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Offline CLaNZeR

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2007, 05:00:30 PM »
Mounted on board and a small movie showing the movement.

Got a little play in the magnet stacks as you can see in the video has they are slanting a little. I might go mill some end caps out for them, to keep them squarer.

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http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRS-2-Motors-Layout.wmv


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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2007, 05:19:28 PM »
Right your shout on this one Gaby so:

What distance should I place the two motors/magnets apart from each other, at the moment they are pretty close and fair bit of pressure to turn it by hand. Should they be further apart and hence turn easy?

Tried a piece of steel between them and at the distance they are it just ignores the steel. If I place a big bit of steel sheeting in there it does what expected as video below:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRS-2-Motors-shielding.wmv


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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2007, 06:20:55 PM »
Another quick one.

Have made the end caps for the magnet blocks and press fitted in a vice to get them nice and square, now solid as a rock now :)

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2007, 08:16:49 PM »
When I have a lot of pages open overunity wouldn't load and I get some problem with one of the advert servers. I've closed everything now. Sorry it took me so long.

Right your shout on this one Gaby so:

What distance should I place the two motors/magnets apart from each other, at the moment they are pretty close and fair bit of pressure to turn it by hand. Should they be further apart and hence turn easy?

The right distance depends on the strength of the magnets and the flux capacitance of the shield. I have no idea how fast it can be made to work. I always keep the testatica device in mind, that was suppose to run very slowly.

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Tried a piece of steel between them and at the distance they are it just ignores the steel. If I place a big bit of steel sheeting in there it does what expected as video below:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRS-2-Motors-shielding.wmv


Nice,
it's hard to see how much closer the shield sits to the primary side. It's the difference in flux that generates the effect.  The primary should induct flux into the shield while the secondary side does not.

It would be ideal to have a contraption where you can change the distances easy.

I think you should be able to feel and examine the effect using your hands. If anything will help getting it right that will be it.

I wish I could be of more assistance.

Maybe some related thoughts would be useful. Have a look at this idea.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-drawing
gabydewilde - magnetmotor drawing

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-theory
gabydewilde - magnetmotor theory

It's basically the same thing under an angle. This invention requires very exact speed control. The primary magnet would ideally be on an arm but I bet it will be interesting to try it using the shielding.

This doesn't have much to do with it but here is another idea
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1568.msg61642.html#msg61642

I'm also working at a SMOT and a magnetic pendulum design.

I'm sure you would want to build all of it  :D If cost is a problem let us hear ok?

anyway, keep up the good work :-)

« Last Edit: November 28, 2007, 03:01:48 AM by gaby de wilde »

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2007, 02:25:08 AM »
thinking of eddy currents etc I was just playing with adding the shield to the side of the magnet. This seems to give the same effect :)

Here is the theory:

The primary side only offers a north pole OR a south pole Or nothing at all. The secondary side offers both it's north and it's south pole Or just one of the 2. It means the primary side can only push or pull. But the secondary is pushing AND pulling at the same time. But like I said the primary can only push or pull! That means that if the secondary is doing 2 things those 2 things will need to translate back into one thing. Their sum is either a push or a pull. Adding up positive and negative numbers doesn't give us a higher figure :-) hahaha!!!

If this is true physicists will have to hide behind the sofa till the end of time? I have already begun making fun of them. But it turned out to be quite a good description so excuse my bad language.

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/joe-goat-horse.pdf

I think it's a fun read. :-)
« Last Edit: November 28, 2007, 04:59:00 PM by gaby de wilde »

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2007, 04:10:09 PM »
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The steel is a better guider of magnetism than the air and that is why the magnetic flux chooses to travel through the steel and you are cutting the field short!
http://www.fdp.nu/perendev/

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2007, 04:15:51 PM »
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There is no known material that blocks magnetic fields without itself being attracted to the magnetic force. Magnetic fields can only be redirected, not created or removed. To do this, high-permeability shielding alloys are used. The magnetic field lines are strongly attracted into the shielding material.
http://www.magnetic-shield.com/faq/index.html

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2007, 09:57:31 PM »
Sorry for the delay on this one Gaby, I will get back to it.

Been tied up making a Pyramid LOL

http://trawoeger-pyramide.info/mirror/index.php/board,16.0.html

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2007, 03:28:59 AM »
Hi All,
Hi Gaby, nice documentation work and great videos Clanzer.
maybe it would be easier to see any OU effect,
if you place  the wobbling left magnet into an aircore coil
like in a unit like this :
http://www.freelights.co.uk/

and then use a weight going down in the earth gravity field  with a string
to propell a flywheel for the right driving magnet.

This way you know via Energy= mass x heightdifference x g
how much energy you have been putting into the driving magnet
and then charge up from the wobbling left magnet a capacitor via
rectifier bridge and measure the voltage at it and
compare the energy from it via Cap Energy= 0.5 x C x Voltage^2

Now will this cap energy be higher than the used potential energy
to propell the flywheel up to speed and turning the driving magnet ?

I think this setup depends again very much to the exact dimension
of the shield and the magnets, so it must be very precise to get any OU out of
it like the SMOT. Very hard to build and it depends much on the used shield material..

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2007, 03:28:59 AM »
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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2007, 05:17:17 AM »
@all,

can you get it?  first maybe the question should be, if you stopped the movement of the stator and the rotor on any magnetic rotor with physical force could you use it like a hammer on a lever? 

my idea is to take the momentum of all the magnets, and the wheel, that is accelerating during the first part of the 345 degrees, of the 360 degrees, and smack a lever to get it past the sticky point?  it sure seems possible by newtonian physics, which can also be studied right here.

watch the monkey go way high when the guy jumps off the tower to the lever at the circus.

lol
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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2007, 05:33:26 AM »
@all,

now lets put the monkey on the end of a string at the end of the lever, on the tetter todder.  watch out we might have a gravity wheel?

lol
sam

ps:  use the whip action for acceleration of a smaller mass!!!

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2007, 10:20:39 PM »
(Just looking at the title, my immediate thought was, yes, of course you can switch of a PM, by heating it past its Curie point, using (dish or Fresnel lens) concentrated solar. Let it cool down and it's on again.)

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2008, 08:28:13 AM »
gaby, can you show an actual experiment doing this?

I will  ;D

I knew the Kiss Rig would come in handy again  ;)

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/twomags.jpg)

12 different metal strips tested:

Soft Aluminium
Brass
Copper
Mild Steel
Magnetic Stainless Steel
NON Magnetic Stainless Steel
Galvanised Steel
Hard Aluminium
Phosphor Bronze
Nickel Silver
Zinc Plated Mild Steel
Zinc

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/metals.jpg)


Movie showing all 12 metals being tested.

http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeR-doing-Gabys-PM-switch-test.wmv

Cheers

Sean.


Gaby

What  you are  doing  reminds me of the gary effect

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/gary.htm

http://www.centuryinter.net/tjs11/church/gary.htm


gary  describes   a null  zone  in between   the magnets ..........  Howard  Johnson   described and mapped   the same kind of null  zone in his  book   The Secret World of Magnets    http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ma.htm


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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2008, 01:29:47 PM »

Gaby

What  you are  doing  reminds me of the gary effect

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/gary.htm

http://www.centuryinter.net/tjs11/church/gary.htm


gary  describes   a null  zone  in between   the magnets ..........  Howard  Johnson   described and mapped   the same kind of null  zone in his  book   The Secret World of Magnets    http://www.cheniere.org/sales/buy-ma.htm


gary 

Yes, this is related. I suggest putting the shield out of the center so that it favors to adopts the flux from that side. :-)

@clanser
I was doing other stuff. lol But we've created a good end product.

Peeps can work at this now :-)

I'm sure it can be made to work, I kinda doubt if it has much potential tho.

I'm looking into a hundred other things.

Here is one :-)
http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/negative-drag
gabydewilde - negative drag

Going to look at your pyramid now...

 

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