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Author Topic: "Free energy" and "Overunity" We need a definition.  (Read 124380 times)

Offline Vinyasi

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Re: "Free energy" and "Overunity" We need a definition.
« Reply #210 on: November 25, 2022, 10:57:37 PM »
I repeat: it does not matter what we call the electricity generation process, because it will always be only a conversion process. We get it.

Wrong. It does matter what we call the electricity generation process, for this will define its scope. Please see ...

https://overunity.com/6310/free-energy-and-overunity-we-need-a-definition/msg571922/#msg571922

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Re: "Free energy" and "Overunity" We need a definition.
« Reply #211 on: November 25, 2022, 10:58:02 PM »
If you are talking about converting a currently unknown energy source, then by definition it will be hit and miss until we understand what is being converted to a form usable to us for our purposes, since we don't yet understand it, just like electricity in the very early stages of exploration of the subject. It took humanity how long to figure out reliable ways of generating static electricity, even though we saw lightning regularly, knowing full well a force was there?

If you are expecting COP>1, well then quit looking, as it doesn't exist except as ignorance of both the experimenter and measurer. A modern common solar cell taken back in time to 1800 would have been considered witchcraft to the scientists of the day, because they did not understand that light could be converted directly into electricity. They would have measured COP>1 from such a device in complete wonder and amazement, as the photovoltaic effect had not even been discovered yet.

A measurement of COP>1 just demonstrates that something interesting is yet to be discovered and the device is providing a clue to its existence, not that physics is being somehow being attacked, changed, or violated.

Paul Andrulis

The solution does not attack physics. Yet, it introduces a new concept, that of the reversal of current within an inductor, to convert what is conventionally considered to be, strictly, a passive consumer into an active generator, and without recourse to any additional, external prime movement to facilitate this result. Please see ...

https://overunity.com/6310/free-energy-and-overunity-we-need-a-definition/msg571922/#msg571922

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Re: "Free energy" and "Overunity" We need a definition.
« Reply #212 on: November 25, 2022, 10:58:14 PM »
Free Energy is that energy which comes at no cost to the system.


Overunity is a self-defeating fallacy. Here is why:
The moment something if defined as “OU”, we instantly look for the source.
Once the source is defined/discovered, the system falls outside of OU.


Two entirely different concepts.


You can have free energy, without overunity.
Example: two sympathetically interacting magnetic systems.
Neither is giving the other any “energy”.
The energy comes from Momenti interactions, independent of either system themselves.
Both systems increase their energy as a result.
We see this in space all the time, more difficult to produce here on earth buy can be done.


But this is not overunity, because we know where the energy comes from.

OK. Where does energy come from if it is produced by reactive impedance under certain conditions? Please see ...

https://overunity.com/6310/free-energy-and-overunity-we-need-a-definition/msg571922/#msg571922