Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1704164 times)

Localjoe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 812
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #435 on: December 25, 2007, 09:16:11 PM »
Hans .... dam you for being so good.. Stellar report absolutely stellar  the end with the paradox is my favorite its physical evidence of vortex theory ...

So your three examples of Faraday's disk show proof of an ether and even more that thats where the energy is released from....

The disk has to spin to move the ether as far as i can tell.  And a magnetic field must be present thus the example with the cb antenna magnet with the soft iron shell. That would be the same as example 3

Im picturing a vortex at a 90 degree angle from the disk in between the magnet poles for the first example ...

The second doesent work because the disk has to do one of two things to open the vortex!

Either move by itself and break an existing flux field thus the one existing between the poles of the permanent magnet shown in example 1 from Hans

 OR

Move with the flux feild of the magnet in synchronous orbit... Shown in example 3 from hans  On this example i guess i would have to say the vortex would be above and below the disc surrounding the perimeter.

Thats my explaination of the paradox if i have solved it merry christmas

Now example 4 for instance im making this one up because i feel it is left out. Just like the disk like in example 3 has the magnet moving around it and it is spinning on its axel but by a motor at a much faster speed and the magnet is kept moving along a circular linear track i think we have antigravity.....

For every action there is an equal and opposite re action wow hans I'm blown away, this really helped me understand some concepts better.  My ideas on where the physical vortex placement may be wrong but i believe that the rest is dead on.
                                                                                                                    Joe

hansvonlieven

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2558
    • Keelytech
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #436 on: December 25, 2007, 09:37:57 PM »
G'day Joe,

Thanks for your kind words.

Did you know that Helmholtz wrote a book called "?ber Wirbelbewegungen (1858)" (about vortex movement) which is the foundation of hydrodynamics and modern vortex theories. Unfortunately I have only found the German original, though translations must exist. I haven't found one yet as I don't know the English title.

As you quite rightly point out, this is exactly where our investigations are leading and in one of my coming essays I will try to get into this subject.

Incidentally, Victor Schauberger's work is based on Helmholtz.

Hans von Lieven


Localjoe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 812
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #437 on: December 25, 2007, 10:41:15 PM »
Ok Hans... We need to establish an exact or close time line.. of people an physics direction of their research ether or non ether and people they may have drawn from and discoveries in that timespan  .. This may yield even more from our current findings.. Bill as an investigator, I'm sure you would agree.  Much easier to follow changes and developments with that tool. 

To anyone new to this thread or newer please don't take some of our physics discussions as thinking were not doing the same experiments or changing our direction... We often like to keep this thread open for experiment and  Relative theory in an happy way and it has thus far worked exceptional. 
                                                                                                                                                         Joe

Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8366
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #438 on: December 25, 2007, 10:51:48 PM »
vdc record of 2.19 volts!!!  I have tried to post these pics and had written a very long reply that get dummped into the aether when I try to post!! It says," cannot locate overunity.com"  Then I hit my back button and try to post and it says"this is a dublicate post" which it is not because it did not post the first time!!!!  If this picture comes up ok, I will re-write my other posts.

Bill

Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8366
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #439 on: December 25, 2007, 10:52:14 PM »
duplicate post.  5 attempts to get a post on here, Stefan something is going on.

Localjoe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 812
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #440 on: December 25, 2007, 10:55:32 PM »
The Pic is there. The website is acting fruity .. who knows... awesome bill this is getting better by hr If you cant get your post up you can e-mail it to me at that address i sent you and i will try to post it for you. Merrrrrry Christmas!

Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8366
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #441 on: December 25, 2007, 11:09:06 PM »
Merry Christmas all

I am attmpting to re-write this post I have tried many times to get up but keep getting kicked out of the site for some reason.

I wanted to post something special here on Christmas so I took my carbon rod (17" long) and dug it up and cut it in half (2 pieces 8.5" long)  I did this because I could not sink the rod any deeper without risking damage and still had about 6" or rod sticking out.  Now, I have both rods sunk all but 1/2" to tie on to.  I only have one mag. block, looking for another but for today, I used 2 12" long zinc coated spikes.  I created two cells side by side (about three feet apart) alligned on the n/s meridian as before.  The zinc and the carbon are about 5 feet apart on this line.  I tied the two carbons together with a jumper off of each to the plus probe on the meter.  I did the same with the zinc to the neg. probe on the meter.  1.10 vdc!!!!!!  That's all.  But, on each cell alone I get 1.45 vdc and 2.4 mA (Not .24)  So, I am sitting there still not knowing how or why this type of series setup is not working when I get an idea.  The idea was suggested here a few times by several and I also believe Stubblefield mentioned it a time or two.  I took an old 9v battey I had lying around and wired it to my new cell. (the one on the right)  I let it charge for about 45 seconds and then waited.  I took a reading. (the one in the picture in the above post)  Now, don't get too excited just yet.  there is good news here and a little bad.  The level began to fall off (bad news) but appeared to stabilize around 1.83 vdc.  So, now I am thinking about hooking up my car battery charger to the house current and pumping in some 12 vdc and some heavry amps.  Maybe the cell will go up to 9 vdc and then drop down to 3 or 4 and STAY there?  Maybe I will short out my neighborhood?  Oh, the mA actually went down a bit after the 9v battery boost to 2.1 mA.  I have a picture I took of the carbon rod after I cleaned it.  It showed NO sign of deterioration of any kind after being hooked up in the cell for a few months.  This is good I believe.  I will post that pic. in a seperate post as I really don't want to write all of this again for the 3rd time!!!

@ Hans:
Great post man, I will go back and read it carefully, I just wanted to get this news up as fast as possible and have been having a heck of a time with the site for some reason.  Anyone else having trouble?

Bill

Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8366
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #442 on: December 25, 2007, 11:14:00 PM »
Carbon rod showing no visible deteriation after two months in the cell.  This is right before I cut it in half.  I tried posting this several times so hopefully it will show up.

Thanks for the offer Joe, I think it is working now...or...we'll see.

Merry Christmas all!!!  Today, I will drink a toast to all of my fellow experimenters here on overunity.

Bill

Localjoe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 812
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #443 on: December 26, 2007, 12:06:24 AM »
@ bill when was the meter reading from ?

pese

  • TPU-Elite
  • Hero Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 1597
    • Freie Energie und mehr ... Free energy and more ...
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #444 on: December 26, 2007, 01:08:28 AM »

duff

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 298
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #445 on: December 26, 2007, 01:47:50 AM »
So, I am sitting there still not knowing how or why this type of series setup is not working when I get an idea. 

Hi Bill,

I did experiments a couple of years ago with electrodes in soil and was frustrated by the fact that I could not get series circuit to work.

What you've got is a common medium so there is no way to setup a series circuit. You have to isolate the medium in one segment from the other.

I also plotted voltage over 500' foot straight line runs sampling voltage every 10 feet with reference to one point and observed reversal in polarities occasionally. If I'm remembering correctly it turned out the clay will cause a reversal of polarity which is interesting.

I mainly used copper clad welding rods and zinc coated rods in the experiments. I also tried 30oz  copper plates 15" x 15".

I think if you run your electrodes east and west you will observe something interesting. I believe that the west electrode will always give you a positive polarity (I may not be remembering the correctly).

I also ran across a fairly extensive study pertaining to mapping polarity of regions of the earth. I'll try to find it and send it your way (not at my computer at the moment).


-Duff

Localjoe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 812
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #446 on: December 26, 2007, 02:09:47 AM »
@ pese
   Thanks but we posted that link in the thread earlier somewhere. There is some great info there if anyone hasn't seen it. As well the modulated earth current and using it as a carrier is a great idea were just not there yet . All with good time thanks again and merry christmas
                                                                                                               joe

hansvonlieven

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2558
    • Keelytech
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #447 on: December 26, 2007, 02:53:38 AM »

What you've got is a common medium so there is no way to setup a series circuit. You have to isolate the medium in one segment from the other.[
-Duff

Sorry Duff,

 but this is not correct. In your typical 12 V car battery you have several galvanic cells in series sitting in a common electrolyte. This is not where your problem is.

Hans von Lieven

akashh

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 33
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #448 on: December 26, 2007, 03:01:43 AM »
@hans: great work on your last post!  It's nice to see various technologies using similar concepts, and gives hope to me that we will get to the bottom of it.

I had a thought about the faraday disk - I think the disc itself is made of copper.  When there is a changing magnetic field then a current is generated.  By rotating the disc there is a changing magnetic field because the outer rim is spinning faster than the inner rim and the whole thing is rotating so even though there would probably be no torque we'd still get current.  I remember reading that the faraday disc gave huge amounts of current and about .6 volts (actually, that's the N machine, but isn't the concept similar?)

Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8366
Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #449 on: December 26, 2007, 03:05:33 AM »
@ Joe:

The high meter reading (2.19vdc) was taken just after I charged the right cell with the 9 volt battery.  I disonnected the battery and then took that reading.  Do you think the 12 volt side of the car battery charger is worth a try?  I.m sure I'll be back to better regular reading once I get another magnesium block.

@Duff:

Thanks for the info.  I look forward to getting the other information as well.

@Hans:

That is an excellent point about the 12 volt car battery.  I know you have mentioned that before.  So, knowing you are correct on that, can you think of any reason that I can't get this series setup to work over here?  I am simply tieing the two plus carbon rods together and then the two minus zinc spikes together and the meter reading is LESS than either cell alone. I am taking the reading from a lead off of each + and minus side after they are connected together.  I am totally stumped by this.  It should be reading in the 3 volt range with the two cells.  I am still not done reading your post but I am amazed on what I have read thus far.  Excellent research!

Bill