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Author Topic: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT  (Read 137765 times)

wattsup

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2008, 07:01:54 AM »
@Plengo

Here it is. I had this in my photo bank.

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2008, 08:58:48 AM »
I'm sure MACEDONIA already has the small TPU working and Now he is going for the big fish. Ying-yang is the answer and also think like a kid. SIMPLE no electronic parts...think simple! :)

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2008, 03:10:35 PM »
@wattsup
thats the one wattsup. Would you be able to tell us which video was that and where in the video (seconds)?

Fausto.

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2008, 06:59:56 PM »
hi 
me again
 @ wattso
i tell  or  we  dont anderstend me i tell   you   that   is NOT eny kind of tube  or somthing else like that  but   for simple  explane  TPU IS  LIKE  TUBE   I <<<MEAN  VACOM COIL >>>
 ANTHER WATSOU   IM   <<working  and my job  is  for  repair  tv  aparatures  and athere
>.i knoww whery whell  elktronics but is not mathre this  >>

ANTHER I HAVE TOLD YOU  THE TESLA COIL  PRIMARY IS NOT FOR ENY KIND OF TRANSMITHING ENY KIND OF ENERGY TO EXIT COIL  <<OR  COILECTOR COIL >>\
I SAID THIS
THERE IS  2 CAPs 0,22nf  yelou cap one cap is for  one   primary  tesla armature coil  anther cap yelou is for anther tesla armature primary coil that is that  <<you mised the point there  or  you are dont anderstand me  <MY ENGLIS IS  BAD  I KNOW  >>IF  YOU ANDERSTAND  MY MACEDONIA  LANGUEGE  I WHILL TAPENING IN THE  MACEDONIAN WAY
AND LIKE TO  SAY  AGAIN TESLA COILs   IS NOT FOR  TRANSFORM OR GENERATOR TO TRNSMIT TO EIXIT COIL ENY ENERGY
IF YOU ASK YOUR SELF   THERE IS NOT  ENY  SECUNDARY TESLA PICK UP COIL
@ EM DIVICE
YES IM WORKING NOW TO FINIS  MY  TPU WHIT OUT ENY  ELEKTRONICS THERE    BUT  I MAST PUT  THERE  ONLY SIMPLE SWITCH  FOR  DONT TOCH  EXIT WIRE TO EXPOSE TO RMS HMMMMM

AND ATHERE   WHAT IS NEED  PERMANENT MAGNET  FOR  SMALL TPUs OF   SM
 ;) ;) ;)
AND   WAY IS VIBRATED  HIS  TPU s  yes  <,mast vibrated  yes  Steven  Mark  IS NATURAL  TO MAKAING VIBRATIONS THERE  THANKS  SM
WAY VIBRATED THIS  <<DC  WHIT AC  TPUs>>
look here i tell you what is there  but there is somthing else  now  i dont tell you  you mast  find  what is there in the tpu
yes thre is   tesla primary coil  for  big tpu
but way is need this  old tesla coil  NO ELKTRONICS THERE
I HAVE SAID  THAT TESLA IS GOOD TO PRODUCED STRONG  AND FAST  ELKTROMAGNET FILD

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #79 on: February 29, 2008, 12:12:37 AM »
   The arc is consistent with high voltage pulsed dc.  You'll notice that he has to try a couple of times to establish the arc,  To get a spark on pulsed power you need to seperate the conductors when the pulse is rising. This ionizes the air which becomes a conductor and you pull out the spark until the ionized air resistance is more than the voltage and the arc goes away.
   Tesla's primary is of high selfinductance.  A coil self-induces when each turn acts as the primary in a transformer and the subsequent turns as secondaries. Therefore the emf becomes vectored along the coil x axis. The secondary of the Tesla coil feels this magnetic field vector.  This vector flow is fast. This allows for a huge gain in voltage as compared with just changing the ratio of turns in a standard transformer and jiggling the magnetic field of the core.  The self-inductance of the secondary of the Tesla coil is low.  The capacitance of the coil turns  matched to the inductance.  This results in a current whose emf doesn't travel from turn to turn but is in phase with the emf vector field of the primary. Lots of volts, very little steel and insulation.
    SM's tpu seems to employ a Tesla primary, powered by ramped dc pulses.  The emf of the kick windings vectoring along the outer circumference of the collector coils. I believe this is where the tpu differs from the Tesla transformer.  The e-field of the primary windings creates the voltage in the secondary or collector windings not the primary magnetic field.  So SM's analogy of a garden hose and squeezing the water along starts to make sense.  The efield is the squeeze. Now where does that overunity come from?

wattsup

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #80 on: February 29, 2008, 03:07:20 AM »
@plengo

The video is the one that starts with SM cutting the medium TPU and he does the sparking at 18:50.

@MAC

I will re-read your details. I will also try my idea on pulsing a bailing wire armature with collectors wound, just in case. lol

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #81 on: March 01, 2008, 12:11:52 AM »
hi 


     how many time i said this    THE TESLA  PRIMARI  COIL  IS NOT PRODUCED ENY KIND OF EXIT ENERGY    THIS  IS  FOR ATHERE THING  THERE   
dont traing to make  simple tesla coil whit secundary   coil  thre is  like this tpu 
I SAID THAT IS IN THE  TPU  IS ONLY  PRYMARY  COIL
TESLA   ATHERE THING IS THERE  IN THE INSAID OF TPU  ANTHERE TIME  I WHILL MAYBE  I WHILL TELL  YOU
 I HAVE MANY  SECRET  I TELL YOU WHAT IS THERE  WHEN I WHILL SEE SOME  OF YOU  IF  WHILL MADE OR TELL SOMTHINGS  CLOUSE TO MY TPU IWHILL HELP

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #82 on: March 01, 2008, 04:32:25 AM »
@MAC
Before we design the TPU experiment, we need a reasonable theory. Could you tell more your idea and the possible source of the extra energy?

b0rg13

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2008, 07:55:13 AM »
ohhhh!! , now its a secret, gee what a suprise? 8)

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #84 on: March 01, 2008, 05:34:50 PM »
hello
sm say that mystery video about spinnig compass
but where is that video
okey maybe this is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Mr_0S7zqw


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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #85 on: March 02, 2008, 09:10:47 PM »
@zapnic
 
 yes you are raid  AND FINALY PUT THERE COMPASS AND  LETS MOVE  THIS  SLYPY ELKTRONES  LET <<<  GIVE AS POWER    ;) ;) ;)


@OTTO  @ RENOTE @ EM DIVICE

SOMTHING SIMPLE EXPLANE>>>>>>  IST EASY TO MOVE ELKTRONES  ;) ;) ;) 
                                                            BUT IS HARD  TO MOVE ELKTROMAGNET FILD ;) ;) ;)

 

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #86 on: March 03, 2008, 04:35:38 AM »
hi all
@ Wattsup

i did find this pdf on the yellow cap
hope this is what you all need

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #87 on: March 03, 2008, 05:31:18 AM »
Thanks weri812.

For what it is worth I've had some experience with this type of capacitor, although not in that high of voltage rating. The structure of this capacitor is made to remain pretty stable in environments where there is exposure to vibration. They also have a high Q. I've worked with them in old telephones. On party-line systems the old mechanical ringers were tuned to a ring frequency with the combination of the ringer coil and capacitor; i.e., LC. They had to be stable during the ringing operation and hold it's value.

The other application that has been mentioned here is cross-over networks in speakers. Again exposure to vibration and used, in this case, for passing the higher audio frequency into the higher frequency speaker coil or tweeter. I'm not into audio that much but, again, it's used in an application exposed to vibration in a tuned system.

These capacitors will take a high rate of energy and well suited for snubber circuits.

So these capacitors are most likely involved in some sort of tank circuit. If we know the capacitance value will this allow us to assume that the coil it is used with has the same value in inductance.

Also, I'm curious if the audio is good enough to analyze in the video where Mark is showing Sparks. This may give us another clue if we can pull some frequencies off of that part of the video.

If this all has been brought up before please except my apologies.

Take care.

nap
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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #88 on: March 03, 2008, 07:27:05 AM »
@weri812

Good find. Thanks.

@Slapper

Thanks for your input.

If someone can look at the video and estimate the capacitor dimensions, the pdf has measurements that could be used to approximate which of caps is being used. I would say in the 600vdc cap range and match to the dimensions would give the maximum uF value.

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Re: HI MACEDONIA CD I MADE SOME LIKE TPU IS FORKING MORE THEN INPUT
« Reply #89 on: March 03, 2008, 09:04:01 AM »
mac your english is not that bad, but your spelling is!       :)

(read it phonetically QUICKLY, if you are having trouble understanding him)

regarding where electron flow (overunity) comes from in the tpu, its a cascade effect caused by the properties of magnetic fields and electron flow in a wire and the ability of 2 rotating magnetic field, 1 from the top wire, 1 from the bottom wire, interacting with a wire between them made of a different material, to create spontaneous electrical flow.

THEORY: the electricity flowing through the wires creates a "pulsed" magnetic field by nature of the delay/oscillation caused by the material difference in wires 1,2,3, etc and wires a,b,c etc.

magnet creates electricity, remove magnet and electricity should stop. the magnetic field in the wire caused by the flowing electricity in that short time the hand held magnet was within the coil, allowed a cascade process to start.

so a tpu coil would look like this...........?

wire 1
wire a
wire 2
wire b
wire 3
wire c
wire 4

wire 1 is your "input" wire (pulses of dc)
wire c is your output wire (get usable electricity here)


electricity flowing through numerical wires (1, 2, 3), create a magnetic field. the magnetic field from wire 1 spins clockwise around that wire, and down into wire a (for the sake of argument. actual direction is not known to me). that same electrical flow continues around the coil and back to the same face of the coil, but it is now at "wire 2" (i should have used the word winding instead of wire maybe...easier to visualize for me this way though). wire 2 creates a clockwise magnetic field also, which spins up into wire a. the "kick" from these 2 magnetic fields hitting eachother in wire a causes an electrical flow at a right angle to their collision, which is the same direction that the coil windings (wires) are wound in. this causes a usable electrical flow to move in wire a, and that flow is added to by more and more kicks from the coil, as each pulse of electricity travels down the numerical coil.

to make this process self sustaining, you must be able to feed a pulse dc signal back into wire 1 (the top winding of the tpu). a small control circuit could probably be added at wire c, to route some of that voltage in efficiently timed pulses back into the tpu.

i can see this creating huge amounts of electricty, or heat.......but wouldnt it melt the coil windings before anything incredibly bad could happen? how much electrical/energy pressure can you create in an area before you get strange or hurtful effects?

this is all under the assumption that each wire in the tpu is kept insulated from the others. i assume diameter or mass or volume of materials may effect the tpu "kick" resonance.

is that correct mac?
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