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Author Topic: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design  (Read 13419 times)

Offline Imgoingnuts

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Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« on: November 23, 2007, 02:06:11 PM »
Any chance of it working?

Offline Imgoingnuts

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2007, 02:07:54 PM »
AND YES! I know nothing is to scale....... and not in exact positioning.... sorry. It's just an idea.   =)

Offline utilitarian

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2007, 11:25:38 PM »
OMG you have done it.  Free energy, here we come.

Offline mapsrg

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2007, 01:55:05 AM »
I had similar ideas but gears create too much friction and are complicated

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2007, 12:00:13 PM »
I was thinking about the complications of the gear designs..... would it really be that hard? I am going to be starting a prototype before spring (i'm moving soon... house with small workshop attached    ... finally)  Any who. I'll keep posting as i go in hopes that it may tickle someones fancy or spark an imagination or, universe willing, something incredible happens.

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2007, 12:11:24 PM »
This would be the outer containment and stationary inner hub track design for those gears.

Offline Imgoingnuts

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2007, 12:23:52 PM »
Could someone tell me how fast the outer edge of the containment gear would be...

IF.  the motive gears were traveling at a speed of 1 revolution per second.
AND.   the central hub and the motive gears are 24 inches in diameter.
AND.   the outer containment is 4 inches wide

Please post your complete calculations for us all.
thanx.

Scott MacKay

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2007, 12:41:08 AM »
Any responses at all would seriously be appreciated.

Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2007, 01:01:11 AM »
Looking at your diagram, I can't see any movement. But if you do have movement I see a balance and lack of movement due to friction. My apprentice came up with something like this but he learned that it just won't work. I have done many wheels now and have learned allot, and after you build a few you will learn as well that it isn't easy.

Offline Imgoingnuts

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2007, 01:02:53 AM »
Please... if this design has been tried by someone else I would really like to know. I have searched and searched and I cannot find anything close to it. Better yet if you can prove to me it does not work that would be great too... it would save me the time and expense of building it. On the other hand if this design has any Merritt at all any support would be greatly appreciated.
thnx.

Scott MacKay

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2007, 01:20:47 AM »
Of course you don't SEE any movement... it's a 2 dimensional drawing.... It has been commented 2wice now about to much friction. The whole design floats the six motive gears in the containment gear. All points of contact are equal all the way around... in every position. There would be No binding and very little actual friction. With 360 teeth on each motive gear and the hub... the teeth would have virtually no 'slop' or play to them at all. As for the side to side friction.....Teflon is an amazing thing. Still no good? I WILL FIGURE IT OUT. By myself if i have to. Telling me that it wont work with disclosing the vaguest of details is only going to make me believe that i do have something.

Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2007, 04:53:46 AM »
Please! by all means, build it. You will learn from it, very well. This just seams to be a similar one to several others that have been built that don't work, it looks to balanced out so there just isn't any primary movers that I can see. As to the 2D that isn't a problem to me for I view and change in my minds eye as if it where moving and I saw stagnation. I am a blacksmith/armourer by trade and sculpt in steel with hammers and I have to be able to see what my metal will do. But this will not replace experience, I my self, build some test wheels just to test an action to see if what I think is working before building a wheel that might work.

Good luck.

Offline gaby de wilde

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2007, 05:44:25 AM »
nice drawing. I can relate the colors to the mindset. :-) What I remember is that this device is 20 times more efficient as a jet engine but I cant remember who the inventor was. hehehe

You should search under "inertial propulsion", "inertial thruster", "reactionless drive" Getting linear propulsion out of rotation and getting rotation out of gravity is much alike. (David Hamel and John Searl build flying generators by accident.)

trying to find the name of this man.... ......ah found it. Brandson R. Thornson

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7426258106071720512
Thornson Inertial Engine

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/TIE.htm
The Thornson Inertila Engine experiment by JL Naudin

But his plan was to make trust, this is of course not entirely the same as yours. I love gravity engines, I cant wait for you to figure it out. I'm on the tip of the armchair. :)

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drawings are also an end result in their own kind of way.

Offline georgemay

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2007, 06:48:16 AM »
Well, I do not want to be the ONE who spoil the fun but to me this wheel will spin backward at this position.  Look at the yellow wheel at 9:00 do you think that it will actually help in movement? Will it climb up?  If you agree with me that it will not.  Then you have two positive wheels on the right side against four wheels on the left :)
George

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Re: Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2007, 07:26:58 AM »
You have a vision..you have a mission...people at this site can help...like many here I have a project that I am pushing but also history and experience.My first free energy gravity wheel was not easily let go of....but it developed further .Friction is a major factor in any mechanical device.