Hello all,

@Acerzw

my Rodin coil is almost flat and has dimensions to meet the 6" TPU. Yes, its my "invention" but a good one.
As I had in the time when I wound my coil only the Naudins picture I did it in this way.
As Im now a little bit cleverer I would make my Rodin coil with a hollow tube as a core. This tube should be made of teflon or silicone....then the windings with copper wires. This is maybe better than I did it but Im not sure. Im not sure because I cant imagine that there could be a bigger magnetic field than I already have it.

Otto

well we need pictures and links of rodin coils already wound  well hey i have a very larg spool of 22 ga copper solid  ready to jump right into a new coil but we need specks and the most basic layout of his coil and yes sure  i will whip 1 up dubble time why the hell not as i have almost 50 tpu now why not a rodin stack too lol!!!!


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come on guys lets get to work  i will build and play and post but we must have a starting point

lets first try and get marko here to assist and advise also i aint playing any more crazy games 1 is enough for a wile 

and i didnt even finish that one yet  but what the hell i will do both  some one round up the specks i will build it

@all

Marko Rodin has been in contact with abovetopsecret.com, it appears they requested information from him, he suggested a live camera link, and then posted his youtube videos's in response...

They are a somewhat sceptical bunch on that site, and one suspects slightly paranoid... see for yourself... http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread310026/pg

I am hopeful our approach might be taken seriously... since he is prepared to contact sites of a more skeptical nature...

Acerzw

@acerzw,

Thank you for starting this topic.

I have seen several of the videos so far.  Sunshine?

I have played around with the "=MOD('cell_address', 9)" function in a spreadsheet.  (It needs to be nested in an IF statement to test for a zero remainder and substitute a "9" if true.)

I have not yet seen enough of the content to discern how these whole number games fit in with the whole coil design analogy.

Nor am I sure what he means by, ?bifilar.?  I know what bifilar means, but how is it applied in this coil configuration; does he wrap two wires at the same time filling up 2/3 of the surface area, or does he wrap one wire filling up 1/3 of the surface area and then wrap the second wire to fill the adjacent 1/3?

I may answer my own question upon further exploration.  I just wanted to thank you for piquing my interest with this topic.

Rosphere ? lurking is less expensive

@c0mster,

One of the first few video sequences says, "...the red and the blue are two windings...," (referring to the diagram in the video.)

I also got a better look at the coil in the video.  The two wires do not seem to have been wound together; side-by-side at the same time.

Rather, it appears that one wire was wound along side itself until a third of the surface area was taken.  Then, the second wire was wound in a like fashion.

I am pondering the construction of two identical prototype coils, set apart several feet and facing each other; perhaps in a vertical orientation or towards a particular pole--might need to try them all.  Then, pulse one coil with a low voltage sine wave at slowly increasing frequencies until a bunny pops out of the other coil. 

@robsphere & c0mster

great to see your enthusiasm... rodin's own site is a great source for the information you want, I recommend re-examining its contents now and then... but Russ Blake mentions the coil configuration:

The Rodin Coil

The Rodin Coil is a toroidal?or doughnut-shaped?form wound by wires in a pattern consistent with the number patterns discovered by Mr. Rodin. Toroidal shapes wound with wires are commonly used for inductors in electrical circuits, often for use in transformers. However the pattern of winding in a Rodin Coil is radically different from conventional toroidal coils. Experimenters have produced some samples of the Rodin Coil to measure the effects of this new approach to winding wires around a torus.

To understand these effects it is necessary to review just a little electrical theory. When a current is passing through a wire it creates a magnetic field around the wire. When a wire is coiled like a cylindrical spring, as though wrapped around a pencil, the magnetic fields from the turns of the coil reinforce each other to increase the strength of the magnetic field. When the coil is bent into a circle, so that the ends meet, the majority of the magnetic force is concentrated inside the coil. This is considered a benefit in electrical circuit design, since stray magnetic fields can upset the operation of other parts of the circuit.

In a conventional coil the windings lay one after another just like the windings of a cylindrical spring. In a Rodin Coil, the windings lie on the surface of the torus, but do not lie consecutively adjacent to each other. Instead they reach along the surface, through the central, doughnut hole area, and 30 degrees short of directly across the torus. This forms, in addition to the wires on the outer surface, a crisscrossing circle of wires in the center of the torus. (The central figure formed by the wires in the doughnut hole is really a polygon of 24 sides for each completed wrap of the coil: so many sides it is considered a circle.)

Due to the central circle of wires in a Rodin Torus, it naturally creates a greatly increased magnetic field in the center of the torus, when compared to a conventional coil wound with the same amount of wire. In addition the field generated is much more coherent, in the sense of being much more sensitive to a particular frequency of applied current. These properties are the basis for useful applications of the Rodin Coil, as well as for any limitations in its use.

All this having been said, it is worth noting that no one has as yet created a coil precisely conforming to Mr. Rodin's exacting recommendations, all of which derive from the numerical patterns he has discovered in the decimal number system. The effects of a really well constructed Rodin Coil remain untested.

The increase in magnetic field over a conventional coil that is found with a Rodin Coil has been observed to be limited if the hollow torus is replaced by the ferrite core used in conventional electric motors. The reason is that the ferrite core reaches magnetic saturation, beyond which no additional magnetic field can be produced. Assuming this difficulty can be overcome by judicious choice of core materials, or that hollow cores can produce enough current, a motor based on the Rodin Coil could be markedly more efficient at generating electrical energy than a conventionally constructed electric motor. (The possibility of a hollow core electric motor is exciting due to the light weight of such a design.

Evolutionary Applications

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Before enumerating these practical possibilities, we should mention that they all require using the Rodin Coil in a more or less conventional fashion. We do not intend here to describe in complete detail how a Rodin Coil is wrapped, as this is covered to some extent in supporting documentation. (Detailed engineering work on Rodin Coil design specification still needs attention.) Here we only wish to point out that in a "real" Rodin Coil, there are two wires used to form the wrap; these are not connected to each other, but rather each wire is connected to itself to complete a loop at the end of the wrap. Thus there is no way to extract current directly from these wires or to energize them directly with an external current. In this section on Evolutionary Applications we divert from the strict Rodin Coil design, and energize the coils in a more conventional fashion, by connecting the ends of the two loops to one or two current sources or sinks, so we can utilize and measure the coil's properties along the lines of conventional electrical engineering. In the next section, on Revolutionary Applications, we revert to the true coil design as envisioned by Mr. Rodin.

Hope this helps... also look at links in the index post in relation to JNaudin's replication.

In relation to the whole number game, it is more to do with the patterns than the numbers... I will post further on this topic.... it is very interesting and requires a new understanding of maths as Rodins maths is not the same as normal maths... it is based on a different philosophy...

Acerzw

Soon as I finish up this project I'll be on the Robin Coil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3nPa7Y7EBs

C