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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1294659 times)

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3960 on: October 09, 2011, 08:15:02 AM »
Tish:

Welcome back sir to both this topic, and the US.  We have all missed you and your contributions to the efforts.  Best of luck in getting your house back in order and I am glad you are not in China any more.

Bill

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3961 on: October 09, 2011, 08:53:54 AM »
Bill,
Thanks for the welcome.   I have not thought about the Stubblefield battery since I last posted two years ago.   But, it always helps to have a fresh look at a subject. 

I am having concerns about the internet.   Not to take it for granted.   I am starting to backup subjects I like and save them to external HD.   Between solar flares and comet debris, our satellites are vulnerable.    This is why they are retiring the Space Station, not because of some fake story about the Russian work horse rocket boosters having a problem.   

It would be nice to have some working solutions for energy before TSHF.

Chris

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3962 on: October 09, 2011, 02:59:40 PM »
Ditto the Pirate! Its good to see you back here.  :)

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3963 on: October 09, 2011, 08:21:29 PM »
@ IotaYodi:

Thank you very much.  I have been around just not much time to do anything or post much.

@Tish:

Yes, I agree...the net can be shut down for many reasons including someone in DC not liking what is being said on the internet about him.  Scary times.

Bill

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3964 on: October 09, 2011, 10:14:46 PM »
@ IotaYodi

Thanks

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3965 on: October 10, 2011, 12:42:59 AM »
Tishatang, glad to see you're back!  In an earlier post, you said that you would explain why we should use wood and cotton for the end plates and wrapping.  Can you explain why now, please?  Also, you thought that fiberglass and resin would be OK.  What were you thinking that these would be used for and why?

Thanks and I hope your  "shaky hands" will allow you build an EB soon and help us get this thing really going!

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3966 on: October 10, 2011, 04:56:50 AM »
Hi fathershand,

When you read historical accounts of Stubblefield, witnesses said the surrounding hills would glow, or the ground itself would seem to emit light.   Also, when concerned friends broke into his cabin to find him dead.   The cabin was quite warm with two polished disks radiating the heat.

It dawned on me, that this kind of power could be orgone energy, which glows blue or gives off blue light.   I then looked at the patent images, and sure enough, a cross section of the EB is exactly like an orgone accumulator.

An orgone accumulator is composed of alternate layers of metal and organic substances.  Research Wilhelm Reich.   If this suspicion of mine is true, then we do not want to construct our experimental EB with material that blocks orgone energy.   Plastic blocks orgone, but fibreglass and resin is OK and is used to build orgonite devices.   

I don't think right off the bat we will build an orgone generator.   But, I also don't think that Stubblefield discovered this power right away.   It is
a growth process.   One takes baby steps and little by little energy grows as we make improvements.   However, once an orgone generator is in operation, you start to tap unlimited power.

Chris

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3967 on: October 10, 2011, 05:57:13 PM »
Tish,
You may be right about the orgone. However, I've begun to suspect that the glowing ground around Stubblefield's home had a lot to do with magnetic fields. Mehron Keshe has written that light has its own internal structure, and that it is fundamentally the result of interacting magnetic fields (to put it very, very simply). Keshe maintains that the interaction of magnetic plasmatic fields of planets produces light.  Keshe's technology uses a generated mag-plasmatic field which interacts with the earth's same field to produce various effects (including light).  My thinking is that Stubblefield's coils may have been doing a smilar thing, thereby producing light. Keshe's YT videos will give the proper explanation of what I'm saying in overly simplified terms. See:
http://www.youtube.com/user/keshefoundation
See his Keshe5 video to see what I'm referring to. More info is on the other videos as well as his website:
http://www.keshefoundation.com/home.html
A good recent talk radio interview with him explaining the technology is here:
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/06/RIR-110609.php

In my thinking, there is something to be said for interacting magnetic fields and the production of light, and I think the light-producing effects of buried SBs on Stubblefields property can be considered from this perspective.

As for orgone, perhaps there is a relation, given its bluish light associated phenomena. Here's a YT video to power immediately being harnessed from a Joe Cell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4N32VuWxwc

Perhaps Stubblefield's coils became conditioned after awhile in the ground, and their strengthening magnetic fields interacting with the earth's mag field produced the glow. At the same time, perhaps they were also accumulating orgone, and perhaps at some point, there may be an overlap where both the SB and JC are actually tapping into one single energy source from slightly differing entry points.

Bob

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3968 on: October 11, 2011, 12:00:38 AM »
Bob,
Thanks for turning me on to Keshe's work.   It is amazing that one man discovered what the black ops have known and kept secret since the 1950's.   The power elites will do all they can to keep this technology from going public.   It is too big a game changer.   But, change is in the wind from many different directions.   Perhaps the current power structure in the hands of a few will be over soon?  And, we the people can enjoy modern technology.

To me, Keshe's magnetic plasmas and orgone energy is the same stuff.   Just different names and concentrations of orgone.   What differs is the methods used to concentrate and manage its energy.   The direct tie-in is when Reich pointed his cloudbuster at some stars and they winked out or moved away.   Reich thought we had alien visitors and went to the FBI.   He made a mistake thinking we had an honest government.   This was the real reason he was stopped and his books burned.   The fact he threatened the medical mafia with his healing by the use of the Orgone Accumulator added fuel to the fire.  Orgone is what was powering the spaceships and his cloud buster was sucking the orgone energy out of them.   There was no way the power elites and black ops wanted the secrets of orgone energy cat let out of the bag.  And, the same holds true today.  It is interesting to note that Keshe is using his mag plasma to heal just like Reich with his Orgone energy.   Here is a little bit of history from one of his burned books.

http://journal.borderlands.com/2010/round-robin-does-the-planet-earth-harbor-spacemen/

Hopefully, history does not repeat and Keshe does not end up dead in a jail cell like what happened to Reich.

Regarding the video of the Joe Cell charging a battery.   This could be surface charge?   A better example would be to show the battery trying to light a bulb.   First the dead battery failing and then the recharged battery lighting the bulb.   So, the video does not prove anything, but could have been better with a bulb as a load.   

Chris

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3969 on: October 11, 2011, 12:41:05 AM »
I would like to insert my two cents, because that is probably what it is worth.  Unless someone can clearly show a link between the Stubblefield battery and the "blue light", then it is speculation to put forth the idea of orgone energy, etc.  I think it is better to stick to the scientific method in order to solve the "mystery" of the Stubblefield battery.  Further, lasersabre's youtube channel shows some pretty great work on this EB.  I am still looking to see someone produce an EB or a series pf EBs that produces some significant power, i.e., Voltage X Amperage.

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3970 on: October 11, 2011, 12:48:45 AM »
Chris, thanks for the link to the Borderlands piece on Reich. I'll read it thru. The energy is all around us.  Indigenous cultures use it to heal (e.g., the sobadores of Latin America or Qi Gong practitioners), some concentrate it in the hands to start fires or use as a weapon. There are pure souls like Daniel Pomerleau in Quebec who seem to harness its properties to turn ordinary wire coils into radiant energy access points to light incandescent bulbs. Keely seemed to access its properties through frequency, producing levitation and quantum release of energy. Too bad Stubblefield's secrets were carted away. However, like you say, there are enough people working at this on so many fronts, that perhaps the proverbial dyke's multiplying holes can no longer be plugged or managed. 

Keshe's work is very promising. It was his description of light's internal structure in the RedIce interview that awakened me to what might be happening with Stubblefield's EBs producing light.

Magnetism, gravity, light, electricity, vitality ... all connected...
Bob

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3971 on: October 11, 2011, 09:40:49 AM »
Hi all,
It's been some time since I last posted, (thanks to Pirate and MW383 for encouragement PMs)
Just popping in to say I'm still around, read up the last 10 pages and can see the thread is going great.

On the home front, still walking on floor boards, winter was cool, no benches to make "stuff" let alone cook food but that's what it is like at the moment. Had to sack 2 builders, one didn't show, other went behind my back, it'll be Jan or Feb next year before any work starts on my house.
Just had a phone call from the Mayor, invited him to come calling for a look see, should be interresting ehh.


Hopefully I can pick up from where I left off one year ago.

On the Stubblefield coil, has anyone read the book "The Harmonic Conquest of Space"? http://www.whale.to/m/cathie.html  Bruce Cathie goes into the properties of frequency of Light, Magnetism and the World Electro Magnetic Grids, all very interresting if you can follow it, but as I'm mathmetically impared, I couldn't follow it properly, but I just "know" there are several important keys we could use in the Stubblefield Forum.
I'm sure there are brainer folks here that could see a link up between Stubblefield and the electromagnetic spectrum.


Thanks to all those who have been wondering over the last few months what's been hapenning here, hopefully I can begin posting again soon.

Jim
 

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3972 on: October 11, 2011, 05:17:49 PM »
@electricme
Good to see you post again Jim.  A real bummer for the time line on your house.

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  I'm sure there are brainer folks here that could see a link up between Stubblefield and the electromagnetic spectrum.
No doubt about that. If you laid out the whole electromagnetic spectrum frequencies side by side it would span the US from coast to coast. From what Ive read it only takes 3 frequencies to just make white light and there are a multitude of them to do it. With the electromagnetic spectrum having the duality of both particles and waves its tough to decipher. This would include the Orgone theory being part of the electromagnetic spectrum in my opinion.
Ive always had the question of how the electromagnetic spectrum is made and of course no one really knows. With the confirmation of dark energy that may be its source. If you think about it the Earth interacts with the whole electromagnetic spectrum 24/7.
 With chlorophyll having the ability to process light it may be the reason Stubblefield placed cables on trees, Who knows!

http://library.thinkquest.org/27356/p_index.htm   

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3973 on: October 22, 2011, 12:05:41 PM »
Hi All,

It is my belief that Stubblefield used resonance to achieve his goals.   Most the popular ambient energy devices like Moray, Hendershot, etc, also used resonance.    Two things are needed to get resonance.    A capacitor and an inductor.   The Stubblefield patent is an inductor.   But it is only half the equation, we need the capacitor to make it work.   Unfortunately, the Patent Office made him call it a battery, and most people go no further to explore the possibilities, just looking at the 'battery" by itself.    I don't recall from my readings that Stubblefield called his inductor a battery, but a collector.    I could be wrong and I do not have many of my books now to verify this fact.  But giving something a name is not important.   What is important is how does it work.

You bury the inductor to collect the energies in the earth.     In the earth is DC and there is various AC frequencies.   The trick is to find the frequencies that can be tuned into resonance using a capacitor on the surface.   Stubblefield also used external excitation to stimulate the natural frequencies.   It is the capacitor you tap for your power, not the inductor.   Bedini uses a battery to collect the radiant charges.    A battery can be thought of as a very large capacitor.   Like a battery, a capacitor will also collect a radiant charge.   Some capacitors have been know to generate self charge just by sitting on the shelf, giving surprise shocks. 

Further support of this theory is the two polishes metal plates that were giving off heat to keep Stubblefield's cabin warm.   The two metal plates could easily have been the plates of the capacitor in resonance with the inductor in resonance with the energy supplying the heat energy?  It follows logical thought.

I will try and do some experiments later this Fall.   Unfortunately, I sold my oscilloscope and other pieces of gear that I thought I would not need again.   But, I can do work-a-rounds.   I want to explore the nature of the energies in the earth.   What are those natural frequencies?   How can we stimulate them to yield higher power?  If we know what we are dealing with, maybe we can come up with better designs than what Stubblefield did.
We are dealing with subtle energies here and our modern DVM may not pick them up.   Stubblefield probably used a galvanometer to detect where to place his ground rods.   Either that or he was an expert dowser?

One can make a sensitive galvanometer out of a compass and winding a bunch of fine wire around it.  One can learn about dowsing by videos on youtube or books.   Search Raymon Grace on Youtube and also download "Letter to Robin" pdf on dowsing using google search.   So, I have learning to do.   I did do dowsing once when I went through a flood and had to find my water meter which was buried about 18 inches in compact mud and gravel.   After numerous holes dug with no luck, I finally bent a couple of welding rods into an L shape and paced off looking for it.    First try, the rods moved, I dug down and landed right on top of the meter.   So, it works.  I just learned that Leedskalnin of Coral Castle was an expert dowser.   Perhaps Stubblefield also?

There is also another factor that cannot be discounted.   That is the quantum effect.   You know, where the observer affects the outcome.   Our consciousness can affect the experiment.   One theory is that everything has consciousness, or the field has consciousness.  Another simple way to put it is, the universe wants to please you.   You want light to be either a particle or a wave, OK, you choose.   Want the ground radio station to come in louder, OK.   Want to get power from the earth, OK, give me the chance to please you.   Try to find the right combo of capacitors, inductors and mind set.

Just an update on my thoughts,

tish



 

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3974 on: October 22, 2011, 03:40:40 PM »
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The trick is to find the frequencies that can be tuned into resonance using a capacitor on the surface.   Stubblefield also used external excitation to stimulate the natural frequencies.   It is the capacitor you tap for your power, not the inductor.   
I have been thinking this for awhile. I swear I have seen a photo with a bank of caps sitting next to a large coil of his. The dousing is another thing too. You can find both water and metal, but dousing has never been absolutely proved. With NS putting cables up in trees I would think there is a relationship with the water content in the trees. The aerial electrostatic field has slightly more positive ions than negative ions. I wonder how this plays into the bag of apples as far as being used for Voltage or Amps in an electrostatic coil. Then there are the radioactive materiel's in the ground which includes radon gas. That makes me think of how a florescent light works.   
 I ordered this pulse generator from England. Been wanting to do magnetic pulse experiments. If you have any ideas on experiments with the NS coil using this please let us know. 
http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/cyber-circuits/pulse-generators/power-pulse-modulator-ocb/prod_41.html
 

 

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