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Honk

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Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« on: November 19, 2007, 08:23:37 AM »
Just wondering?

dean_mcgowan

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2007, 08:57:17 AM »
As a door nail !!!

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 09:20:12 AM »
They will be back, when they need more money, with another "Stunning Revelation".  You can bet your boots on it. Perhaps under a different name, but who knows?

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2007, 09:26:42 AM »
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FE Truth: As ever, you?ve been extremely busy. What sort of stuff have you been working on in the last few months? Anything that you can tell us about?

Sean: We continue to work on Orbo. Obviously we are looking at different implementations of it, more reliable implementations of it both mechanical and non mechanical. We?re also looking at the material science behind these time variant magnetic transactions as in what?s the real driver for them. What makes one material have a different response from another material? We?ve looked at a lot of third party research, fund some research and obviously do our own research into this area, we have managed to rule out most of the drivers to time based domain response (eddy currents, heat and so on) but as to why ferrite has a different response to Iron ? well more work to be done.

FE Truth: Previously you mentioned that a second demo will occur and that it would not
be announced, it would just "happen" when you?ve got it up and running. Are you at liberty to announce which country or city the demo will be located ?

Sean: It will most likely be in Dublin, Ireland.

FE Truth: Assuming the jury of 22 scientists returns a positive result on Orbo?s ability to create / extract free energy, do you think the scientific community will accept the jury verdict and embrace the new discovery or do you expect there will still be yet another fight for acceptance? What do you anticipate will be the reaction?

Sean: I don?t think there will be a defining moment to be honest. I don?t feel that any form of validation, be it public demo or validation by a third parties, will be seen as a full stop to the process. I think it will certainly raise awareness and more people will research it but there?s not going to be a defining moment in terms of accepting something so fundamental. All we can hope is that the scientific community will engage further and further into this once they have a credible frame of reference.

source: http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com



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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2007, 03:31:56 PM »
Steorn is not dead, they just learnt a lesson, and now they're gathering momentum to cause the paradigm shift.

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2008, 02:59:02 PM »
Hello Everyone.

I'm new to this forum but had been following Steorn's progress via their website and other forums.

What surprises me is the manner in which things suddenly started to falter, despite so much "head-on" publicity and an air of overwhelming confidence exhibited by the inventors. I find it somewhat difficult to accept the coincidental failures "on the day", brought about by the heat of display lights so that camera's were able to adequately photograph and record the device in operation?! Irrespective of the design or the merits of the invention, something just doesn't seem right to me.

As both someone with professional roots in both business and conventional science, but forever an open mind so as not to be potentially blinded by it, I can't help but wonder whether they possibly had something real which, given the face-on publicity and attentions of the scientific community, would have unquestionably attracted threats from oil barons, government representatives, and the like. By the same token, you can bet your bottom dollar that they have people trawling forums such as these, so my advice to OU experimenters and inventors with apparent success would be to exercise caution.

To be realistic, it's a dog-eat-dog world with a global economy fundamentally based on fuel consumption. The de-stabilising effect of such a proven device would be catastrophic on the world economy - and notably those that have benefited by it and continue to exhibit hypocrisy, selfish greed and ignorance for the sake of personal gain. For those such as myself who dabble in stocks and shares, they would understand the effects of such an announcement could so easily have a significant damaging effect on the stock markets - particulary with something tangible and demonstrable. Nevertheless, fossil fuel is a finite resource, along with pollution and de-forestation, so something had better change and pretty soon. It's bound to be a bumpy ride - particularly with the pressures, threats and criticisms that any such invention is bound to attract.

The Steorn device was based on magetic force and electromagnetic influence to induce motion, though a magnetic field is itself arguably a moving mass. In nature perpetuity appears to exist, so it's more a case of harnessing it to good effect. As impossible as it may sound to the blind sceptic, the limit of man's knowledge (and desire to make everything fit conventional wisdom) would suggest plenty of scope for further discoveries yet.

My current interest is in electromagnetic propulsion and levitation, with an ever-keen eye on OU. Perhaps someone could help me with a generator to power this thing  ;D

Good luck to all of you.


FunkyJive



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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2008, 03:00:58 PM »
My apologies - double post deleted due to current browser dropouts  :-[

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2008, 04:20:56 AM »
They're not dead!  They're just pinin' for the fjords!
The Steorn forum is still up.  http://www.steorn.com/forum/

The "Guinness good for you - official" and "Orbo Limericks" threads over there seem to be moving perpetually.

ChileanOne

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2008, 04:33:35 AM »
Don't ever underestimate the power of Guinness!!!

Steorn is alive, and kicking. It went silent on purpose.

Patience is a virtude.

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2008, 08:06:06 AM »
Steorn is alive, and kicking. It went silent on purpose.

What a bunch of BS.  Here's Steorn the day of the Public display and they BRING ONE UNIT; and then state - they didn't know the bearings were going to cause a problem.  This is not Grade School --> my dog eat my home work.  You come prepared, with a model that works and you SET it and another aside for the day of the test (AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE A BACKUP).

Frankly, if you can't pick-up the phone and invite news media (any time) to come to see your prototype - You've got nothing.

Beam me up Scotty,

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2008, 12:56:33 PM »
Schpankme:

Think it the way backwards: What would have happen if the demo were have been successfull?

The Bearing Failure is something that Steorn did not expect. You have to ask the right questions.

How a bearing with a 3 minute winddown time becomes so bad as to have a 20 seconds winndown time?

That, my friend, is the right question.


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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2008, 02:11:43 AM »
Schpankme:

Think it the way backwards: What would have happen if the demo were have been successfull?

The Bearing Failure is something that Steorn did not expect. You have to ask the right questions.

How a bearing with a 3 minute winddown time becomes so bad as to have a 20 seconds winndown time?

That, my friend, is the right question.

And the answer to your question: Steorn was lying about the bearing problem.  They never had a working device.

Think about it.  Even if they had a working device and were so stupid as to only bring one prototype to the demo, and it did somehow fail, the first thing they would have done to save face is get back into the lab and film a working device and then put that on the Internet.  Instead, they have been silent for 6 months.  Hmmmmm.

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2008, 04:25:40 AM »
You bunch of naysayers !!!! (LOL)

It says right on their website, and I quote: "The validation process began in January 2007 and is expected to conclude by the end of this year. "

OOOPPPSS  :o   I guess the end of the year passed and still no conclusions.

Hey! These things take time you know! It may take more time. Another... year?  ... or two ... or three? .. or...someday?

Heck!!  All of you just need to be PATIENT you know. So quit yer bellyachin' !!!!    >:( >:( >:(  ---   LOL!!!




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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 04:48:48 AM »
the human race has all the tech it needs and then some but its kept from us when its stumbled across, we dont really need to come up with new ideas or scams, we have it all its just hidden from us, the real effort should be put on the so called ppl in power to release it and start putting them in prision for life if they dont and setting up teams apon teams of ppl to find it and put it on the net, look how far science has so called come latley, not far at all, 40ish years ago we goto the moon(so they say).........yet in the last 35 years we have not ?(so they say),tech didnt suddenly stop, its all hidden from us., its funny tho we chose to ignore it and do nothing but try to reinvent the wheel.,no wonder its taken away from us, we let it be that way.

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Re: Is Steorn totaly dead or have they planned a comeback?
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2008, 04:52:54 AM »
the human race has all the tech it needs and then some but its kept from us when its stumbled across, we dont really need to come up with new ideas or scams, we have it all its just hidden from us, the real effort should be put on the so called ppl in power to release it and start putting them in prision for life if they dont and setting up teams apon teams of ppl to find it and put it on the net, look how far science has so called come latley, not far at all, 40ish years ago we goto the moon(so they say).........yet in the last 35 years we have not ?(so they say),tech didnt suddenly stop, its all hidden from us., its funny tho we chose to ignore it and do nothing but try to reinvent the wheel.,no wonder its taken away from us, we let it be that way.

And you know all this because you read it on the Internets?