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Offline z_p_e

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2007, 03:20:18 AM »
This thread WAS about single wire tests.

The last 3 pages have been about everything else. I hope duff and kames have not been discouraged to continue posting.

Too late I see...duff has already deleted all his posts. Congrats guys!

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2007, 03:20:18 AM »

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2007, 04:41:07 AM »
yup...


« Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 06:10:27 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2007, 05:19:04 AM »
I don't know what your gripe is z-p-e,

duff deleted his posts on November 6, Kames deleted his on November 6 and November 7 at 6.49 am

This discussion started with Erfinder on November 7 at 8.59 pm over a day after duff had deleted his posts. And duff was the one that started this thread. So how can THAT discussion be responsible for the deletions?

Make sure of your facts before you make accusations in future please.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2007, 05:19:04 AM »
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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2007, 06:10:19 AM »
I am truly impressed with the resonancy and kickin' goin' on here.

--giantkiller.

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2007, 06:30:48 AM »
Hans,

If you look, you'll see that the thread started going astray Nov 6, right around the time duff deleted his posts...see the correlation?

I did not imply that it was Erfinder's posts that started this. It would seem you read into that yourself. Perhaps you need to check the facts yourself.

I don't care anyways....it's all yours.....go for it

grumpman....good for you ;).

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2007, 06:30:48 AM »
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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2007, 07:19:21 AM »
Hello all,

@Erfinder

thanks a lot for the standing waves. This is the reason we must in the 15" TPU TAP INTO the collector on the right points with our control coils.

Otto

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2007, 12:33:52 PM »
it is just so funny how all the pecies fit and how this whole game un ravales

of course this has been the best journey any of us have ever taken well next to sm anyways

but

really the game has only just begun  ;) 

there is really no need for me to say anything

you all know all of my thoughts here are only theory as i have not even tryed to build a working unit lol

i dont have to try lol!!

i only must do  as do all of you altho i know most in here are finished

 ;D   congrats to all the hard workers  ;D

isteam!!

oh btw
i was so burnt form the last 4-5 days i just slept about 14 hours lol and i usually only get 5-6 hours

JUST BUILD IT  ~~IST~~            we all herd those words b4 lol 

so acerzw who are you anyways lol!! played easly dont fly wit me buddy lol

this aint about us  i think we all know that tho  :)

so now no i dont build right away
i assemble far more than a tpu lol

a team lol some of you know some of you know

lets go down the rabbit hole lol

Histeam  are you ready to go??

i will tell you this i sure am  so who wants a hover bubble lol







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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2007, 12:33:52 PM »
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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #97 on: November 12, 2007, 03:01:29 AM »
yup...

« Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 06:10:50 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2007, 10:12:03 AM »
Hi, I'm pretty new around here but this thread has fascinated me greatly.  I'd like to put something out there, as it seems related to the evolution of this discussion.

First, the setup:

Obtain a coffee mug(or similarly proportioned cylindrical object with a handle sticking out) and set it flat on the table in front of you.  Using the handle, rotate it flat and note the effort it takes to overcome the Resistance of Friction at the mug/table interface.

Next, pick it up and set it down with a slight spin so that it initiates precessional oscillation, now quickly train your finger on the handle and adjust the speed of rotation.  Note that the effort it takes to accelerate correlates directly to the Amplitude and Frequency of the precessional oscillation.  Also note that the mug/table interface is now stationary, you are no longer fighting Friction in your effort to rotate the mug.  Resistance becomes a "virtualized" property of the oscillation parameters.


Ok, now for some "Lateral Thinking":  Room-Temperature Superconductor via Inductive Precession?

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2007, 10:12:03 AM »
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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #99 on: December 17, 2007, 12:20:53 PM »
Kames not trying to be offensive but your test is nothing amazing. Simply put, its similar to compressing a spring and letting it go. The magnetic field has established before the wire has moved away and gives it an acceleration which overshoots the balance point naturally. I can't see anything other than this. Credit for trying though.

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #100 on: December 17, 2007, 06:00:48 PM »
Kames not trying to be offensive but your test is nothing amazing. Simply put, its similar to compressing a spring and letting it go. The magnetic field has established before the wire has moved away and gives it an acceleration which overshoots the balance point naturally. I can't see anything other than this. Credit for trying though.


Hi Flash,

There is a difference when comparing with a spring. The force acting upon a spring when released is not constant. When the spring is released it moves only under internal forces and oscillates around an equilibrium point with equal amplitude/energy. In other words, if you look at the spring oscillation like a sine wave, the surface/integral under ?positive? waves (above zero) will be equal the surface/integral under ?negative? waves (below zero).
With my test, if you take an integral of all the oscillations from one side of the equilibrium point and compare them with another side, they are not equal even for a naked eye. Plus, the force acting upon a wire is very much constant compared with a spring. I don?t disconnect a battery, the power is applied all the time and the applied force is not internal, it is external. If it were a little doubtful with the first video because the applied force wasn?t constant because of the way the magnet was located, in the second video, the force is very much constant, ie, has very little deviation from the original value. Does the spring have the same?
I am not offended at all. I just don?t want to go into an arguing anymore. There is further development about this test. I just don?t want to post it here at least for now.

Thanks,

Kames.

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #100 on: December 17, 2007, 06:00:48 PM »
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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #101 on: December 19, 2007, 02:14:24 AM »
I assume you are talking about the constant deviation once you have energised the circuit? I see this as a form of harmonic from the asynchronous oscillator you've setup with the 555 timer.

Not wanting to argue, but trying to see if there is more than what i initially saw.

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #102 on: December 22, 2007, 08:39:00 PM »
Hi Flash,

I am sorry I didn?t post a reply right after I saw your question. Unfortunately, other things take precedence.

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I assume you are talking about the constant deviation once you have energised the circuit?

I am not sure if I understand your question correctly. Correct me if I am wrong.
There are multiple ways to look at this test. I don?t really understand what you mean by constant deviation. It is unbalanced deviation around an equilibrium point. DC current in the wire is just a bias and should not create unbalanced movement/oscillation around the equilibrium point. Actually I managed to capture F(forward)EMF in this wire. It was unexpectedly high. The FEMF was going up to 18V. I cannot get the same with a standard coil. Does it have any meaning? I think it does. Try to create a substitution circuit for FEMF with momentary voltages/potentials, assuming that the internal impedance of the battery is very low or zero. It just won?t fit for FEMF. However, it does fit perfectly for BEMF, which is not a case in this test.

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I see this as a form of harmonic from the asynchronous oscillator you've setup with the 555 timer.

Actually none of the videos have 555 timer in it. Initially it was tested with 555 timer but it is not in the videos. In the videos I use a manual switch. Obviously, there are a lot of high order harmonics in the fast send off pulse. But all of them should not exceed the initial energy put in or create unbalanced movement/oscillation by conventional meaning.

Thanks,

Kames.

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #103 on: January 19, 2008, 12:04:31 PM »
simple experiments  :)
electronflow in diffrent directions in a single wire.
or coils (from diffrent materials)

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Re: Single Wire Tests
« Reply #104 on: January 20, 2008, 04:52:23 AM »
Fold a wire in half and the electrons flow the same direction. 


 

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