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Author Topic: How to best demonstrate OU?  (Read 3947 times)

Offline amateur

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How to best demonstrate OU?
« on: October 24, 2007, 02:41:08 PM »
Hi all,

I would like to ask a very amateurish question.

what is the best way to demonstrate the total output energy is greater than input energy using batteries as the facilitators; all being done and recorded in a video clips not more than 5mins.

Thank you for your assistance

Offline linda933

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Re: How to best demonstrate OU?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2007, 03:01:33 PM »
Hi and Welcome!

In my opinion, the best way would be to monitor the DC voltage and current on the input battery circuit and do not use a battery as a load on the output.  Rather, use a good quality precision power resistor and measure the voltage across it.  Too many fake overunity devices try to convince using batteries as loads.  There are many opportunities to make mistakes or fool yourself when you use a battery as a load and you can't prove anything in a five minute video unless you use really tiny batteries and very heavy power.

Is your output a steady DC or is it pulses or AC sine waves?  This can determine whether you need to use an oscilloscope or a true RMS meter.  The frequency must also be considered, as some instruments have limited accuracy on AC frequencies much beyond 60Hz.

Tell us more about the kinds of power signals you expect at the output and you will get lots of good (and probably some bad) suggestions for specific tests.  Also, please tell a bit about what you are feeding in in the range of battery voltage and expected current levels.  The more information you provide, the better a plan can be suggested.

Also, just for curiosity sake, if you feel comfortable about it, please tell us about what it is you are testing.  Is it a rotating device like a Bedini motor or a solid state device with no moving parts or what?  These details are not necessary to devise a proper test protocol, but are nonetheless interesting.


Offline gyulasun

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Re: How to best demonstrate OU?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2007, 05:55:03 PM »
Hi Amateur,

If you do not have (high) power resistors at hand what Linda rightly suggested you can use headlight lamps used in cars, they can substitute pretty much the power resistors. You can choose the lamps' power rating according your expected output power.
I assume you have DC or pulsed DC voltage at your device output what  you would want to load with a battery, in this case connect a electrolyte capacitor of a few thousand microFarad across your output to smooth the pulsed DC and then you can use a common DC amper and voltage meter to get a good info on the output power that feeds your lamp.  And of course you measure the input DC current and voltage taken from your source battery as Linda also mentioned.

This way you surely will not be misled by your own measurements with respect to your wish of using a battery as a load. And you will not mislead anyone here unintentionally.

rgds, Gyula

Offline amateur

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Re: How to best demonstrate OU?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2007, 08:02:22 AM »
Thank you Linda and Gyula....

What happens rite now is that while working on engine efficiency, I happened to figure by chance that I was able to generate a slightly higher voltage output than voltage input. As voltage isn't a true indicator of true energy transferred, I just wanna find out wad I have accidentally achieved and if the apple really dropped on my head ;)

I will try based on your suggestions and update you further on my progress....thankyou