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mscoffman

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2009, 09:18:14 PM »
I made a hydrosonic pump (200mm x 50mm rotor) from plates of acrylic glued together. It was spun up to 6000rpm before it ran by itself,had to dump water into cavity to stop it.No heat or steam was produced.On 3rd attempt the rotor started to rub on the casing. It was rebuilt using stronger material (fiberglass) but it failed to operate !!!
One day I will try again - good thing I had 4 witness's that also saw it run

That's interesting, but the material you used for the rotor (acrylic plastic)
is a linked chain hydrocarbon, as well as the fact that it does not have
thermal dimensional stability. I know it makes it easy to machine and
produce a variety of experimental versions, but it won't do for a final version.

It should be relatively easy to take an operable acrylic rotor and reverse
cast a clay/glass version and fire it to harden it, if you need an exact copy.

As I mentioned previously, because a griggs pump will heat water
underunity, it makes it difficult to guarantee under what
conditions overunity energy production will persist, but is the only
thing that will work for the long haul.

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #76 on: June 14, 2009, 07:21:48 PM »
I made a hydrosonic pump (200mm x 50mm rotor) from plates of acrylic glued together. It was spun up to 6000rpm before it ran by itself,had to dump water into cavity to stop it.No heat or steam was produced.On 3rd attempt the rotor started to rub on the casing. It was rebuilt using stronger material (fiberglass) but it failed to operate !!!
One day I will try again - good thing I had 4 witness's that also saw it run

LoL, you mean the pump ran by itself without water ? Nor it produced any heat? And still you call it hydrosonic....

Omega_0

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #77 on: June 14, 2009, 07:23:47 PM »
I seem to recall an invention being mentioned which makes use of hydrosonics via solid state methodology which was being positioned for the home water heating market.   Hey, if the lowly pistol shrimp can master the finer points of hydrosonic cavitation.....why not we?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

Very interesting...
That shrimp can heat up the water to the temperature of the sun just using some bubbles. Impressive.

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #78 on: June 14, 2009, 10:29:39 PM »
Very interesting...
That shrimp can heat up the water to the temperature of the sun just using some bubbles. Impressive.

I stopped the video at the precise moment of the bubble imploding into a fusion reaction. it may be that this could indeed be made better using a specialized ultra Sonic cavity that focuses the bubble cavitation to a single implosion point, it would require a radial X, Y, Z focus so the fusion reaction can be continual without loss of the reaction. I could see it working.

Jerry

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #79 on: June 15, 2009, 01:11:07 AM »
Solid State Shoestring Sonofusion.  Sounds eminently doable.

http://sonofusionjets.com/


TS


P.S. http://coldfusionfuture.com/Sonofusion_nuclear.html

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #80 on: June 15, 2009, 02:13:27 AM »
Taken from Wiki, interesting.

The snapping shrimp competes with much larger animals, like the Sperm Whale and Beluga Whale, for the title of 'loudest animal in the sea'. The shrimp snaps a specialized claw shut to create a cavitation bubble that generates acoustic pressures of up to 80 kPa at a distance of 4 cm from the claw. The pressure is strong enough to kill small fish.[7] It corresponds to a zero to peak pressure level of 218 decibels relative to one micropascal (dB re 1 μPa), equivalent to a zero to peak source level of 190 dB re 1 μPa at the standard reference distance of 1 m. Au and Banks measured peak to peak source levels between 185 and 190 dB re 1 μPa at 1 m, depending on the size of the claw.[8] Similar values are reported by Ferguson and Cleary.[9] The duration of the click is less than 1 millisecond.

The snap can also produce sonoluminescence from the collapsing cavitation bubble. As it collapses, the cavitation bubble reaches temperatures of over 5,000 K (5,273.15 degree Celsius).[10] A quick comparison: the surface temperature of the sun is estimated to be around 5,778 K. The light is of lower intensity than the light produced by typical sonoluminescence and is not visible to the naked eye. It is most likely a by-product of the shock wave with no biological significance. However, it was the first known instance of an animal producing light by this effect. It has subsequently been discovered that another group of crustaceans, the mantis shrimp, contains species whose club-like forelimbs can strike so quickly and with such force as to induce sonoluminescent cavitation bubbles upon impact.

TechStuf

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #81 on: June 15, 2009, 07:39:48 AM »

What next!   Oh yeah, this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoygy-8PTtU

Truth is stranger than fiction, on so many levels.


TS


onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #82 on: June 15, 2009, 06:39:15 PM »
The water Hammer produces cavitation bubbles that maybe forming fusion bubbles and or Sono-luminescence which is super heating the steam, only nuclear reactions are said to give out over-unity so there might be some bubble fusion cavitation taking place, they could check for Neutron radiation and excess Helium because if so they might be getting a little exposer.

Jerry

TechStuf

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #83 on: June 15, 2009, 09:10:37 PM »
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there might be some bubble fusion cavitation taking place, they could check for Neutron radiation and excess Helium because if so they might be getting a little exposer.


Yeah, what he said....


Let's do that!


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TS

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #84 on: September 09, 2009, 02:52:27 AM »
@ Whitebird

Hope this photo answers some of your questions.

@ TomG

How's your project coming along. I'll post a pic of what I'm up too later

Dave

Dave,

I am working on this project right now can you tell me what was the motor power used in the picture KW/HP ?
Also do you have new updates.

Appreciate it.

Z

lltfdaniel1

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #85 on: September 09, 2009, 01:38:52 PM »
The water hammer is a cavity effect so it taps zpe as zpe interacts with everything, you can get overunity with it.

wings

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #86 on: September 09, 2009, 01:49:15 PM »
You can download for free New Energy Technologies magazine here:

http://www.faraday.ru/net.htm

the last numbers 2003, 2004, 2005 contains lot of information about heat cavitation devices

in order to have cavitation the tangential speed must be over 60 m/sec, cavitation depends also from pressure in the pump.

some test:

http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2007/10/3/195821/664

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #87 on: November 12, 2010, 05:51:09 AM »
Having another attempt to get the Hydrosonic Pump working.
Have  a Variable Speed Drive to get it to 6000 rpm and a 500W generator to load it up if it starts to run by itself -also have a water dump value to shut it down if things get out out control JC

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #88 on: July 30, 2012, 03:03:51 PM »
any news on this?
any replicators?
anything???????????????????????????????

mscoffman

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Re: Hydrosonic Pump
« Reply #89 on: July 31, 2012, 08:20:16 PM »
any news on this?
any replicators?
anything? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Well, they work. They produce their excess energy because of cavitation LENR.
Because they have a fluid water "core" where the reaction takes place it is difficult
to get these to show any self-running-loop tendencies, but generally just plain water
excess heating.


If you search for the string "nowak" on this web site. You will find information
on the DRJ200 and other Griggs type heating pumps.  Dr. Nowak is difficult
for us to understand because he speaks in Polish. The only thing I would
advise is that Europe uses 50HZ. electric power so it's motors run at a sub-multiples
of 50 RPS while US. uses 60HZ and AC motors there run at sub-multiples of 60RPS.
So optimal cavitation rotor hole spacing will probably change between these two.
One could use gearing to adjust RPM's. Very efficient electric motors are also required
which needs to be in the motor's specification sheet.  It's unfortunate that Dr Nowak
and associates didn't get their message across sooner because what they had is a
valid LENR  utilization pathway, though it shares problems with all fluid core LENR
reactors. Most people are now working on more direct LENR stuff.

See; http://www.e-cat.com

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