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« on: November 24, 2007, 06:42:21 PM »
(http://magnetmotor.googlepages.com/counter-rotating-fields.gif)

Left is a primary axle with a magnet on top. Right is a secondary axle with a magnet on top. If there was no shield the secondary magnet would rotate along with the primary 1:1 With the shielding placed as illustrated (close to the domain wall a bit towards the primary side) the secondary magnet is is disconnected from the primary 2 times per rotation.

While the primary is facing the shield with both it's north and it's south pole (it's side) there isn't any flux propagated beyond it. Here the secondary axle stops and waits for the primary to move beyond this point. The moment the primary has moved beyond 50/50 induction the secondary will leap over the gap and catch up. The catching up power comes out of the magnet.

I can leave the primary in any position and it will just stay there. It's merely pulling the secondary into it's mirrored position when facing the shield. Should not be hard to test.  Just remember to place the conductor closer to the primary magnet.

I would like to get some feedback on this.

Conservation of energy talks should be addressed here  ;)

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swhich permanent magnet on and off
« on: November 24, 2007, 06:42:21 PM »

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2007, 06:46:41 PM »
gaby, can you show an actual experiment doing this?

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2007, 08:08:30 PM »
gaby, can you show an actual experiment doing this?

I will  ;D

I knew the Kiss Rig would come in handy again  ;)

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/twomags.jpg)

12 different metal strips tested:

Soft Aluminium
Brass
Copper
Mild Steel
Magnetic Stainless Steel
NON Magnetic Stainless Steel
Galvanised Steel
Hard Aluminium
Phosphor Bronze
Nickel Silver
Zinc Plated Mild Steel
Zinc

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Movie showing all 12 metals being tested.

http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeR-doing-Gabys-PM-switch-test.wmv

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2007, 08:48:31 PM »
Thanks a lot, Sean, that was really interesting (and entertaining too--I liked the song). Do you have by any chance a piece of mumetal (Permalloy) to try this. Very efficient mumetal (the most efficient I've seen so far) is the part inside a hard drive with the neo(s) attached to it. Maybe you have an old hard drive lying around that can be sacrificed in the name of science?

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2007, 08:54:15 PM »
Thanks a lot, Sean, that was really interesting (and entertaining too--I liked the song). Do you have by any chance a piece of mumetal (Permalloy) to try this. Very efficient mumetal (the most efficient I've seen so far) is the part inside a hard drive with the neo(s) attached to it. Maybe you have an old hard drive lying around that can be sacrificed in the name of science?

Silly question, I have stripped down so many Hard drives I have lost count. Will have a go at chipping a magnet off the Mu-Metal.

Also got some Meta-Glas that I can try http://www.blockemf.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=757&products_id=5114

Will get back with results.

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2007, 09:11:55 PM »
I'm so curious but for some misterious reason the download is taking forever. It's at 88% now. I'm over exited lol .... 92%.... 94%..... ahhhh hahaha .......
*waits more*

wow, what was one amazing demonstration.

Normal iron worked the best right? You clearly see it leap there.  ;)

I'm not sure if you placed the shield closer to the primary side.

Also got some Meta-Glas that I can try.
The trick is for the strip to conduct the flux from north to south of the magnet. There are 4 poles and they switch pairs.

The picture below shows how a flat magnet comes closer to the shield while a square one doesn't.

Do you feel a lot of resistance spinning the primary passed the shield?

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2007, 09:24:56 PM »
wow, what was one amazing demonstration.

Normal iron worked the best right? You clearly see it leap there.  ;)

I'm not sure if you placed the shield closer to the primary side.

The picture below shows how a flat magnet comes closer to the shield while a square one doesn't.

Do you feel a lot of resistance spinning the primary passed the shield?

Hi Gaby

I would say the Galvanised Steel worked good, as did the Zinc. But the Mu-Metal even though a funny shape had the best shielding.

You can feel the resistance difference Alot, must admit.

I made each plate as center as I could get it and would not say it was closer to either side. Must be the shaky camera angle LOL

I have only small cube magnets here, but if I have time tomorrow I may try and get a new rig setup too test with them.

Think it proves your theory is correct though and well done :)

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2007, 09:37:50 PM »
lol I modified my post but my internet has taken half a day off so you wrote 2 in the same time.

The shielding should shield by conducting the flux rather then blocking it, like the core of a coil it should be highly ferromagnetic.

It should be placed closer to the primary side so that it will prefer taking on the field inducted from that side. 

I cant think of any other complaints right not. lol

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2007, 09:49:52 PM »
Rather then placing the shielding on the domain wall the way wesley gary[1] did. The shield is placed out of the center so that it extends one of the 2 fields (see image)

[1] - http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/wesley-gary

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2007, 09:54:56 PM »
Here is a drawing to illustrate why the shield is not placed in the center. :)

Will have a go with some small square Neo's tomorrow mate for you.
But I think you have proved your point and the saturation of the shield does stop the reaction on the opposite magnet.

Now show us how this could be used to get that free energy!!!

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2007, 10:02:52 PM »
Now show us how this could be used to get that free energy!!!

You stick a big magnet on a small electromotor, place the shield next to it big generator at the other side..... I will draw...I will draw.... lol

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2007, 11:30:45 PM »
Thanks Sean. What is obvious from the videos is that with some of the materials between the magnets the two magnets are not reciprocating. However, that still isn?t a proof that more energy is obtained from the left-hand magnet than the energy put in the right-hand one. For instance, in the excerpt I?ve posted here it is seen that the left-hand side magnet responds as expected up to frame 27. After frame 27 until frame 45 the left-hand side magnet isn?t responding at all to about 1/3 of a full rotation made by the right-hand side magnet. How do we know that to make that 1/3 of a full rotation there was no need to input more energy than the energy necessary to make the previous 1/3 of a full rotation of the right-hand side magnet? It can easily be speculated that because of the changed conditions (due to the specific material placed between the magnets) we were ?winding up?, pumping up that additional energy which made the left-hand side magnet to spin like crazy from frame 48 on up until frame 66.

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2007, 11:49:45 PM »
Sorry, won't allow me to upload the excerpt but I think my point is clear anyway.

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Re: swhich permanent magnet on and off
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2007, 02:12:12 AM »
What is obvious from the videos is that with some of the materials between the magnets the two magnets are not reciprocating.

However, that still isn?t a proof

hey hey, I'm not the proof fairy. :P It's your job to make something workable out of it :) I will however try what ever I can do to buy you a ticket on the train of thought. Viewing a video doesn't mean you understand the effect. Not even doing the experiment gives an exact picture. I made this assumption, I tried it and it would be dishonest to say it didn't work exactly the way I expected.

All I did was stick a magnet on an axle and hold another one next to it and use the other hand to place the shield.

Because the side of a square magnet attracts just as much as the face - we may position the primary the way we like You can see in the video the primary doesn't want to spin backwards or anything, it wants to move towards the shield but it's attached to an axle so it's not going any place.

Now show us how this could be used to get that free energy!!!

You stick a big magnet on a small electromotor, place the shield next to it big generator at the other side.  I attached an image of the electrical setup we should work towards. Can make it as big as you like.  As long as it keeps spinning a big chunk of the load should just disappear in the coupling.  (At least that's what I expect to happen.)

I've also remixed your video :-)

Have to upload it some place... 1 moment

 

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