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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1500081 times)

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #285 on: December 01, 2007, 04:01:43 AM »
@ Yaz:

Great link!  This appears to me to be combining both the earth battery (telluric currents) and the interception of radio waves in the air, both man made and natural.  His voltage output was impressive.  We will have to add this into the mix and see what the experimenters can do.  Have you tried any of this yet?  Can you invite the guy from that link to our topic here?  The more minds and ideas, the better.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
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« Reply #286 on: December 07, 2007, 10:29:59 PM »
G'day all,

Here is something I found on Tesla that is relevant. This is clearly about the project he was running with Stubblefield.

Tesla vs. Hertz

Tesla was not a theoretician by calling, but he made plenty of observations on the electrical nature of the universe that put him at odds with of official theory. In fashion then (and even now) was the theory of Heinrich Hertz, an interpreter of the physics of James Maxwell. Hertz explained radio propagation as transverse waves akin to light. Tesla was convinced that radio disturbances were standing waves in the ether akin to sound. When you drop a pebble into water, the disturbances you see in the form of concentric circles are standing waves.

Both Tesla and Hertz assumed the existence of an aetheric medium, but differed as to its energy transmitting properties. Tesla believed that the ether was a gas like medium, that electric propagation was very much like that of sounds in air, alternate compression's and rarefaction's of the medium, and that Hertzian waves could only take place in a solid medium. Tesla once said that Hertz waves are radiation and that no energy could be economically transmitted to a distance by any such agency. He said, In my system, the process is one of true conduction which can be effected at the greatest distance without appreciable loss.

When quantum physics and particle theory came into vogue, the aetheric medium was dropped out of electric theory altogether, but Hertz's theory was more compatible with the new concepts of propagation and therefore survived. By way of rubbing this in, the unit of frequency, formerly cycles per second (cps), was renamed in honor of Hertz (Hz), while only an obscure unit of magnetic flux density remembers Tesla. It is in respect to Tesla that I have reverted to the old unit in this book. Hertzian radio is straight-line, light-like radiation's that bounce off hills and mountains. Long distance Hertzian transmissions are explained in terms of radiation's bouncing off a radio reflective upper layer called the ionosphere. Tesla thought this was all nonsense and declared in 1919 that Hertzian thinking has stifled creative effort in the wireless art and retarded it for 25 years. Hertzian radio is aerial.

Most of us are conditioned to thinking in terms of aerial radio; the air waves, on the air. Tesla's radio is grounded; the lower end of the energized coil is rooted in the earth. Pure Hertzian radio has no such natural load. Tesla doesn't speak of antennas as such; the element he places aloft is an elevated capacity. Tesla said radio devices should be designed with due regard to the physical properties of this planet and the electrical conditions obtaining in same. Grounded radio is indeed more powerful than the Hertzian aerial. But this is true particularly for the frequencies Tesla was using. The higher frequencies do behave in a Hertzian manner. Yet grounding is all but a lost concept in consumer electronics. Up through the 1940's, AM radio receivers customarily had a terminal one was encouraged to connect to a cold water pipe or other deep earth connection. Ground the chassis of any of today's receivers, and, unless there is some kind of interference coming up through the ground (from fluorescent circuits, light dimmers, which are oscillators, or from the local Tesla coil), you will usually improve signal strength and range.

Among Tesla's contributions to radio was remote control. Tesla demonstrated a radio-controlled boat before crowds at Madison Square Gardens and sent another robot craft 25 miles up the Hudson River. Grounded radio works particularly well through water. Tesla's basic radio tuning tank circuit for receiving (coil plus capacitor between antenna and ground) was, and is, all by itself, a powerful signal amplifier, and a beautifully simple one, at that. But as radio developed over the years, the tank circuit shrank in size and the result was a loss in gain. This was compensated for by the addition of stage upon stage of complex amplification circuitry.

Tesla watched this development with bewilderment. Tesla knew that the most efficient long-distance radio took place in the lower frequencies, especially those close to the earth-resonant frequency. Frequencies well below the AM broadcast band were the favored ham frequencies in the early days prior to World War I. In fact, waves of 600 meters (500 kc) were considered short while considered fairly long were the waves of 1200 meters (25 kc). Like a lot of good real estate, many of these more radio-effective frequencies below the AM broadcast band have been appropriated for military use, but also for navigation beacons, weather stations, and time registers.


Source: http://www.frank.germano.com/lost_inventions.htm

Hans von Lieven

EDIT: On another page on the same website:

These are the words of Nikola Tesla, spoken in 1937; (part of a larger speech)

One of my most important discoveries--terrestrial resonance--which is the foundation of wireless power transmission and which I announced in 1899, is not understood even today. Nearly two years after I had flashed an electric current around the globe, Edison, Steinmetz, Marconi, and others declared that it would not be possible to transmit even signals by wireless across the Atlantic. Having anticipated so many important developments, it is not without assurance that I attempt to predict what life is likely to be in the twenty-first century.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #287 on: December 08, 2007, 03:20:35 AM »
@ Hans:

Once again, excellent information, thank you.  From what I have read of Tesla, the earth can and does act as a meduim for signal transmissions. (ie energy?) It is very interesting to me that he knew, even then, the resonant freq. of the earth. (very low)

@mramos:

I agree.  I have been following the Stiffler experiments and have always been wondering how we can tie this to the earth battery experiments we are working on here.  Please let us know of your results.  There are a lot of good minds here and I think we can get a handle on this thing before too long.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #287 on: December 08, 2007, 03:20:35 AM »
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« Reply #288 on: December 08, 2007, 04:49:32 AM »
@ Hans:

Once again, excellent information, thank you.  From what I have read of Tesla, the earth can and does act as a meduim for signal transmissions. (ie energy?) It is very interesting to me that he knew, even then, the resonant freq. of the earth. (very low)
Bill

It is no surprise to me that Tesla knew the what is called now resonant frequency of earth about 7.8 Hz (Schumann resonance). With his earthquake machine he would have had to go much. much lower than this to cause the effects he did.

I seriously doubt though that Tesla was referring to the Schumann resonance.

According to Wikipedia: The fundamental mode of the Schumann resonance is a standing wave in the Earth-ionosphere cavity with a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth.

I think that Tesla was referring to the resonnant frequency of the ENTIRE MASS OF THE EARTH, which would have to be much lower.

How he cottoned on to this and how he measured it with the instruments of the day is an enigma to me.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #289 on: December 08, 2007, 05:02:16 AM »
Hey Guys!
  Interesting topic. I was doing some in-depth reading on earth battery experiments awhile back and I remember that they,
 ( I don't remember who), were sending a charge into the ground to get it going- like a syphon I guess. After that they would get a greater charge that would keep giving and get larger with time. I don't know if it works or helps but I thought i'd mention it.-JT

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #290 on: December 08, 2007, 05:04:54 AM »
Good memory JT,

This is indeed what they claimed. The same idea is also reflected in the Barbat patents.

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« Reply #291 on: December 12, 2007, 07:58:35 PM »
G'day all,

Have a look at this gentlemen and let me know what you think. Interesting document. (about 12 pages or so)

http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/forsale/plans/earthbattery/ebpage1.htm

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #292 on: December 12, 2007, 11:49:10 PM »
@ Hans:

Fantastic find!!!  I just read the entire thing.  I don't know if this guy is right about everything he says but it gives us more information for our work here. Great job.

Bill

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« Reply #293 on: December 13, 2007, 09:01:22 PM »
G'day Gentlemen,

Have a look at this one. This video was created by Mark Snowswell.

About it he says:

I came up with this idea a little while back and figured it was time to make it public...

The attached video describes how charge applied to a Toroidal Bi-filar Capacitor (TBC) will result in an electrostatic pulse traveling around the centre of the toroidal path in sync with the TBC charge front.


Classical EM analysis shows that you get complimentary electro static field's (ESF) inside and outside a TBC. These ESF's occur and follow the pulse front as the TBC charges up. The animation depicts the generation of the ESF pulse generated inside the TBC. Not shown is the complimentary ESF that surrounds the pulse front on the outside.

The idea is that the ESF pulse drives a current pulse along a central accumulator. In an operational device the TBC would be made in 4 segments with each segment firing sequentially -- triggered by the pulse arriving from the previous segment. You could also try a segmented accumulator (collector) with each segment connected to the next TBC segment.


To which I wrote back:

Thanks Mark.

Brilliant animation and reasoning.

I take it that this does not only apply to a toroid coil but would equally apply to a standard coil wound in this manner. Like the Stubblefield coil for instance.

Is this correct?

Hans von Lieven


Mark's answer to my question was:

Yes. When pulse charging any bifilar capacitor there will be a ESF pulse that travels down the center of the coil. There is also an oposing polarity circular ESF pulse that travels down the outside of the coil.

Mark.


The video is here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2764.0;attach=15283

This fits in very nicely with my overall idea how Stubblefield's system works.

Hans von Lieven

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« Reply #293 on: December 13, 2007, 09:01:22 PM »
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #294 on: December 14, 2007, 03:17:00 AM »
Hi All,

For those of you who do get 1.1-1.2 volts at low current (5ma or more) - here's how to get it up to 5V.

http://www.talkingelectronics.com/projects/PowerSupply5vSolar/PowerSupply5vSolar.html

(http://www.talkingelectronics.com/projects/PowerSupply5vSolar/images/5vSolarAuto.gif)

It's stolen from another site made to convert a solar cell to 5V for a data logger.
Actually this is maybe more interesting, it explains how to power a pulsed LED garden light from a very small voltage: http://www.talkingelectronics.com/projects/SolarLight/SolarLight.html

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« Reply #295 on: December 15, 2007, 01:11:49 AM »
Akashh:

Do you think this circuit would work?  Thanks for posting it.  Has anyone tried it yet?  I'll see if I have the stuff here to build it.

Hans:

In the system shown in the video...where would the pulses come from?  Would they need to be manual/mechanical or electronic as from a chip of somekind?  If electronic, what type of chip/timer would be required?  The more I learn the more I realize what I don't know.  The wire coil looked to be using two insulated wires or am I not correct on that?

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #296 on: December 15, 2007, 03:09:15 AM »
@Bill:  Yes it should work although I have not built it.  The second link is a standard circuit used in most LED garden lights, and the first seems to be a take on that.  Just have to get the coil winding right. Let me know how it goes, I'm going to try building one too but I cannot find the right ferrite bead at the moment.
Actually, this is more what we need - the other circuit would only switch on at night.
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« Reply #297 on: December 15, 2007, 09:10:53 AM »
i have not read all of the posts here but i have gotten a good start. i have a lot of random information rattling inside my head but i hope in this daze of sleep deprived drunken confusion i can manage to get it out coherently.

i have been experimenting with the john hutchison crystal battery and started a bit with tesla's wireless. so far i have not been able to harness any wireless electricity from tesla but from the crystal battery i found a couple of interesting points.   my setup is a film canister roughly a c-d sized cell battery type full of sand and salt water. this with aluminum foil electrodes (both from non stick aluminum foil in the house) generated a voltage that slowly decreased over the course of about 4 hours (roughly) it started at .8 and reached .2 before i stoped the experiment. i do not know the current i fear my cheep volt meter is fried for current reading. but it did carry a load of 50k ohm for that short time and also generated hydrogen gas (very little) i found later that the aluminum was rusted or oxidized. i believe magnesium reacts with most metals and caused this (magnesium is in table salt if i remember correctly) so what i created was really just a crazy battery. not sure if it helps but to point in a possibly negative area, there are some eliments that will generate electricity even if the electrodes are the same material (not supposed to happen by science according to a high school teacher) i seen mention of batteries and what makes the voltage or current, according to what i have read each chemistry in a battery (the metals used for electrodes and the electrolyte used) determins a specific voltage for that battery. a lead acid has a specific or characteristic voltage of 2 volts (6 cells in a car battery) and alkaline batteries 1.5 nimh batteries are 1.25 i believe. so our chemistry should determin the volts and the conductor or electrode area determins the current.  but then this is modern battery science not earth creative science.......  they dont account for magnetic flux, solar flares, radio transmitions,  if someone turned on a major appliance, lightning or other effects.

on a side note, i like quartz, if you put a fluctuating voltage in it resonates. if you put a radio frequency in it generates a current..  the only sad part is i cant figure out how to get it to generate the current without the antena  ???   oh and i did a control experiment, i used salt and quartz sand same as before but without the water, i cooked it on the stove. it didnt generate any voltage.  water seems to be needed to do anything here.

also, there was mention of a ham radio operator who got a lot of voltage off of a antena and ground? has anyone played with a combination of antena and ground?  seems to me there would be a greater difference available there than with the ground alone.

hope my ramblings are in some way useful.


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« Reply #298 on: December 15, 2007, 04:35:52 PM »
try this,flat carpenters pencil for positive,zink or roofing nail for neg,solution of regular bleach,and white vinegar,table salt got over 2 volts, voltage with plain water also but not much.
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« Reply #299 on: December 15, 2007, 07:22:28 PM »
@ Artic Knight:

I believe I was the one that posted about radio talk show host Art Bell and his Ham antenna set up in the high desert of Nevada.  He was getting so much voltage that he was frying his equipment left and right.  Also, this was the desert so no chance of water being the electrolite there, as some say all of this is just pure galvanic reaction.  I agree that possibly using an antenna array along with the earth "ground" may allow for much better energy collection.  I think someone somewhere (Russia perhaps) is doing just that and I believe there is a post or two on here that refers to it.  I am getting voltages off of a tree in front of my place in an experiment mentioned on here earlier as well.  Maybe the trees are acting as antennas in some way?  Funny thing is, my tree at least, is neg. and the earth ground then becomes pos. (Using my carbon rod)  I'd have to look it up but I believe I was getting 1.25 vdc.  I am still awaiting the arrival of my 40 or so leds I ordered from Asia a while ago.  I want to see how many I can light at once and I am also going to attempt to build the voltage amp. that akashh posted.

I have been following Hutchison for years and I like his "energy cells" made from stuff he finds outside and cooks in his oven.  I think the sand you mentioned, quartz, is interesting.  Have you been following the pyramid experiments thread where they have a coil set up under a pyramid that uses sand in copper pipes and carbon rods?  In the end, if there is an end, I think we will discover that all of this is related in some "unified" way.

@Jrader:

Try the same setup outside aligned along the north/south meridian and see what you get.  Keep your polarity the same.  Stab around in the ground to find the true polar n/s in your area (highest vdc reading) and then try increasing the distance between electrodes and watch the volts go up.  At a certain point, around 5 feet for me, it will stabilize or begin to drop off.  Let us know of your readings.  Thanks.

Bill

 

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