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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1704223 times)

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« Reply #180 on: November 21, 2007, 06:11:10 AM »
Here a short quote from my website about Keely's approach to fundamentally the same problem.

Keely observed that huge forces held particles together in 'corpuscular embraces'. He knew this because he had been able to disrupt these 'embraces' and liberated extraordinary amounts of energy whose origin could not be explained in any other way. We know today that this is true. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are stark reminders of that fact.

It is interesting to note that this was unknown to science in Keely's time. That Keely knew this gives his observations and experiments more credit than anything else he did.

He was one of the first to state categorically that there were enormous amounts of energy locked up in atomic and sub-atomic particles that could be liberated.

Ironically, that was also the statement that discredited him most with the scientists of his day.

The only point where contemporary science and Keely differ is that science maintains that the only way to disrupt these 'embraces' is by bombardment with particles, in other words levelling a big gun at it and start shooting it to pieces.

This approach would have seemed crude and brutal to Keely, had he known about it.


We are dealing with essentially the same thing here, I do not believe we need radioactivity, either a sonic or perhaps a magnetic field will suffice. I prefer sonic since it is possible to direct the field with more precision than a magnetic field an since it lends itself to "shaping" more readily than any field of magnetic origin.

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« Reply #181 on: November 21, 2007, 09:01:58 AM »
 Below are some book reviews for a self published book that I will attempt to locate.  I thought it might make interesting reading.  (The reviews)    Bill
 
 I've been waiting for this one since first hearing about the featured inventor way back in graduate school more than 35 years ago. It's surprising nobody has done this before. But this appears to be the first book-length treatment on Nathan Beverly Stubblefield (1860-1928), the legendary Kentucky melon farmer who some (who don't know better) think invented radio years before Marconi. A member of the Murray State University faculty, Lochte has gotten behind years of local community hype to find out just what the man did-and did not-accomplish in a series of 1890s and early 1900s demonstrations.

What makes this self-published volume so useful is that Lochte has gathered more photos, patent reprints, and other information in one place than anybody else has managed over the years. While his findings won't please some of the Murray Chamber of Commerce types (who love to tout their town as the real birthplace of radio), they surely do place Stubblefield where he belongs-as an early telephone entrepreneur who pursued what turned out to be a wireless dead end. While purists might argue with Lochte's reference to his subject as "Nathan" throughout (they obviously did not know one another), that is a minor complaint for what is really a very well done biographical survey separating a bit of wheat from years of chaff.

Appendices include reproductions of Stubblefield's four patents, his 1902 statement on wireless telephony, a reprint of a 1902 Scientific American article, and reprints of an oft-cited speech and article on which others have drawn. Photos include both historical and current material and are well reproduced. This is fascinating and readable stuff.

Christopher H. Sterling
George Washington University


It's the eyes - the windows of the soul - that first attract the reader to open this book. Nathan Stubblefield's eyes stare from the vintage photo on the cover, inviting a curiosity about an early age in broadcast history. Was Stubblefield a visionary Kentucky farmer who invented the wireless telephone, as the title declares? "But was it radio?" the subtitle taunts. No matter what, those very eyes were eaten out by a cat before Stubblefield's decomposing body was found after the hermit starved to death. This fascinating book sorts out the facts from the folklore surrounding Stubblefield.

This richly illustrated book is a lively mixture of odd truths to help both the curious reader and the competent historian. What is found in the book is a compelling tale that is really two tales. First, there is the story of Stubblefield's inventions: What they did, how they worked, and why they failed. And second, the reader sees how newspaper accounts combined with boosterism from his hometown chamber of commerce - complete with songs and plays - and theatrics from a wacky relative, created a fictional, almost mythical image of the man.

Beyond providing interest for the broadcast historian and radio buff, this book makes a distinct contribution to the history of media product marketing. For public relations and strategic marketing scholars, it traces in detail how the press can interplay with paid advertising and staged media events to promote a new technology. In Stubblefield's era, the inventor and his financial backers staged a press demonstration on the banks of the Potomac. Today, public relations firms vie for time on morning network news magazines to push hot new technologies.

This book is a delightful read.

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The United States has its own homegrown Marconis, inventors who staked an early technological claim on ways of communication that dispensed with the annoying need for connecting wires. Amos Dolbear, Mahlon Loomis, and even Alexander Graham Bell all developed competing systems of wireless communication in the late nineteenth century that ran the gamut from the use of induction to light.
 

And then there is the case of Murray, Kentucky's favorite son, Nathan B. Stubblefield, an eccentric farmer and self-taught inventor who died in 1928. Legend has grown up around Stubblefield as the result of a series of inventions, experiments, and media coverage he received in his lifetime, as well as some outrageously self-serving claims made by others after his death.
 

Author Bob Lochte, a professor at Murray State University, has tackled head-on the messy tangle of truth and fiction that surrounds Stubblefield, and attempted to sort out just what's what. The first part of Kentucky Farmer... is a relatively brief factual account of Stubblefield's life and achievements. Ambitious beyond his rural farming background and self-educated about things electrical, Stubblefield made his debut in the fledgling telecommunications realm by supplying telephone services - of a sort - to his neighbors in Murray in the 1880s. His "Vibrating Telephone" was little more than a slightly sophisticated variation on the child's toy of tin cans connected to one another by a taut string. But at a time when Bell's telephone system hadn't yet spread to more rural parts of the country, Stubblefield sold enough of his contraptions to make a living from them for a time.

But the cause of all the controversy that exists to this day has to do with Stubblefield's invention of what amounted to a wireless telephone system that operated via earth conduction using rods inserted into the ground, a device he publicly demonstrated in Washington, Philadelphia, and (unsuccessfully) New York City in 1902. Stubblefield received much media coverage over the system, but Lochte reminds us that others had trod this path before; both William Preece and A. Frederick Collins, for instance, had previously invented (and patented) similar systems to Stubblefield's. At a time when a number of other early wireless pioneers (Lee de Forest pre-eminent among them) willingly engaged in shady stock promotions, Stubblefield, to his great credit, recoiled from the dubious dealings of a promoter with whom he had become involved. Abandoning his efforts to commercially market his earth conduction system of wireless telephony, and after failing to interest the world in an induction coil wireless system, he ended his life a secretive and desperately poor hermit living just outside of Murray.
 

It is here that the second part of Lochte's story begins: the construction of the mythology of Stubblefield as a misunderstood and neglected wireless genius, a process that began during his lifetime but which took off in earnest after his death from malnutrition in March of 1928. Journalists, the civic leaders of Murray, and even Kentucky State politicians relied heavily on gross exaggerations of a few facts and out and out untruths in their efforts to package and market Stubblefield. Enormous misunderstandings arose, for instance, over the fact that, since Stubblefield's earth conduction system employed telephony rather than telegraphy, it must therefore have amounted to the invention of radio. Accordingly, the community of Murray began to heavily identify itself as the "birthplace of radio." Lochte's account of the entire business makes for a fascinating case study in how legends and myths emerge from embellished truths and simple lies.

Bob Lochte has been studying Stubblefield and his legend since 1990. His research even led him and television engineer Larry Albert to build a working replica of Stubblefield's earth conduction telephone system and successfully demonstrate it. If anyone should get the Stubblefield story right, it should be him. And he doesn't disappoint. The thoroughness of his scholarship is evident throughout his book, and the inclusion of Stubblefield's patents in the appendices, as well as reprints of some of the period articles (including one from Scientific American) that helped get the whole Stubblefield myth started, are particularly useful for those who want to see exactly what the fuss has been all about and how it got started. At a time when Nathan Stubblefield's minor (but notable) achievements in early wireless communication have become so overblown as to rank him up there with Nikola Tesla in the eyes of many contemporary conspiracy theorists, Bob Lochte's Kentucky Farmer Invents Radio! proves to be a much-needed and welcome setting straight of the historical record.
 

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Kentucky Farmer Invents Wireless Telephone: But Was It Radio? Facts and Folklore about Nathan Stubblefield appears to be the first book-length treatment on Nathan Beverly Stubblefield, the Kentucky farmer (1860-1928) who some think invented radio before Marconi. A member of the Murray State University faculty, Lochte has gotten behind the local community hype to find out just what the man did and did not accomplish in a series of 1890s and early 1900s demonstrations. Bottom line-Stubblefield did invent a type of conduction point-to-point wireless service, but it was most assuredly NOT broadcasting. What makes this volume so useful is that Lochte has gathered more photos, patent reprints, and other information in one place than anybody else has managed over the years. While his findings won't please some of the Murray Chamber of Commerce types (who love to tout their town as the real birthplace of radio), they surely do place Stubblefield where he belongs-as an early telephone entrepreneur who pursued a wireless dead end. While purists might argue with Lochte's reference to his subject as "Nathan" throughout (they obviously did not know one another), that is a minor complaint for what is really a very well done biographical survey separating wheat from chaff. The peak of Stubblefield's fame came in 1902 when his experiments were written up in several papers. But the story after that is all downhill...to his death from starvation in 1928. Lochte goes an important step further, however, and relates how the myths have grown since 1928, including reprints of oft-cited speeches and articles on which others have drawn. Fascinating stuff.

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Murray State University professor Bob Lochte has separated fact from fiction in his book about Nathan Stubblefield, the Murray resident who many believe invented radio more than 100 years ago.
In Kentucky Farmer Invents Wireless Telephone? But Was It Radio? Facts and Folklore about Nathan Stubblefield, Lochte has researched Stubblefield's somewhat eccentric past, his claims about wireless signals, and how history got a little distorted through the years.
While the book focuses on Stubblefield (Kentucky Monthly, October 1999, page 24), it also presents a concise history of wireless communications.
 

Kentucky Monthly


Attempting to interpret the enigmatic mind of Nathan B. Stubblefield is almost certain to be fruitless but in his new book about the Calloway County genius/eccentric/fraud/recluse/legend, Dr. Bob Lochte discovers, speculates, and interprets more fully than any previous endeavor. He certainly is not the first to be so intrigued by the Stubblefield legend, but he is the first to produce a book which so thoroughly examines, and provides such an unprejudiced look at the life and life's work of this uneducated farmer who for a time captured the attention of much of the nation.
 

Chuck Shuffett, Montage


When a Murray youngster asked Dr. Bob Lochte if it was true that Nathan Stubblefield invented radio, he was speechless. After all the child had heard the lore that the Calloway County melon farmer had bested Guglielmo Marconi, and Murray was the self-proclaimed ?birthplace of radio.?
 

In 1892, Stubblefield created an electromagnetic induction wireless telephone and showed it to his friend Rainey T. Wells. The first words uttered over the device were ?Hello, Rainey.?
 

His curiosity piqued, Lochte ... sifted through collections at the Pogue Library and began piecing together Stubblefield?s life and ?the mind-set of 100 years ago.?
 

Lochte said: ?I don?t think it?s fair to evaluate old technology based on what we know today. People didn?t know that back then. You have to put Nathan into context. Really, most of the people who have found out stuff about Nathan haven?t done an adequate job.?
 

It?s obvious that a lot of folks want to know. They can start here, and if they want to know more, they can get the real documents and photos.

Paducah Sun


Ask anybody in Murray who really invented radio, and you?ll probably hear it was Nathan B. Stubblefield. But Bob Lochte says in his new book that Stubblefield?s inventions were not the forerunners of radio, an assertion that might seem like heresy in Murray.

Even so Stubblefield was not a failure. He did exactly what he intended all along - invent a wireless telephone system. ?Nathan apparently believed that wired telephone service wouldn?t come to rural America for a long time,? Lochte said. ?He was right.?
 

Stubblefield showed his wireless telephone to Murray friends and relatives as early as 1892. Marconi sent the first long-distance telegraphic radio signal three years later.
 

Berry Craig, Associated Press


Two stories are combined in the public?s knowledge of Stubblefield.

Stubblefield invented an acoustic telephone, which probably sounded better than the Bell phone. Once Stubblefield had established himself and was selling telephone systems as far away as Oregon and Washington, a group of doctors in Murray decided to purchase a Bell system, leaving him without a market. Undaunted, Stubblefield came out with a plan to develop a wireless telephone system, thinking if he did not have to run a wire, he could compete with the Bell system. Over the next 20 years, Stubblefield?s only focus was to develop and market a wireless telephone system.

A cousin, Vernon Stubblefield, who had taken care of Stubblefield during that last six years of his life, decided that he was going to connect Stubblefield with radio. At the same time, L.J. Hortin, a journalism professor at Murray State University, was setting up a lab to have student journalists cover events around Murray. Rainey T. Wells, the University President, and Vernon convinced Hortin that Stubblefield was indeed the inventor of radio. Thus began Hortin?s lifelong quest. Despite failed attempts to build a state park in honor of the inventor, he did coin the phrase ?Murray, Kentucky - The Birthplace of Radio,? which could be seen on Chamber of Commerce campaigns until the early 1990?s.

Murray Ledger & Times


According to legend, radio was created in Murray by Nathan B. Stubblefield in 1892. Unfortunately, this simple story has been corrupted and changed into the folklore it is today. Bob Lochte has recently written a book to clarify misconceptions about the life of Stubblefield and his involvement in the creation of a wireless telephone.
 

Lochte, because of his knowledge, received several calls a month from people who could not find all the information they wanted. ?It seemed to me that it would simplify things if folks had a book like this about Stubblefield.? Lochte said.

For his book, Lochte spent many hours working with Larry Albert, WQTV engineer, collecting information from the Pogue Library and reading through files and folders stored in cardboard boxes. The two took the information and constructed a replica of Stubblefield?s model in 1992.

?We didn?t say whether it was a radio or not,? Albert said. ?The book pretty much tells that.?
 

The Murray State News


"Kentucky Farmer Invents Wireless Telephone!" was the resounding headline in the St. Louis Post Dispatch of January 12, 1902. The full-page feature went on to describe Nathan Stubblefield?s marvelous invention. Over the next six months, Stubblefield would demonstrate his wireless telephone at public venues in Washington, Philadelphia, and New York. It could even broadcast to multiple receivers simultaneously. Entrepreneurs created the Wireless Telephone Company of America based on his device. But Stubblefield fell out with his backers and lapsed into obscurity as rapidly as his star had risen. The most famous person ever to come from Murray, Kentucky, died of starvation, alone in a dirt floor shack.

A few months later, a young journalism professor and his students breathed new life into the Stubblefield story. With the encouragement of Stubblefield?s relatives and the president of the college, they disseminated the notion that Nathan?s invention was actually the earliest radio and that Murray was thus ?the birthplace of radio.? So began the legend of Nathan Stubblefield and more than a half century of promotion and boosterism associated with it.

In meticulous detail, Murray State University professor Bob Lochte tells both stories - the facts and the folklore - about Nathan Stubblefield. The text is richly illustrated with more than 50 original photographs from the Stubblefield collections at the Pogue Library and Wrather West Kentucky Museum. As an added bonus for scholars, Lochte has reprinted all of Stubblefield?s US patents and several historically significant documents related to his life and legend.

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« Reply #182 on: November 21, 2007, 09:15:46 AM »
I found this also...for future refference......Bill

1970s 0613 - THE LEDGER & TIMES - 1970: June 13, 1970; Replica Of Nathan Stubblefield 's First Radio On Display At Capitol; Photo: This is an actual photo of Nathan B. Stubblefield and his wireless telephone taken in the early 1900s - EARLY RADIO - Kenneth F. Harper, Commissioner of Public Information and Jim Kincer, recently appointed Director of News and Promotional Services for the Kentucky Department of Public Information, inspect a replica of Nathan B. Stubblefield's wireless telephone. The replica is on display at the capital rotunda. Stubblefield, a native of Murray is the inventor of radio. *NBSWiTel??AFact
? 1970s 0823 - LETTER: August 23, 1970, from MSU, Dr. Hinds, to Bernard Stubblefield. *NBSWiTel??AFact
? 1970s 1001 - LETTER - 1970: October 1, 1970, from Murray State University, Murray, Kentucky 42071, to Bernard Stubblefield.
??? Mr. Bernard B. Stubblefield, P.O. Box 123, Rural Route 2, Florence, Mississippi 39073.
??? Dear Mr. Stubblefield: You will be pleased to know that your trunk and it contents now reside safely in the Stubblefield Repository at the Murray State University Library. President Sparks, himself, came over to see the trunk as it was brought in and displayed much interest in the trunk and its contents. Some pictures were taken and newspaper stories are planned. I will be sure to send you copies when the stories break the news.
??? My work on your father is progressing well and I am in hopes that I will meet my December deadline. I am compiling a list of questions that I have been unable to answer and will one day soon--meaning whenever I can get away from the University--come down to chat with you and to brief you on the progress at this stage.
??? Again I should like to thank you for allowing your father's things to bo placed in the Stubblefield Repository. Also, strictly personally I send to you my sincerest thanks for your efforts toward helping me with the book on your father. I can't say how much I appreciate your channelling inquires from other people up to me; after three years of work on your father I would be rather disturbed if some "Johnny come lately" were to throw together some slip shod and inaccurate work on your father which would create no end of problems in my research. Thanks to your efforts I am certain that will not happen.
??? I trust this letter finds you in good health and that the weather down your way continues to be fair. I'll keep in touch.
??? All good wishes, Thomas O. Morgan, Director of Radio-TV, Assistant Professor of Communications Murray State University. *NBSWiTel??AFact

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« Reply #183 on: November 21, 2007, 12:40:10 PM »
Quote from Bill:
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Pressure wave as in...magnetic...acoustic...or...?  (any or all of the above)

What about flowing water?  Anyone who tried dowsing knows how powerful that radiation can be.  I am preparing to drive electrodes every 12" in my backyard, then compare it with underground water flow to see if there is any coincidence. 

Anyone did some research how to connect them in series?  Does connecting them in parallel will have any effect?

George
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« Reply #184 on: November 21, 2007, 06:36:00 PM »
hello guys, ive just read through the entire thread since last night, im immmensely interested in what you guys are doing, nice 1 for the work put in.

ive come up with a number of points id like to raise:

1, definition for over unity could be:- energy taken to create, start and run(all components) i.e in the sum E(tc)
                                                   energy outputed from device in lifetime ie in the sum E(ofl)

E(tc) divided by E(ofl) = if this sum equals above 1 surely its plus unity? just a suggestion

 2, if stubblefields coil windings are wrapped in cotton and placed in water, would the cotton not absorb the  water and therefore still have a electrically connecting effect due to the lower insulating properties of wet cotton??                                                   

3. sound and resonances. the last couple of threads are touching on sound, my personal belief is the universe is no more than frequencies, that take on chemical combining properties at extremely high frequencies. this idea is unfounded yet, just one of mine, but i have noticed patterns, but have still to confirm it. but i would like to raise a potential of the properties of resonance. if a soundwave reflects directly off the wall, it will lose a small amount of power(amount dependant on surface density) and reflect back and combine with the next incoming soundwave. if this was tuned to the rm resonances, the amount of power multiplies, massively.

what if on the secondary windings you ran a  sound signal, when tuned correctly it may resonate with the earth. i had heard in my looking about, tesla pulsed his coils at 50000hz,

there was guy who raised tuning it to earth, betweeen 0 and 15hz. i reckon this would be wrong, because in those areas of frequency, life cycles and brain waves are tied in. we wouldnt want to mess the planet up any more, by resonating a dangerous frequency. also, the lower the frequency generated, the more power it takes to generate.

im not sure if this is of any help, but i felt i had better mention the ideas rattling around my dusty head, :)
take care guys, keep it up, im looking to go get rods tomorrow, and look into this

Dan

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extra point, in high frequency rf electronics(microwave), they use passive electronics, im not sure if this is the right term, but it has no electrical components, only reaction between different metals, reflected in tuning screws, and gaps in the metalwork, this is tuned to resonate to required bandwidth. appeciably in this system, th rf needs to be generated. but they do use different metals, copper and silver, and resonances.


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« Reply #185 on: November 21, 2007, 06:51:51 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY1eyLEo8_A

or maybe run walter lewins water battery back into the secondary coil? its naturally pulsed and regulated??
just a idea

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« Reply #186 on: November 21, 2007, 09:15:05 PM »
The electrodes DO know which is, as you call it, primary or secondary in series. Remember we have two dissimilar metals, say copper and zink. copper to copper and zink to zink is parallel, copper to zink copper to zink is series with the first zink and the last copper being the terminals.

but if we have: [z]-[c]-[z]-[c] Don't we end up with one big [z]-----[c] and a  short [c]-[z] sitting in the center with it's wires shorted? How do the middle 2 know they are part of a series of batteries?

Does the north south placement fix this problem?

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« Reply #187 on: November 21, 2007, 09:21:28 PM »
It has nothing to do with north south. All galvanic batteries work like this whether they share a common electrolyte or not

Hans von Lieven

Edit call it + and - instead of copper and zink and you see perhaps what I am talking about

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« Reply #188 on: November 22, 2007, 01:26:32 AM »
How about this scenario:

Wind coils like Stubblefield did. with third exciting coil on top.  Connect leads of that third coil to regular pair of electrodes driven into ground to power it up.   Test voltage at primary iron and secondary copper coils to see if we get anything.  If there is voltage,  will connecting them into series create also the same problem we have now with electrodes in the ground?

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« Reply #189 on: November 22, 2007, 02:34:53 AM »
No not really george sorry, umm, we want to step up  not down.. now since this primary is contained within the secondary it could be confusing if your use to seeing say 200 turns of gauge 18 magnet wire with say, 10 turns of gauge 12 on top of the 200 turn coil but same concept just different coil geometry.  In one of the Tesla coils the patent clearly states that it was a flat would spiral coil single layer and we know what the secondary looks like(the tower part) so it would be safe to say some transformers secondaries can partially or completely contain their (primary) exciter coil. Hope that helps, im soldering my voltage multipler circut now and hope to try that out tomorrow.
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« Reply #190 on: November 22, 2007, 06:03:46 PM »
HAPPY Thanksgiving Everyone,
                             If your not an american which i know a bunch of you arent, I would feel obliged if you indulged in at least one drink today and well if theres turkey thats just a bonus. ;D ;D ;D   As well i seriously thought about opening this thread this morning:

" Over unity finally achieved from turkey beak grindings mixed with flour in roster bag"  Apparently by spreading the turkey beak shavings with flower in your roasting bag within 2 hrs after starting your turkey will start producing excess heat which at this point can be used for cold fusion. Thank you.


On second thought ... What the hey

On a real note i finished my voltage doubling circuit and hopefully get to try it out later.
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« Reply #191 on: November 22, 2007, 08:11:13 PM »
Happpy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it.

Localjoe:

Good luck with your circuit.  If it works, let me know I would like to try to replicate it. It is a little cold here today, but not that bad.  I was considering getting some glavanized nails and trying something else with my tree.  Since we think, so far, that more surface area is good for voltage and amps, what about nailing a pattern of about 10 nails into my tree and then wire wrapping them together like on a breadboard so they act as 1 larger nail.  I will then check the potential between the wire wrap and my carbon rod.  This would do a lot less damage to the tree as opposed to one large spike. 

I now have a bunch of various sized caps slavaged from several boards I was saving for just such an occasion. I hope to experiment with them soon as well.  I will drink at least one beer today and toast all of us that are seeking to explore this wonderful area of study.  Cheers.

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« Reply #192 on: November 22, 2007, 08:31:09 PM »
Hey Bill heres a pic of the diagram i used and the webpage was http://www.coolcircuit.com/circuit/voltage/ had some cool stuff i used some black diodes that were 1n4001 similar to 1n914 i think different companies say different names for the same thing and 1n4003 should be fine to i have a bunch of them im only using the same kind of diode with itself not mixing them. I know that any of those three would be fine to use.
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« Reply #193 on: November 23, 2007, 01:16:31 AM »
local joe, can u apply this circuit in parrallel to double current?

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« Reply #194 on: November 23, 2007, 01:26:19 AM »
Possibly Marga ,
 
         I think more diodes would be involved to prevent leakage of the caps into each other on the v out side, not sure tho.
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