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Pegasus

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2007, 04:06:58 PM »
I think this new device is the electronic version of the Rene-Rator...
See it Here: http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2007, 04:14:48 PM »
I think I am getting there, now way over 4 seconds but I have a few questions.

1) My transistor is a 2N-2222. Is this OK.
2) On EM last photo is that red dot near the transistor the smaller cap?
3) When I light the led its bright and then it starts going down until I cannot see it anymore from the side angle, but when I look at it from the top down, it is still somewhat lit. Are you guys counting time looking from the top down.
4) What voltage are you hitting the large cap with?
5) When looking at btenzers' photo, I notice his ferrite core is nice anf black and clean. My ferrite is taken from these ready made hit pot coils that I had on hand but the core is very brittle. Cracked one when trying to saw off a small slice of the ferrite to try something else. (Open loop core) So are there qualities in ferrite material.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2007, 06:23:32 PM »
I think this new device is the electronic version of the Rene-Rator...
See it Here: http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg


I think i have to ask acerzw where he edited his pic from  ;)

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2007, 06:28:46 PM »
Carpet blinker.

--giantkiller.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2007, 08:10:01 PM »

@Wattsup,


1) My transistor is a 2N-2222. Is this OK.

EM recommended a transistor with a beta of 200+

The 2N-2222 beta can range from  35 to 300 depending on the current and the actual physical device itself.

If you have a transistor with a known typical beta (hfe) around 200 or higher then that would be best.

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2) On EM last photo is that red dot near the transistor the smaller cap?

That is an LED that EM left in the circuit I think he said because of fragile leads

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3) When I light the led its bright and then it starts going down until I cannot see it anymore from the side angle, but when I look at it from the top down, it is still somewhat lit. Are you guys counting time looking from the top down.

As long as you see light from any angle then it's running and count the time.

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4) What voltage are you hitting the large cap with?

I hit mine with 13.0V - fully charged battery

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5) When looking at btenzers' photo, I notice his ferrite core is nice anf black and clean. My ferrite is taken from these ready made hit pot coils that I had on hand but the core is very brittle. Cracked one when trying to saw off a small slice of the ferrite to try something else. (Open loop core) So are there qualities in ferrite material.

There is a entire science behind cores.

Look here: http://www.amidoncorp.com/aai_specifications.htm

A cracked core is not a good thing...


-Duff


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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #65 on: November 18, 2007, 09:49:48 PM »
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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2007, 12:07:33 AM »
@Wattsup


I forgot to mention another thing about the 2N2222.

You should also consider the Vce voltage of the transistor you select. The 2n2222 only has a 30V max rating.

I'm seeing spikes at my collector of 200V.


-Duff

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2007, 12:34:58 AM »
HI   ROBERT  THANKS 
I SEE HERE  IS FORKING  SOMTHING  OK
IS GOOD
FOR EM..
EJ MAN WAY YOU NOT TALKING WHIT ME  WHERE ARE YOU   :) :) :)
IS GOOD   YOU MAKE  THIS SMALL TPU  . 
 I SEE HERE IN THIS FORUM HAS A PROBLEM  HM .......
I NOW  WHANT TO SAY END REMEBER THIS TO ALL
WORDS OF SM...... MY DIVICES IS LIKE RECIVERS   ;D ;D ;D
...  YOU HAVE ENRGY ALL OVER YOU  IS THERE  >>>>> SM SAID EARTH MAG FILD  HMMMMMM
THE PROBLEM IS HOW YOU WHILL MAKE  A RECIVERS   HMMMM
SM SAID 
IF YOU MDE MANY OF THAT  THEN I GET SOMTHING  HMMMMMMMM
EXPLANE
IF YOU ARE GOOD  ELETRONICS MAN AND IF YOU KNOW HOW IS WORKS SIMPLE RECIVER  THEN YOU MAKE SOME GOOD RECIVER  <<<IM STABILITY RECIVER>>>OK
WAY IS NOT FORKING LONG TIME  ANSVER
THIS  IS TPU  OF MY MAN  HAS  2 THINGS <<<<<L AND C>>>>> OK
HOW IS MADE SIMPLE RADIO RECIVER .......>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
YOU MADE COIL  AND CAP IN THE PARALEL  OR SERILA  IS NOT VERY IMPORTANT
THEN IN THIS  2 ELEMENTS YOU CAN CATCH  THE SOME  FREK. 
THE FREK  IS DEPENDET OF  WHAT  IS L  AND  WHAT IS C  THIS IS FOR A  THE FREKF
OK WAY IM SAID THIS
IN THIS SIMPLE RECIVER   YOU HAVE SOME FREK   BUT IS NOT  A STABILYTI  AND PRECISLY ONE FREK  ... THE RECIVERS  HAD NO  STABYLYI  FOR CATHCH THIS FREK
WAY I SAY THIS  IF YOU HAVE GOOD RECIVER    THIS RECIVER  HAS THE SAME 2 ELEMENTS<<L AND C>> BUT  AND HE HAS  ONE THING  ELEMENT HO HAS ABLE TO  GET STABILITY  TO CATCH  SINGLE ONE FREK.. 
 ;D ;D ;D
I SAID THIS BEACOUSE THIS
THIS TPU  IF  ;D  IS LIKE RECIVER   OF EARTH HZ  IS OK  BUT HE HAS NOT STABILITY
THAT IS REASONS WAY HE FORK 4  OR 5  OR 2  OR 1 MIN
IF YOU MAKE SIM. RECIVER  AND YOU LISTEND THE RADIO  ON HIM   
WHAT WHILL  WE HAPEND
HMMMMMM    << FIRST  YOU LISTND ONE STATION  THEN SOME  ONE OR 2  SECOND YOU CAN LISTEN ANTHER STATION AND  THEN YOU CAN LISTNED ALL STAIONS IS LIKE YOU MOVE SCALE  ALL TIME  WHIT NO STOP   AND IN THE END YOU CAN LISTEND ALL  BUT  YOU CAN NOT LISTNED  THIS STATION  YOU WHANT ;) ;) ;)
THAT IS THE REASONS  WAY  IS NOT WORKING LONG TIME

I LIKE TO HELP SOME THINGS
IF YOU ARE GOOD ELTRONICMAN  YOU CAN FIND  A  HOW TO TUNE  EXSACTLY FREKFENCY  YOU WHANT  <<EARTH>>> AND YOU WHILL MADE WHIT  L  AND C   IS OK
  BUT  L  MUST  BE  EXSACTLY    IN HENRY  AND  C   IS  CAP
AND YOU  HAD FORMULA  FOR  L AND C   =  EARTH 
 THEN HOW TO GET ALL TIME  YOU RECIVER  TO BE A STABILITY  TO CATCH THIS  HZ  HMMMMMM
 IN THE END  YOU CAN GET  ALL TIME  THIS LED TO LIGHT   ;D ;D ;D
THIS LED IS A HAVE LITLE TIME  TO START TO LIGHT   THEN IS START TO LIGHT  SOME MIN.  THEN IS GONE   THEN IF YOU WAIT  THEN WHILL AGAING MAYBE  WHILL COME THE  LIGHT AGAIN 
LIKE SIMPLE RECIVERS  YOU TUNE  ONE STATION YOU LISTEND  THIS  AND  THEN ANTHER   THEN IS BACK AGAIN THIS STATION AND THEN IS GONE  AND.... AGAIN THE SAME THING  ALL TIME  WHIT  WATHING SOME TIME ;D ;D
THAT IS FOR NOW SE YOU  IF YOU GET SOME PROGRESS
BY THE WAY
HOW YOU WHILL MAKE  A ANTENA FOR YOU RECIVER  FOR   THIS  <<BIG TRANSMITER>>
IS  LIKE AAAAAAAA AL   OR   8) 8) 8)  MANY  THANK  AND THING OF THIS 
GREATHINGS  FROM  POOR  COUNTRY  <<MACEDONIA>>

EMdevices

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2007, 01:00:18 AM »
Hey there Macedonia CD,  we'll have to try receivers next  :)

Guys, I tried my circuit with a regular LED and it didn't last nearly as long.  I think the original LED I have is realy efficient, it has a low voltage drop in forward bias, etc..  It's the small type of LEDs, found it in a box of electronics a friend gave me, so I don't have specs on it.
wattsup,  that red dot next to the transistor is the small cap.   I forgot to mention that I also swaped the caps from the previous picture I posted.  Like duff was saying the other red object is the diode I just left on the board.

So what do we do with this circuit now?   :)

well, I've now been playing with interference of two oscillators and magnets, etc..   I got a setup that produces so much random noise and spikes it's incredible.  I take the LED out and hook up another coil on a ferrite and bring that close to the torroid, and they interfere with themselves and cause havok.  It's very interesting.  It's a mixer all right !!!

EM

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2007, 12:50:33 PM »
Hello,

After some false starts (wire too small, etc), I've managed to get this working. Best time I got is 15 minutes 30 seconds. In the course of switching wires, etc I found out that if I put my led in reverse polarity i.e. anode to coil and cathode to gnd, I don't burn up leds anymore.... 8)

I've also put the led anode (positive) leg to between the R and C and the negative to coil, it blinks as well. I haven't check the time yet but it's much better than the 4 minutes + that I got much earlier. I'm not sure what it will do? increase the run?

I'm charging my capacitor with a 9V battery (more like 8.83V)

Measured the frequency with my DVM across the led and I got 3.4Hz. Transistor is a BC337-25 and RC is 1MOhm and 1uF tantalum.

My attempt is as in the picture.

Regards, cp

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2007, 03:49:22 PM »
@sanmankl

Looking good.

Can you state the coil build, turns, wire type if possible so  we can continue to have some comparisons. Your ferrite seems wider than the standard. Where did you take it from.


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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #71 on: November 19, 2007, 06:56:04 PM »
@sanmankl

Looking good.

Can you state the coil build, turns, wire type if possible so  we can continue to have some comparisons. Your ferrite seems wider than the standard. Where did you take it from.



Hi Wattsup,

My ferrite is OD 20mm, height 10mm and 8mm. The wire is AWG #23. Collector coil is at 40 turn, Recapture is 20 and Trigger at 10. I've also made another one (bigger torroid (dunno the composition but it's not a black ferrite) and the turn is Coll: 55, Recap:at 30 and trig: 10. The performance is much better/longer.

The difference between mine and EM original design is the I reversed the LED because I'd "killed" something like 10 LEDs if I follow EM's circuit.

I'll take a photo of the new one when I have got my camera battery charged up.

My fingers are aching from coiling... ;D

cp


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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2007, 07:23:16 PM »
Hello People....
Some time ago,a series of videos was realesed by the CTG Lab group,showing probable "Free Energy devices".One of them shows a little toroidal apparatus that ligths a bulb.You can see it in the attachment...
I have the sempsation that developing the "reciclyng" idea we will be able to reproduce it.
If you look close,you can see a vertical coil between two ferrite rings,and another coil,(horizontal this time),made of few turns, wrapped around the entire toroidal form.This last coil is made with TWO WIRES.On the top there is an eletrolityc capacitor.The juice is taken from one end of the horizontal coil and one end of the vertical coil.May be one of the two wire of the bifilar coil is used as recapture coil?And what happen if the device is tuned with the 7,83 Hz?.I think we will end up with a sort of perpetual generator....
These are just some ideas to try to develope....

Regards,
Pegasus

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #73 on: November 19, 2007, 08:40:37 PM »
@pegasus,

This video is not real, I was around when Dave (CTGLAbs) created this, he used a magic bulb for this "Trick". Please do not read into this any further.

Marco did a wonderful Tesla transmitter/receiver as well around the same time. you might still find video's of this as well. Marco's is somewhat related to the TPU but is just an example of one of Tesla's patents.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #74 on: November 19, 2007, 08:49:38 PM »
Hello all,

As Carl said, there is no free energy in my videos, despite other people now on youtube showing my videos as their own and claiming REAL free energy devices, lol!

Again, as Carl said, "these are not the droids your looking for, move along..."

It amazes me that having said many times these devices are not real, people do not believe me and think I am hiding a real device!  Perhaps a better point here is, do not believe what you see just because you cannot see how it can be faked.  Just because we see the SM TPU working in a video, doesn't mean its not a fake!  We have no proof of anything yet spend ours and hundreds of $$ trying to replicate!


Regards,

Dave.