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Author Topic: extracting power from plants?  (Read 25839 times)

triffid

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2008, 01:18:20 PM »
looks like once again I have taken this thread off topic.I only offered the patent because it had circuits that could boost the 1.25 to 3 volts you get from your" bat-trees" 100 times or more.Of course the current would drop in a corresponding manner but there is another thread here about something called a water block cell(a device that maintains the voltage and the current).So there may be hope afterall.I don't claim to understand that water block cell.Triffid

exxcomm0n

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2008, 10:13:45 PM »
@ all ( in forking segment) -

I've always wondered why a signal generated with the impulse of power wouldn't carry said impulsive power? Doesn't a transmitter seem to be this device that floods the air with energy?

@ all in main thread topic -

We get power from plants.
Wood. Ethanol. Corn sugar.

That most of the methods of realizing that power being so patently inefficient (it takes years to grow a tree, it takes hours to burn it completely) usually means that we should look at it (fuel use) again both on a production and consumption level.

The thing I'd worry about most is how much extra energy can be gleaned from a "crop" without stopping or stunting it's growth?

How is it happening in nature now? That'll give me something to think on.

Wouldn't it be wild if you could tap plant roots with them behaving as stubblefield coils (I REALLY have no idea what that [stubblefield] is about. I'm just using it in the way I've seen posts referencing it, allude to [Jeanna in Wild & crazy Caduceus Coil interpretation thread] ) as a bi-product of getting the nutrients they need for natural healthy growth?
Something to use the capillary movement of nutrients and metals from root to foliage?

Replacing lawn mulch w/ capacitive torrids?

Just some random thoughts. ;) I apologize to any innocent bystanders that might get struck.

« Last Edit: April 30, 2008, 01:11:25 AM by exxcomm0n »

triffid

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2008, 03:23:15 PM »
I read a comic bookllike that once.except all the people were replaced by machines,not the plants.So the cities of earth were there,full of machines.

Steven Dufresne

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2008, 04:09:21 PM »
Back in 2005 when MagCap announced they were getting power from trees I tried a few experiments. I haven't returned to them since though. FWIW Here's a photo from back then along with the notes I made.
-Steve
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<-- start of notes ----------------------------->
Jan 8, 2005

With 1 grounding rod hammered about 6" deep.

- I first nailed about a foot up the tree, into the wood. Voltage was
meaasured directly between the nail and the copper rod. Voltage was
around 1.004 volts but varied when I removed and reconnected the
probes and aligator clips from 1.004 to 0.94.

- I also measured across a 12ohm resistor and got significantly less voltage.

- I measured current in series with the 12ohm resistor and it was around
18microamps.

- I measured current in the 12ohm resistor and is was still around 18microamps.

- As a sanity test I measured with a nail that was just duct-taped to the
side of the bark. There must have been some capacitance because it quickly
dropped to single digit millivolts and kept dropping from there.

- I also measured with two other nails. One was higher up and showed around
the same voltage, 1.00volts. The other was in a crack in the bark so I did
not have to scrape the bark away first. It was also around 1.00volts.

Jan 9, 2005

- With 1 grounding rod, the results were, starting from top left nail
  to bottom right nail:
  49uA, 0.90V, 44uW
  51uA, 0.79V, 40uW
  34uA, 0.94V, 32uW

- With 2 grounding rods, the second one hammered about 12" deep:
  57uA, 0.94V, 53uW
  54uA, 0.82V, 44uW
  37uA, 0.97V, 36uW

Note that the 2 grounding rods were connected at their top using two
wires with aligator clips (two were used to increase conductivity).
During the tests for 2 ground rods, the current fluctuated slowly,
sometimes going up and sometimes down. It was not random movement,
definately unidirectional. The voltage did likewise but possibly
more slowly. This may have been due to the two grounding rods being
at different potentials in the ground - though both were cut from
the same copper pipe. This type of fluctuation was not as prevelant
when using only one grounding rod.
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triffid

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2008, 07:21:50 PM »
I am about to work out some values of the components that will increase the voltage a 100 fold.I also just heard about lakhovsky coils.Some of those were wrapped around trees(to protect them from diease I understand).They take energy from the universe and add that energy to the life force of the tree.The theory is that all living things act as electronic circuits.What caught my interest here is that a single loop of copper wire can funnel enough energy over an extended period of time to heal a plant of cancers(plant cancers that is).

Koen1

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2008, 02:25:09 PM »
Well I read about the Lakhovski research on "multi wave vibrators"...
Seems to be a sort of cross between Reichian Orgone devices and
hertzian waveform based "radionics".
But I've only ever read "radionics" type stories about that, so it was
all about applying specific frequencies to combat specific afflictions...
Have never read anything about attempts to use such frequency coupling
to extract energy from plants...

But interesting stuff nevertheless. ;)

triffid

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2008, 04:36:20 PM »
It interested me because a single loop was used in the coil and it seemed to work(?).The only power source was cosmic rays or radio waves (broad spectrum I guess).Again I seem to be taking this thread  somewhere else?triffid

triffid

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2008, 04:41:42 PM »
I had already suggested in an earlier post that one could wrap a coil around a tree to see if they could get an output.Maybe wrap a coil (two different coils)around two trees and see if one could get a difference of potential between the two different coils.Just an idea.Triffid

Koen1

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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2008, 11:50:36 AM »
yeah, but it's still an idea :)
If you give it a try, please do post your findings eh?

triffid

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2008, 04:25:28 PM »
I will post my findings after I do it .I have two bushes about the same size.It would take not more than
20 windings each bush.Maybe just 5 turns.But I do not have a large tree and small tree near each other.Maybe someone here can do that experiment and post what they find?This could be used for space travel if we can find a way to generate electricity from plants.I tend to look for ideas whereever I can find them. Triffid

triffid

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Re: extracting power from plants?
« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2008, 07:46:25 PM »
Well I tried to wrap a 3 turn coil around two different plants and got zero volts between them.So I don't think my less than $20.00  voltmeter can pick up microvolts.It can pick up 1/100 volts though.Or so it says.triffid