@jeanna

Since the picture file you posted has small in the title, do you have a higher resolution version you could post?

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Getting back to our discussion of the one wire experiment.   

Sitting back, looking anew at one of the SM clues, and thinking about the "two frequencies (signals) separate power sources, traveling together in a wire."  Up to now, we have started to discuss "opposing" signals, which is what I believe SM meant when he talked about "connected in reverse of one another."  But, he also mentions "slightly out of phase" with one another.  Then you have some kicks!  Thaelin saw this, much more than I did, with 250 volt spikes, using only two frequency generators.

SM's Clue, I have highlighted the relevant part, IMHO:

I originally got the idea from electron circuits which use vacuum rectifiers like the 5U4 GB or 5AR4 etc.
The plate has a high voltage potential with lots of useable power available.
You cant get to it or use it for anything without applying a heating voltage to the cathode or what is the cathode potential of the tube.
So, you put in a small voltage of 5 volts AC 60 Hz which heats up the cathode and welcomes the electron stream from the plate.
Or actually the other way around, but not important for this example of my thoughts.
Now the high voltage power goes through the cathode and travels through the coils of the 5 volt transformer along with the 5 volt AC.
If the plate voltage is not rectified then it is AC with a potential 60 Hz frequency.
That combines with the 5 volt 60 Hz in the coil of the htr transformer and generally amounts to nothing. In fact the power of the 5 volt transformer amounts to nothing.
It is an insignificant power supply except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another.
Then you can measure all kinds of things going on.
You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds.
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a much larger kick at the output.

So, when doing the "reverse/opposing of one another" experiment, using IDENTICAL frequency, but one is "slightly out of phase" of the other, look for POWER SPIKES>Kicks

Please take note, that SM give us the frequency of both of the signals in this story.  He says, "...If the plate voltage is not rectified then it is AC with a potential 60 Hz frequency."  (First frequency is 60 Hz from the tube plate, not rectified.) 

Then, he says, "That combines with the 5 volt 60 Hz in the coil of the htr transformer..." (Second frequency, identical, in "reverse/opposing", "slightly out of phase".)

Lastly, the point is that the signals are identical, except for some key things.  Different sources (power supply/battery) and they are in "reverse/opposing", and they are "slightly out of phase" of one another.

I now firmly believe (IMHO) that SM drove the collectors as follows. 
FIRST Battery As Source 1:
F1 in first collector 
F2 in second collector
F3 in third collector

SECOND Battery As Source 2:
F1 in first collector, traveling in the opposite direction, identical signal as above, just slightly out of phase.
F2 in second collector, traveling in the opposite direction, identical signal as above, just slightly out of phase.
F3 in third collector, traveling in the opposite direction, identical signal as above, just slightly out of phase.

*Note:  Can you picture for a moment, how this could begin to "feed itself" and why SM would say, "because the signal source also becomes the feed for the power source and has the natural tendency to run with gain."

I think this is a major, missing part of our testing.     Let's change that.

Cheers,

Bruce


Edit:
I also want to remind all, of another quote by SM of Tesla:
"In that book it is related that Tesla states that you can have all kinds of electrons flowing through a wire traveling in different directions relating only to their potential power source.
He even said that you could have different electron flows through a single wire completely separate from each other.
I tried it and he is right!"

@ Scotty, Jeanna and Acer

PLEASE start a new thread for your pictures and discussion.  This thread is for one wire experiments.

@ Scotty
Some of us have only dial up and large photo's only clog the thread for many of us.

Thank you in advance for your understanding!

Cheers,

Bruce

My apologies, Bruce,
It is the reason the first one was a little gif.
I did think people doing this should see a picture taken from nature that I have never seen anywhere else.
jeanna

Good morning All,

Three of the "proper" frequencies will never be enough.  They must be "driven" with a triode tube, (to start with.  It is more than just the speed of the tube, it has to do with the harmonics naturally on the output of the triodes signal.)  head long at one another.  A separate battery (power supply) for each, slightly out of phase.  Identical signals.  I would test with the infamous 245 Khz.  One of SM's given frequencies and the frequency at which lightning is formed.

The following is a repost from June 22, 2007 of two experiments mentioned by Thaelin. My comments are in (^)

Experiment #1
 If you want to see this in real time, take two signal gens positive leads only. One small hobby motor and wire it to both gens. Now set the frequency's low but slightly off each other (slightly out of phase) and watch the motor rev up and down as the frequencies counter act each other.

Experiment #2
I have a bifilar coil from other things wound with a lot of wire. I put a small ninety degree coil through the center and hooked up two signals. Well not much. then I moved one of the signals to the output end and the scope went nuts.(identical signals opposing one another, different power supply's, slightly out of phase.)  Good way to see it too.

Link:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg36492.html#msg36492

Cheers,

Bruce

Hi Hans,
245 Khz and 35.705 Khz.  35.705 is the frequency of the northern lights, if I recall.

Cheers,

Bruce

@hansvonlieven

Idea only....

7.whatever was his target at one point.
35.705 was a low as he could make it go so he left it there (larger - higher Q coil)
245 was a maximum of the lower Q higher freq coil

We all know what the 7.? is. 245 would be the series resonance of the altitude of the ionoshpere during the day. Since this altitude changes drastically as day changes to night and back the lower end of the range for that coil would be around 160. Lightning burst have a spectral spike at many places but the two largest are at 1.7kHz and 175kHz (on average going by data collected by other hobbyists and whistler signals I have seen.)

So the thing probably needs to be a variable tuning device to cover changes in ionospheric layer altitude. Since the ionosphere is well known to be the location of most charged particles it seems plausible.

If the above is the way our Earth works then it appears to me that SM was trying to copy that function on a smaller scale.

Just my 213 cents worth (U.S. dollar is pretty much worthless right now 

Evening All,

Here are two more experiment ideas surrounding our discussion of "identical signals, separate power sources, opposing one another, slightly out of phase, (245 Khz suggested)

I only have one more experiment to consider at this time, but will post it at a later date. 

A friend of mine hopes to do some experiments along these lines this weekend.  Marco has seen it.  Thaelin has seen something odd.  I have seen something odd.  It fits all of the SM clues.

I think it may be the "circuit potential" we have for so long looked for.  But experimentation will tell.  Some of you have the equipment and are well qualified to carry out a few tests. 

Some are buying VHF triodes.  An easy oscillator tube circuit would be handy right about now.

Marco saw wires vibrate.  I saw a very strong magnetic field and RF interference at very low current.  Thaelin saw huge kicks using only frequency gens.

If this is not it, we should experiment, once and for all, and clear the air, so we can move on to other ideas.  IMHO    

I think someone will see something. 

Cheers All,

Bruce