly. it speeds up faster and faster until it just stops. When it stops the unit is always operating at about it's design maximum.

The control unit may fire the control coils in sequence slowly, building up more and more energy so that it can fire them faster and faster.  The compass would stop as the DC current flowing throught the collectors generates a powerful vertical magnetic field that acts to jam the compass (trust me, those things are extremely sensitive to vertical magnetic fields!)

You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose. Picture a hose with water in it. If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving. You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water along as well. And you could do both to control the movement of the water more precisely. You can think of the movement of water as the movement of electrons through the collector coils.

Self explanatory

I couldn't find SM's words on 245KHz and 35KHz, but I do remember the gist of them.
Say we put sharp, narrow pulses at a rate of 35KHz into the slowest winding.  If you look at the way that the coils are wound, the slowest winding's length is related to the fastest winding's length by a ratio of 7:1.  Sound familiar?  By extension, the middle speed winding's length is related to the fastest winding's length by a ratio of 5:1, so we should pump 175KHz into the middle winding.  Jiggle the phases around a bit to make the pulses "combine at the output into one big kick" (SMs words from memory) and it should work!

Sorry I don't have any graphics to go with this right now.

Let me know what you think!  Feel free to poke holes in it, just do so gently, please.

Eldarion

look's good

Based upon my experiences I understand it this way:

The compass stops because once vertical dielectric current flows at
the maximum rate there is no magnetic field in the center.

Propagation velocity changes with different surroundings for a
conductor. Just bury your coax for the transmitter and see what it
does to transmission line performance. I think there was mention of
undersea cables, also. I'll never forget those delays.
Now run current through a shield or winding surrounding a conductor.
You increase or decrease the delay. I don't know if it can be used to
speed things above a 'conductor carrying current' with no external
influence.


The three layered TPU graphic shows four levels of velocity factor
influence over the bottom collector. Three only if you figure there is
at least one control coil fired at all times.
The middle layer then would have two and the top one...


So, yes. I would agree with waves riding the backs of others and
arrival times being different even though the lengths are the same.


Just my two cents...

Yeah...

"..The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils. Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together...."     

Since control wires are wound, whenever we wind a wire round and round, it's what we would call a coil

I'm not sure why we are debating little things again.   We know the geometry pretty much we are looking for the frequencies now.   But you need to know the composition of the wires.   Horizontal wire is IRON, or some other magnetostricitve (and also magnetic) material.    IT NEEDS TO VIBRATE.

So why does it need to vibrate, just for the fun of it?     

So it can cut through the EARTH MAGNETIC FIELD, and move ELECTRONS IN A WIRE,  "...THAT WAS USABLE ENERGY..."

EM

 I am new but I think I was able to figure out how it works and where the energy comes from. I believe frequencies are the energy source and the magnetic field is the collector and the pulsing of the frequencies in the magnetic field is what is used to move the electrons in the wiring. I did find out that different frequencies require different wire or materials to get the best results. I did post these things in "Sparks New TPU Design" thread but the following is what I posted in that thread.


     Re: Sparks' New TPU Design
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Here is some interesting information if not known already. I can see how this concept could possibly be modified to produce usable energy.

http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/java/fticr/index.html

 This information added with the information in the High Permeability Wires - 1936 Article thread,

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3747.0/topicseen.html

 makes me believe this could possibly work. 



     Re: Sparks' New TPU Design
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Here is some more information that may help.

Because lightning strikes are pulses, they contain many different frequencies and because the Earth is a resonator it takes these harmonic-containing spikes and filters them into multiples of the Earth's resonant frequency. Therefore, frequencies of 7.8Hz, 15.6Hz, 23.4Hz etc. are all supported by the Earth's resonator.

http://www.angelsuniverse.com/schumannresonance.htm 
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 I think that if anyone is attempting to build this, they should read those articles in the links I provided. The same should go for those attempting to build a solid state design. I am also starting to think that a electron is nothing more then a pulse of frequency in it?s own magnetic field. I am also starting to think that the earth is a positive and the atmosphere is the negative.  Let me also add this idiotic theory, everything evolved from the compression of frequencies.

 Maybe I am just insane in the membrane. LOL

I just found this video using TPU as a search and clicked on the most recent and found this next video link. It looks as if I maybe right but I can't say how they built theirs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsZ0EC2VeJw