Author Topic: The ~Tube Rack~ (Read 14864 times)

innovation_station · « **on:** October 31, 2007, 07:30:15 PM »

here we go marco

care to help

i just found the old tube guy near me

going to get all the tubes tommorow transformers and all

sooo

where to start

hummm

ist

innovation_station · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2007, 08:33:23 PM »

a pic of marcos tubes

i need to make a shopping list for transformers and tubes and the 3 varibale caps 3 gout is that what they call those ones

so it looks like a bunch of tubes but im glad the tube guy i found has a cheep price tag

he has 20 000 in stock he is only .5 hours from me

like i said progress will be fast but i will not do it all alone if i must forget it i will not post it public

what do we all have in your pic here dude?

i will be using the 6bq7a tubes he has a bunch i was going to get 5 more of them for a total of 6bq7a tubes so i will need power supplys fore those tubes and the rectifier tubes in marcos pic are 5u4gb tubes i see 2 of them and the rest i have no idea

so guys help me out

what do i need to buy ?

ist

this will be my last atempt at any of this i must move on so people lets do it i know this works i know sm is a great person i know it is all here except what i was posting when they killed my laptop

so time to ........... ~~END THE GAME!! THE REAL WAY~~

innovation_station · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2007, 09:31:38 PM »

marcos schem

innovation_station · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2007, 10:11:41 PM »

all comments welcome

pese marco bep zpe all you guys and yes everyone i did not mention i must resolve this list tonight all of the materials well i guess no comments no help

hummmmm

and i thought we all wanted a real tpu

im going first thing in the morn to get everything on the list but first i need the list

so i guess i will be up all night re reading all the info pertaining to tubes agin so i can peice togather the list

i will use the 6 v tubes like sm did not the 12 even tho they will work i am so verry new to tubes that the lower the voltage the better in my case i have some solar deep cucle batteries i can use to keep it clean and off grid i have a 400 watt invertor i can use to power the transformers but agin i dont know what voltage transformers i need eather the dude has all i would ever need right there waiting for me but it ia all useless unless i know

and i currently do not know all that i need

so i ask for the last time

there is just never enough money round here to go round so the less mistakes i make the better

all the way round

ist

innovation_station · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2007, 11:08:44 PM »

so now i will layout what it is i know or think i know

this rack MUST consist of

3 class "A" power amps around 5 watts or so {push and pull}

i think it was this amp that only lets the odd harmonics through but not sure must check that out yet

then we need 3 osolators that can go to at least 1 meg dont know wich ones for sure just yet but have a good idea

lost on the input transformers and the output transformers i have no idea what is needed

hummm

the 3 var caps or tunners or what ever they are called and at this point i dont know what else

ist

@ mannix where are you NOW!!

this is what you all want me to do is it not???

well advise i dont know what is next i dont see anyone else doing it so ......

innovation_station · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2007, 11:31:58 PM »

so the 6bq7a tubes are phase invertors so what are phase invertors well in my opinion they are the freq gennys sine wave generators or osoliators

and it was stated some where wich osc to use but SINCE MY LAPTOP IS DEAD i cant get to my tube books and the page last time i checked was not working where the books came from so not good

but i will see if i can peice all the diffrent schems to this thred tonight so i can come up with an idea of what i want for tommorow and with some luck i can do it right and get all i need tommorow all at once

is

one could say that i have never been so hyper @ somthing b4 but this game must end soon i will be happy when i finish

because it will also answer questions i have about my machine as they operate in a similar fasion and maybe just matbe all my machine is is a mechanical tpu hummmmmm...

innovation_station · « **Reply #6 on:** November 01, 2007, 05:09:28 AM »

the tube osc that have been pointed out to use

so i will need 3 of thease in the rack the 6bq7a tube will work for this i would assume

innovation_station · « **Reply #7 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:14:10 AM »

now the amps

and yep only the odd harmonics come through with a push and pull amp

ist

ie 1 3 5 7 hummmm

so i should be able to make a push and pull amp from a single 6bq7a tube because they are dubble triodes so 3 of thease tubes should cover the amps and i think as a triode they were 3watts output but when in a push and pull they could push 5 or 6 watts each amp from what i understand i did not see a rectifier tube in the schem hummmm so i assume they can be powered dirrectly from the transformers so i need 3 of those too for thease amps because we must keep all things independent of each other

so humm thinking about this is all i need more 6bq7a tubes and power supplyies ??

a total of 6 6bqa tubes 3 for osc and 3 for the push and pulls am i wrong? why do i need rectifier tubes? or do i?

innovation_station · « **Reply #8 on:** November 01, 2007, 07:03:35 AM »

so the end of my serch says to my understanding 6 6bq7a tubes and 6 transformers for power supplyies i could use just triode tubes for the freq genny but i might aswell get the dubble ones then i have spares but the transformers must be able to do 245k hummmm is that a special trans? i will have to ask the tube guy i hope i have got this correct but i think i do im sure that some of the tubes could use the same sypplyies but maybe not so i will get indivigual supplyies for the tubes for thease tubes the htr works on dc or ac as i recall

so just the var caps not too much really and in doing this if this is right i already have a good idea how to hook this up to the coil and well i think is this easy

ist

innovation_station · « **Reply #9 on:** November 01, 2007, 02:50:33 PM »

i just talked to the tube guy on the phone and he says i could use 1 transformer for all 6 6bq7a tubes but they will not be indepedent supplyes but still independent in operation from one another

so welll i got to do some more digging cuz aint nobody talking i have to meet him at 1 this afternoon so till then i digg

Koen1 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 01, 2007, 03:08:10 PM »

What are you trying to do??
It's clear you're working on something based on electron tube tech and oscillating circuitry, but what exactly are you aiming at here?
Is it an attempt to build a variation on Tesla's "black box" or what??

innovation_station · « **Reply #11 on:** November 01, 2007, 03:21:57 PM »

the tpu

i want 3 freq gennys and 3 class a amps that is all

the amps should be sepreat from 1 another i guess i should get 3 transformers and power 1 amp and 1 genny from each transformer that would keep them sepreate for the genny i will only need to use 1 of the triodes in the 6bq7a not both will this matter? i dont think it will i could just use a single triode for that but i thought i cant go wrong with those tubes but i fear i may need more tubes like rectifiers but this is where i get a little more lost than i am currently

innovation_station · « **Reply #12 on:** November 01, 2007, 03:43:29 PM »

ah yes it is time for some links about this tube

as i can see

we need them

http://www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0033.htm

a good link with tools to calculate tube amp stuff like impeadence and that kind of thing

http://www.duncanamps.com/software.html

acp · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2007, 05:13:10 PM »

Quote

so the 6bq7a tubes are phase invertors so what are phase invertors well in my opinion they are the freq gennys sine wave generators or osoliators

A phase invertor does exactly what the name says it does, it invert the phase by 180 degrees.
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\_/ \_/ \_/ \ the above inverted.

turbo · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2007, 08:11:09 PM »

Verry well....from the beginning.

Does anybody care to name the little osc's below because i believe they actually named them wrong in this old book i found.

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