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innovation_station

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What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« on: November 05, 2007, 05:48:47 PM »
no i do not know!!

that would be the reason for this thred

answer thease questions

all will be clear as i understand thease are the deepest darkest secreats of the universe

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innovation_station

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 05:53:16 PM »
might they be the binding forces that holds this entire universe togather ??

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2007, 08:32:50 PM »
 I don't know what exactly things are but I do know some things about them. Personally I like to keep things really simple.

The electricity makes magnetism

The magnetism makes induction.

The Induction makes the magnetic forces.

The force scales with the smaller induction field.

Important note:
The induction happens in a chain reaction, so it should be easy to build a permanent magnetmotor. If you accept that fact it should take you no more then 10 min to find a drawing of something that works.

cant prove it does work + cant prove it doesn't work = doesn't know if it works

Physics simply self destructs where the position of the magnets changes by an infinite small amount. It's making the induction and it's forces change by an infinitely large amount.

Linear motion would cause linear change, induction happens over time so the speed determines the rate of change.

When aligned 2 magnets induct fields into another the flux goes up.

The linear motion also changes the alignment, it's induction and it's rate of change.

There are to much factors changing values in the system. Most changes affect their own source. The magnets evidently interact with themselves.

How it all works exactly I don't know. It does show me that perpetual motion is quite easy.

The joy is in eating the soup?

innovation_station

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2007, 09:08:11 PM »
ppm

is there in nature every where  ;)

to mimic it is yes verry easy indeed

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to understand it is difficult

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 09:16:10 AM »
As far as I know, and I will be glad to stand corrected if wrong, NO ONE knows what electricty is, or what magnetism is, or, what gravity is.  They all know, or think they do, how they behave and what you can or can't do with them but, it never ceases to amaze me that, in this day and age, NO ONE knows.  This tells me that they are the key to the secret of the universe...otherwise, we would already know all about them.

Bill

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 01:56:00 PM »
Hello,
I don't know and have never seen a real answer just it effects and manipulations.
How I try to look at it.
Electricity - imagine a steel slinky. stretch it This is electricity. Now hit one end. A wave will go from one end to the other and back again. This is a signal in a wire. now put something on one end of the slinky that vibrates easier. Hit the other end of the slinky - the wave moves along the slinky and then disapates as the item on the end uses the wave energy. This item at the end corresponds to a light or a motor or whatever 'uses' electricity. Understand, its potential is always there it is in everything but different materials will vibrate differently - some more readily than others. This is conductivity. The wire of the slicky are the electrons in an item. Each spiral segment effected by the adjacent segment.

What is magnetism - a tornado, a vortex, an electon stuck in its orbit such that it can only move it a very small space which would be the vortex. like being attached to the nucleus of an atom by a thread and as it tries to escape it can only go in circles not orbits.

Now pass the slicky past a row of vortexes and it will cause a wave to be generated in the slinky due to the elecrons of the vortexes moving the electrons along the slicky arc which will cause a wave to be generated and if the slicky is tapped then the wave is moved out to do work elsewhere.

Hope I made sense. This is sort of how I envision things. Coudl be wrong but I haven't heard any better.
What I can't understand is how my chenestry teacher in primary school said that an electron belonging to an atom could be anywhere, as in inches or yards or miles away from the nucleus. I don't think so.

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 10:45:10 PM »
As far as I know, and I will be glad to stand corrected if wrong, NO ONE knows what electricty is, or what magnetism is, or, what gravity is.  They all know, or think they do, how they behave and what you can or can't do with them but, it never ceases to amaze me that, in this day and age, NO ONE knows.  This tells me that they are the key to the secret of the universe...otherwise, we would already know all about them.

Bill

well i know there are people out there that in fact do know what it is  and how it does work  and i aint talking me here   :(

but TESLA knew  ;) im sure sm knows lol!!   and you know what im sure a few other too

we will all see and understand this b4 too long

what might sm be trying to teach us??

hummmmm

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2007, 12:37:38 AM »
Its Juice! thats what. it flows dont it? then its Juice! you cant get no juice throu circuits coz they are all plugged up with wires,resisters diodes mosfetts trannys and stuff! :). Yep its Juice alright!  :o

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2007, 01:37:45 AM »
  I look at it this way trying to explain electomagnetic interaction when an electrical conductor is involved.  Magnetism is a force which is trying to reproduce.  It tries to make that which surrounds it as it is. Magnetism when encountering a conductor begins to work on the atom to orient the neucleus to look like it.  The neucleus of the atom does not move away or towards the magnetic force but begins to roll to align itself with the magnetic force lines.  The electrons of the conductor are caught up in this roll because of the reorientation of the protons in the neucleus.  The electrons in the outer energy orbits find themselves being drawn through space still trying to stay in their orbitals but gaining relative velocity in a uniform direction within the conductor.
Then the real trick happens.  The neucleus stops rolling cause it looks about as much like the magnetic force as it ever is going to.  The electrons though very light are moving in a vectored path now and have built up momentum.  They snap the rope tieing them to the proton and go off on their own free at last.  Unfortunately they dont get far before they run into the next atom with a proton looking to pickup some electrons.  And the electrons are trapped again.  They aren't too happy either because they are all caged in on one side of the atom. So they start to go towards their mutual corners and in so doing begin to roll the neucleus back to a position controlled both by the orbits of the electrons and the magnetic force on the neucleus.  Well then why does an electron movement cause a magnetic field change perpendicular to the electron vector.  As the recently freed electrons crash the next electrons party the neucleus reacts by rolling  away from the new electrons.  The neucleus itself has it's own magnetic desires and with a bunch of these coward protons rolling in the same direction create a new magnetic field  because the atomic orientation has become more ordered.  The new electrons get into the fray and electrons that were invited find themselves pushed out the door to the neighbors house where they start havoc again. 
     Change the magnetic look back in the generator and the whole chain reaction starts over again.  This doesn't serve to explain the universe just a scenario that serves my purposes in explaining electromagnetic interaction within a conductor.
A very finite situation.

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2008, 06:32:16 AM »
I have found that electricity is nothing more then a frequency. The more vibrant the frequency is, the more powerful the current. The sun would be a good example due to it's enormous explosions accruing all the time. The frequency's created from those explosions are what gives us light and heat. The frequencies are attracted to iron because iron has a resistance to frequencies. This is what gives us light and heat. Our air is made up of evaporated water which contains iron. The iron heats up from the resistance and glows which gives us light as well as heat. The iron content in the air is transparent to the naked eye as is it's content in water.

 This is my opinion of what electricity is and it would be the same as saying electricity is a flow of resistance.

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2008, 07:25:26 AM »
Our air is made up of evaporated water which contains iron. The iron heats up from the resistance and glows which gives us light as well as heat. The iron content in the air is transparent to the naked eye as is it's content in water.

nightlife,

I'm at loss as to where IRON can be found in WATER portion of AIR.  Please explain your comment.

Earth's atmosphere (AIR) contains 78% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, trace amounts of other gases, and 1% water vapor.

Water vapor can be produced from the evaporation of liquid water or from the sublimation of ice.

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2008, 07:32:03 AM »
Schpankme, when to much water is accumulated in the air it creates rain and rain water contains iron, so there for, the water content in the air must also contain iron. IMO

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2008, 03:14:11 AM »
     Electricity is just a change in matter as is all energy.  Matter is a fleeting equilibrium between two forces everpresent in the universe  One that wants everything dispersed and one that wants everything concentrated.  Magnetism arises from the dispersion force and gravity arises from the concentration force. Gravity and Magnetism are not the forces they are what the forces do.  All energy is a change in matter.  Magnetism is something the dispersion force does in it's attempt to make all void.  Gravity or electrical potential is what the concentrating force does to attempt to make all as one. 
     Iron exists because it changes it's atomic structure according to how dispersion force enacted upon it.  So it has magnetic memory.  It will react to dispersion force in a predictable way because of this memory.  That is why iron is all that is left once a black hole has sucked up everything else.  It can ride on the river of dispersion where a whole sun's worth of matter is migrating towards the center of a black hole.

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Re: What is Electricty What is Magnetics?
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2008, 09:00:53 PM »
Iron exists because ... That is why iron is all that is left once a black hole has sucked up everything else.  It can ride on the river of dispersion where a whole sun's worth of matter is migrating towards the center of a black hole.

Sparks,

There is not NOW, nor has there ever been a BLACK HOLE (not found, not observed); and you acting like a PARROT and repeating the same bs does not make it so!

Big Bang is dead.

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