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Author Topic: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.  (Read 373928 times)

hartiberlin

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2007, 10:12:54 PM »
Hi EM,
how many coils do you have on the core ?
2 or 3 ?

How did you do the feedback ?

Do you have some diodes that charge up the el. cap via the back EMF spike ?

Or is the LED the freewheel diode, that is powering back the cap from the coil back EMF spikes ?
Many thanks.
Looking forward to your new tests...

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2007, 01:00:55 AM »
There are 4 coils
Diode is the LED
Kickback spikes are recycled.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2007, 01:09:52 AM »
Hi EM,
many thanks for the nice picture.

So how are the 4 coils connected ?
Could you make a fast handdrawn schematic
and just make a picture of it and post it ?

If some other people can verify this, this thing could
be scaled up much faster.
Many thanks already in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2007, 01:13:58 AM »
Thanks EM,

This is an interesting development. Looks like you might have something there. Can't wait to build it.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2007, 01:39:23 AM »
Hi EM,
just think about a name for your circuit,
so as you are the inventor you can give "your baby" a name
how we should call it. :D

So everyone knows, that you are the inventor, if you
put your name with it.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2007, 01:46:52 AM »
The omega coil tpu system... 8)

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2007, 04:07:31 AM »
There are 4 coils
Diode is the LED
Kickback spikes are recycled.

Nice!
Can the audience please have a shot from the back?

--giantkiller.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2007, 04:39:13 AM »
Unless he modified the breadboard there should be no need for it Giant :-)

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2007, 05:17:22 AM »
Cool find, EM.  8)

I have a few questions about your picture, if you don't mind.

Thank you,
Rosphere

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2007, 06:06:35 AM »
> if it's something trivial that's been published before
> I'll be more then happy to disclose full diagrams.

huh?

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2007, 06:37:24 AM »
@Rosphere

Geez nice work but that's more than a "few" questions. All these would be eventually answered with a diagram.

Just the fact that the system was running longer with the circuit then directly on the charged cap says it's got promise, so let's give EM some room to breath.

@argona369

Can't blame EM for being a realist. He's seen these before only to jump back to say no way. So being the cautious optimist is only the right and responsible thing to do.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2007, 01:40:55 PM »
@Rosphere

Geez nice work but that's more than a "few" questions. All these would be eventually answered with a diagram.

Just the fact that the system was running longer with the circuit then directly on the charged cap says it's got promise, so let's give EM some room to breath.
...

Okay, "many questions."  I was not asking for answers quickly, I am not in a hurry.  EM can take all the time he needs to inhale and exhale and do whatever else he needs to do along the way.

Perhaps it is just a "capacitor relaxation" circuit; working on the caps ability to bounce back after discharge.  Maybe after running for a few minutes/hours this circuit can condition a cap to stop bouncing back and this may be why it does not last all night.  Even so, it initially appears that I may not need to run out to the store to purchase any more parts to replicate this one for myself.  My excitement caused me to look deeper into the photo and come up with some more questions than the average bear.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2007, 04:22:44 PM »
Patience guys,  my wife monopolized the computer last night so I couldn't get online much.  

For a name for this device, I would say we can use  CRS circuit,  meaning   Charge Recycling Strobe circuit,  or something to that effect.

anyway,  I let the CRS circuit run last night with a bigger capacitor and it ran about 2 or 3 hours.  I had the circuit close to my bed and I glanced at it around 1:30 AM this morning and it was still beating, but very faint.   I now have it beating at about 4 second intervals.  

So,  I now know what makes it go and I'll be sharing a diagram in just a moment  ..... ....   stay tuned

EM
« Last Edit: November 14, 2007, 05:42:27 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2007, 04:31:53 PM »
Hi EM,
many thanks for letting us know.
Please be sure, to not change any parts too much, so you might
loose the right circuit.
Please document all details and parts and locations.
Maybe it also depends on the stray capacitance on the connection
pins on your breadboard.
So better get new parts and leave the old unit as it is working
and try to build a second unit, so you can see, if it will work also,
maybe also on just experimenter pcb circuit boards...

Many thanks again for your hard work.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2007, 04:41:06 PM »
my wife monopolized the computer last night so I couldn't get online much.   


Tell your wife you need the computer for your new baby. I am sure she will understand!

AM