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Offline billmehess

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Being Decent To Each Other
« on: November 11, 2007, 11:32:08 PM »
Lately I  have noticed greatly increased levels of poor behavior in responding to posts. This needs to stop!
Ideas and projects will stand or fall on their own merit. It is not necessary to resort to the really terrible level of name calling that has become so common on this site.
We as adults would not stand for this if our children were acting this way and we should not accept it from our peers.
We can agree to disagree but to stoop to the levels which I see are occuring way to much is really unacceptable and foolish.
We know were all on this edge of "fringe science" Most of what we see posted will never become reality. But we continue with our work in hopes that maybe someone else will pick up the gounlet and move forward.
When we disagree with someone lets take the high road and offer constructive thoughts and comments. I am not signaling
out any one person to many are guilty- stop it!!
We have been affordable a wonderful forum to voice our views  lets use it in a adult way and stop this foolishness!
Please don't respond to this by saying "Well if they wern't so stupid then I..."
Stop it NOW!!

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Being Decent To Each Other
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Offline Tink

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2007, 11:43:28 PM »
Amen!
You dare saying what I have been thinking for a long time Bill.

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 12:01:54 AM »
G'day Bill and all,

It is fascinating to watch that the behaviour you are talking about is isolated to just a few threads, In most threads this does not happen.

Magnet motors is one of the worst in this regard.

Interesting, isn't it?

Hans von Lieven

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 12:01:54 AM »
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Offline Omnibus

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2007, 12:15:20 AM »
Now, look who's giving opinions--the biggest offender. As for the magnet motors, these are the most promising. Remember, in this area (SMOT being part of it) it has been conclusively proven for the first time that CoE can be violated. No other area has so well expressed, rigorous scientific evidence to that effect. No wonder why the tensions are higher here. In addition, here's the first promising application of SMOT for continuous production of energy from nothing--@xpenzif's motor. Exciting times.

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2007, 12:20:10 AM »
Sigh

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Offline billmehess

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2007, 12:20:19 AM »
Stop this! You are a better person than this.

Offline shruggedatlas

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 12:26:40 AM »
Now, look who's giving opinions--the biggest offender. As for the magnet motors, these are the most promising. Remember, in this area (SMOT being part of it) it has been conclusively proven for the first time that CoE can be violated. No other area has so well expressed, rigorous scientific evidence to that effect. No wonder why the tensions are higher here. In addition, here's the first promising application of SMOT for continuous production of energy from nothing--@xpenzif's motor. Exciting times.

Lisa, in this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2007, 12:44:28 AM »
Stop this! You are a better person than this.

I think it's in his blood. There are others here as well. They are the way they are, and they're not about to change, just like you or I are not about to.

The best way to deal with folks like this, is to ignore them.

Offline Omnibus

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2007, 12:47:54 AM »
Stop this! You are a better person than this.

I think it's in his blood. There are others here as well. They are the way they are, and they're not about to change, just like you or I are not about to.

The best way to deal with folks like this, is to ignore them.
You may ignore all you want but I'll not ignore you if you begin pushing incompetence as truth. Arrogant incompetence pushed impudently mustn't remain unpunished. Don't get me wrong, you haven't done this but I'm just saying.

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2007, 12:56:56 AM »
Now, look who's giving opinions--the biggest offender. As for the magnet motors, these are the most promising. Remember, in this area (SMOT being part of it) it has been conclusively proven for the first time that CoE can be violated. No other area has so well expressed, rigorous scientific evidence to that effect. No wonder why the tensions are higher here. In addition, here's the first promising application of SMOT for continuous production of energy from nothing--@xpenzif's motor. Exciting times.

Lisa, in this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
See, the thing is, you don't even know exactly what you're talking about. You've heard this and are repeating it without deeper knowledge of it. You should know that laws of thermodynamics aren't disobeyed in most cases even with this discovery. What we are talking now is about one very special case which, of course, is enough to overthrow the general validity of CoE. However, technical thermodynamics or chemical thermodynamics remain as we know them. Those who have taken courses in these disciplines, take chemical thermodynamics, for instance, know that in the very introduction a statement is made that all observations will be in absence of magnetic fields. Of course, in the future the exception may become the rule because efforts will be redirected into exploring what now is the exception. For obvious reasons. As of today and foreseeable future, however, not to worry, chemical thermodynamics will still govern basic education in, say, chemistry.

Offline billmehess

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2007, 01:00:33 AM »
The purpose of this forem is not to ignore but to contribute. Contributions can be responded to in a postive manner, even if one does not agree with them this benefits everyone.
Namecalling and belittling  benefit nobody.
Nations do this we don't have to.
It's somethimes hard to change but change we must!

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Offline Omnibus

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2007, 01:07:28 AM »
The purpose of this forem is not to ignore but to contribute. Contributions can be responded to in a postive manner, even if one does not agree with them this benefits everyone.
Namecalling and belittling  benefit nobody.
Nations do this we don't have to.
It's somethimes hard to change but change we must!
It's not about agreeing with someone. It's about impudence in pushing wrong ideas as truth which must not be allowed. Science is not a democracy. Not everything goes in Science. It is intrinsically intolerant and whoever abuses it must bear the consequences.

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2007, 01:12:07 AM »
Now, look who's giving opinions--the biggest offender. As for the magnet motors, these are the most promising. Remember, in this area (SMOT being part of it) it has been conclusively proven for the first time that CoE can be violated. No other area has so well expressed, rigorous scientific evidence to that effect. No wonder why the tensions are higher here. In addition, here's the first promising application of SMOT for continuous production of energy from nothing--@xpenzif's motor. Exciting times.

Lisa, in this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
See, the thing is, you don't even know exactly what you're talking about. You've heard this and are repeating it without deeper knowledge of it. You should know that laws of thermodynamics aren't disobeyed in most cases even with this discovery. What we are talking now is about one very special case which, of course, is enough to overthrow the general validity of CoE. However, technical thermodynamics or chemical thermodynamics remain as we know them. Those who have taken courses in these disciplines, take chemical thermodynamics, for instance, know that in the very introduction a statement is made that all observations will be in absence of magnetic fields. Of course, in the future the exception may become the rule because efforts will be redirected into exploring what now is the exception. For obvious reasons. As of today and foreseeable future, however, not to worry, chemical thermodynamics will still govern basic education in, say, chemistry.

First of all, lighten up.  That was a Simpsons reference.  It does not demand a fully thought-out rebuttal.

Next, the First Law of Thermodynamics states, "The increase in the internal energy of a system is equal to the amount of energy added by heating the system, minus the amount lost as a result of the work done by the system on its surroundings."  See, no room for energy out of nothing.

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2007, 01:17:21 AM »
Edit : no need to post here
Not relative to this thread
« Last Edit: November 12, 2007, 04:52:10 AM by IronHead »

Offline billmehess

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Re: Being Decent To Each Other
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2007, 01:18:25 AM »
In the end ideas and concepts will stand or fall on their own merit. Lets address them directly not by attacking personally that individual that proposes them. What do we accomplish by insults and namecalling and implying that a person is incompentent or without merit.
We are all ignorant of different things.
Change is hard!

 

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