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Author Topic: Rodin Theory & Coils  (Read 151953 times)

Offline Freezer

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #150 on: September 25, 2009, 04:32:13 PM »
I would like to see if someone can verify creating a monopole with the coil.

If this is really possible, it would seem that a magnetic overunity motor should be 'relatively' easy to build.  With monopoles and dipoles being using together we should be able to create a unidirectional force with continuous acceleration.

However I question whether this coil can really create a monopole - youtube videos surrounding free energy are notoriously faked.  Have no reason to believe Rodin's are any different - especially considering his websites have come down.  The most recent pitch I've seen is that he's soliciting money to build a spaceship and an alternator to power a city.  If you're interested in donating to his cause I have 12 miles of ocean front property in Nepal I can sell you for $100.

Rodin has stated in his latest set of videos that he is not sure if it really creating a monopole, due to the fact the pole detector could produce false readings, and realizing it's a cheap $40 tool.  I don't think Rodin needs to fake anything.  Monopole or not, if his coil is built properly, with the proper driving circuit, you won't need motors anymore, but I fear he will never get the proper funding he needs to move this forward.

Btw his website is not down.

http://rodin.freelancepartnership.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #150 on: September 25, 2009, 04:32:13 PM »

Offline spoondini

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #151 on: September 25, 2009, 04:45:38 PM »
Apologize for the misleading statement regarding his website.

Thank you for the link.

I do find the concepts fascinating but question the claims with healthy sceptism.

Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #152 on: September 25, 2009, 04:48:06 PM »
I would like to see if someone can verify creating a monopole with the coil.

If this is really possible, it would seem that a magnetic overunity motor should be 'relatively' easy to build.  With monopoles and dipoles being using together we should be able to create a unidirectional force with continuous acceleration.

However I question whether this coil can really create a monopole - youtube videos surrounding free energy are notoriously faked.  Have no reason to believe Rodin's are any different - especially considering his websites have come down.  The most recent pitch I've seen is that he's soliciting money to build a spaceship and an alternator to power a city.  If you're interested in donating to his cause I have 12 miles of ocean front property in Nepal I can sell you for $100.
While I agree that most is faked, I have no reasons to suspect faking with the rodin coils. Expectations are great, but claims of accomplishments are modest, or easily replicated as far as I can tell.

I initially also though that a monopole would totally make every failed PM motor a sure runner. Until I started to imagine how the flux lines would actually run, and I was pretty much back to square one. I couldn't imagine a monopole to be a one-dimensional flux cannon. I do wish it were, of course.
You are probably smarter, so I look forward to your proposed monopole engine. How is a monopople different anyway, from a rod with the poles veeeeery far apart? Know that I'm a rookie at this, so be gentle please.
Even if the Rodin Coil can do no better than an offset/asymmetry pole on a rod, perhaps that CAN help create some OU.

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #152 on: September 25, 2009, 04:48:06 PM »
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Offline HeairBear

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #153 on: September 25, 2009, 05:59:23 PM »
Science from the armchair... Why not confirm your thoughts with a coil of your own? Commenting from the sidelines is not the same as playing the game. So many seem to have the answers without even doing anything other than watching youtube videos. Why does asking for funding make a person or persons a quack? Asking for one of us to confirm your ponderings is no less than asking for funding.

Offline spoondini

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« Reply #154 on: September 25, 2009, 07:33:17 PM »
Not sure asking someone to confirm a claim is the same as asking for funding to build a spaceship?  Apologize for my misunderstanding of the purpose of the message forum (exchanging information both via experiment, ideas, and research).

As for how a monpole would make possible a unidirectional flow, the more I think about it I'm not sure how different it would be from having dipoles very far apart.  Since I have no monopolar magnets to experiment with I can only conduct the experiment in my mind.

The most simple construct to test would be a monopolar manget (north) on the perimeter of a wheel surrounded by dipolar magnets with all north's facing in the same circular direction, clockwise.  If rotating clockwise, the monopolar north magnet on the wheel would be attracted (accelerated) to the south pole of the next dipolar magnet while simultaneously repelled by the north pole of the previous dipolar magnet.  Each magnet surrounding the wheel would utilize both poles to perform attraction and repulsion.  It would seem that it should accelerate until magnetic forces = friction, or in a vaccuum indefinately.

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« Reply #154 on: September 25, 2009, 07:33:17 PM »
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Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #155 on: September 25, 2009, 10:07:41 PM »
Science from the armchair... Why not confirm your thoughts with a coil of your own? Commenting from the sidelines is not the same as playing the game. So many seem to have the answers without even doing anything other than watching youtube videos.
I resemble such remarks, so fair enough. Truth can be said.
I have 2 left hands and don't know a + from a -. Not sure I even own a screwdriver right now, not even a magnet on my fridge door.
Most complicated electrics I've done is hook up a temporary lamp socket from the ceiling, with fear of getting zapped. I am however a co-patent holder for some advanced mechanical constructions with great advantages in a specific application, I help others around me make their great concept perfect. Some small revolutions in progressive thinking I am proud to have been a part of. A helper/promoter more than a doer. Problem is that I set high goals for myself (and get close sometimes), and can only reach them in my fields of birthed talent. Also, I did not enjoy education in any comparison with my IQ/EQ. Actually, I hated education, and books. And outdated knowledge bugs me. I also prefer to co-operate than to solo-operate. I'll wind you a Rodin coil of my simple vision, if you'll keep me awake as I'm struggling along, or hold the other end of the wire :-)

@spoondini:
Very nice way to theoretisize that monopole, I had not considered it as such. I'd pay if iy could help make it true! I'll take the non-vacume experiment to witness, as high CF will make a less inside a vacume chamber inside a lab. Wouldn't want to be there when the rotor fails at 6-digit rpm...

Offline HeairBear

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #156 on: September 26, 2009, 04:10:20 AM »
No apologies needed. Your points are well taken, but, thought experiments can only go so far, especially when basing them upon youtube videos and popular consensus. As some one said. "If your going to talk the talk, you have to walk the walk". Talking the talk, although, may be task at hand once the walk has been mastered. Why the word "monopole" is being used to describe the properties of a Rodin Coil is beyond me. I would rather describe it as a vortex. What exactly are the properties of a monopole? Or is it that the coil creates monopoles seemingly in certain objects placed inside the coil? Maybe his math can explain more if we take a closer look.

Why is building a spaceship such a far fetched idea? I have witnessed several of many different sizes and shapes go into space and some actually making it back safely. Not all spaceships are designed as cargo carrying vehicles as we are so used to seeing from major space agencies today. Many ordinary people like us are doing it with better understood technology as hobbies using model rockets and such. Aren't those considered spaceships if they make it to orbit and beyond?

Why hasn't anybody considered experimenting with a Rodin Coil submerged in water? Water molecules are polar and should be affected by the coils EMF possibly creating a small whirlpool. What do you think?


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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #156 on: September 26, 2009, 04:10:20 AM »
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Offline spoondini

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #157 on: September 27, 2009, 04:06:20 AM »
A video of a Rodin Coil floating in water.  I never really thought about the expected effects completely submerged - a future experiment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n1L19YEkeU

The coil certainly appears to be creating a vortex like magnetic field.  Really quite amazing and I'm tempted to build one.  One of Marko's video's showed him using the coil to magnetize a carbon steel bit creating a monopole.  I've really gotten into Marko's math, watched 20 of the 44 videos.  It's starting to stretch the implications a bit, but I will continue watching with an open yet critical mind.  Take from it what is useful and unique and integrate into the rest of my thoughts.

I agree that spaceship's have now been built for substantially less than the megabillions our governments spend to replace toilets, much less run a space agency - it's just from my perspective some small successes implemented well (like a rodin coil driven ceiling fan) should be a precursor to the grand goal of intergalactic space travel.  Had he asked for money to perfect something more practical and believable, I would have probably sent him $100.

Offline HeairBear

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #158 on: September 27, 2009, 04:41:22 AM »
The Six Solfeggio Frequencies include:

    UT – 396 Hz
    RE – 417 Hz
    MI – 528 Hz
    FA – 639 Hz
    SOL – 741 Hz
    LA – 852 Hz


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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
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Offline jadaro2600

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #159 on: September 27, 2009, 07:15:40 AM »
The Six Solfeggio Frequencies include:

    UT – 396 Hz
    RE – 417 Hz
    MI – 528 Hz
    FA – 639 Hz
    SOL – 741 Hz
    LA – 852 Hz

...these were administered as part of the school wide hearing tests i took when in grade school.  i smell a conspiracy.

Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #160 on: September 27, 2009, 11:34:50 PM »
Why hasn't anybody considered experimenting with a Rodin Coil submerged in water? Water molecules are polar and should be affected by the coils EMF possibly creating a small whirlpool. What do you think?
Apart from the odd armchair experimenter, and the above linked vid, you mean? It was condisered, but perhaps people don't try their electrics first in water :-) To my disappointment, water seems to only be scooped up by the neo sphere due to friction, no thrusted water itself. A jetless jet, that would be something...

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Offline HeairBear

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #161 on: September 28, 2009, 12:26:25 AM »
Would you be as disappointed if you had done the experiment yourself?

Offline IotaYodi

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #162 on: September 28, 2009, 03:38:14 AM »
Latest Rodin coil put out today by Jamie buturff. Neo sphere stays suspended in air.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sahi7zDf8Mw

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #163 on: October 25, 2009, 05:47:25 PM »
Hello all, new to the forums.  I'm getting ready to make a Rodin coil to do some testing and from what I've seen here there seem to be issues with the inner/outer diameter of the coil and the use of a fixed diameter wire when winding to coil. I believe that the geometry is crucial to get the correct effects  so I figured I would use the Rodin geometry to determine the correct inner diameter of the toroid and use a copper strap/ribbon to make the coils.  I whipped this up in sketchup, looking for input.  The design is for a 20" diameter coil (scalable) based on a Rodin 36 winding, each strap/ribbon is 9 degrees wide and they start in 10 degree increments. See attached images.

Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Rodin Theory & Coils
« Reply #164 on: October 25, 2009, 09:15:49 PM »
Great graphics, thanks for sharing!

On this page: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4587-marko-rodin-9.html a fascinating alterative to the donut is proposed. Basically a skelleton of 3 ring of different diameters. The whole matches the Rodin enneagram to the dot. And, the visuals offer interesting associations...especially now that Jamie has show that even a collapsed Rodin coil works. So, the proposed tri-ring designs (just how I call it for myself) might be made quite flat. Like a small diner plat?

 

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