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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1592871 times)

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #255 on: November 27, 2007, 07:32:17 AM »
Hans:

Thanks for the info on the glass, I didn't think it did either but, I was not sure.  The reason I know a little about Americium is from a book I read entitled "The Radioactive Boy Scout".  This was a true story about a very smart kid going for his Eagle Scout rating.  He decided to make a nuclear reactor for his project.  Long story short, he obtained 100 smoke detectors in a sale from a store going out of business and rigged up a block of lead with a grove cut into it and put his Americium lump ( he managed to melt it together) and bombarded some pitchblend with the resulting focused rays.  He did this at his grandmother's house where he was staying for the summer.  He left this experiment in the shed behind the house and all but forgot about it.  Well, and, as I said, I am not a nuclear physics person, but after a few weeks, this somehow made plutonium in a very rich state.  It set off alarms of those that monitor such things (probably a satelite?) and they had to evacuate the entire neighborhood during the cleanup.  It seems his method was very efficient, much more than he knew. He did not get his merit badge.  I might be wrong about the plutonium but, it made something so highly radioactive that it was picked up by detectors many miles away. (He was in NY state.)  This is a great book and I can find the author if you would like.

Lead is a good shield for radioactivity is it not?  Could one make a device and use lead as a shield?  The apparatus in the picture was great except, how radioactive was it?  Maybe only a small amount?  Stubblefield died of starvation not cancer or radiation poisoning so a little bit of this stuff can't be that bad.  Does Homeland Security monitor this site? (Too late to ask now, ha ha)

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #256 on: November 27, 2007, 09:06:23 AM »
I just inform you that I am success with Tesla's greatest work 'wheelwork of nature' and 'cosmic ray energy'.
You can found my last thoughts on my page (in bottom part):

http://free-ri.htnet.hr/Branko/02.html

It is real source of energy!
For now it is just embryo, and only first step, but I think it is step to right direction.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #257 on: November 27, 2007, 09:09:54 AM »
I think Branko's post was spam.  I have seen the same message in like three other topics, verbatum.  I went to the site and didn't see anything I would consider useful.  but, that is just my humble opinion.


Bill

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« Reply #258 on: November 27, 2007, 10:11:09 AM »
No, it is not spam. It is my life work with Nikola Tesla experiments. Yes, I put this on some other places, because information is important. System is based on collecting energy from air, but without balloons like in Hermann Plauson system. Only differences is that my (or Tesla's) system has not balloons.


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« Reply #259 on: November 27, 2007, 06:45:49 PM »
@ Branko:

My sincere apologies.  I certainly did not intend to insult your life's work.  I went back to your site and did some reading.  There are a lot of interesting ideas and experiments there.  I am glad you posted your response or I would have passed it by. I guess I am just a little sensitive to "spam" as I have been getting a lot of it lately on several sites. I should not have jumped to that conclusion with your post.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #260 on: November 27, 2007, 06:54:57 PM »
G'day Bill and all,

This is a lovely story about the kid with the americium, though it is unlikely to be true as stated. (but then it would be, they would not like anyone to replicate what the kid really did)

There are only 0.2 microgram of americium in a typical smoke detector. In this small quantity it is only an alpha emitter. In order to get the required gamma rays for the kind of reaction the kid was creating you would need something in the order of 3 to 4 grams of the stuff. In that quantity it is seriously hot and requires careful handling. Incidentally, critical mass is about 60 kilograms. You can imagine how many smoke detectors you would have to cannibalise in order to get a gamma emitter, a mere 100 would get you nowhere.

But back to the device under discussion.

I am not convinced that you need a large radioactive source in order to get the postulated effect. We are NOT talking about a nuclear reaction as far as I can tell from my studies so far. If Barbat is to be believed you don't need radioactive material at all, photons will do.

According to Barbat if you took the device, coated the secondary coil with cuprous oxide and replaced the U 238 vial with a light-globe it would still work.

But as I said before it is still early days and a bit more studying is required before we can start experimenting.

The radioactive material however would be better since it does not need a power source and will last for about four hundred years or so. (Americium 241, the stuff commonly used in smoke detectors, has a a half-life of 432.7 years.)

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #261 on: November 28, 2007, 12:24:55 AM »
Greetings,
Has anyone tried to experiment with coils buried in the ground yet?  I am waiting for wire I ordered and want to try it before I start looking for radioactive materials. ;D
George

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« Reply #262 on: November 28, 2007, 02:15:29 AM »
@Branko: great website!  very nice collection of thoughts and diagrams.  Do you have any experience with coils?  Maybe u could suggest some design for our earth batteries.

@all: two ideas
1) From wikipedia: Granite is a normal, geological, source of radiation in the natural environment. Granite contains around 10 to 20 parts per million of uranium. By contrast, more mafic rocks such as tonalite, gabbro or diorite have 1 to 5 ppm uranium, and limestones and sedimentary rocks usually have equally low amounts. 
What about trying to stick a lump of granite at the core of our coil?

2) If anyone else is following the thread on coils & self-runnung LEDs? http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3599.0.html
I have got an LED to blink for 5 minutes on the first try.  A tiny charge source such as an earth battery would easily be able to keep this guy chraged provided we can getthe correct voltage using some step-up system...

Akash

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« Reply #263 on: November 28, 2007, 03:59:25 AM »
@ George:

I have not, as of yet.  But, I am getting closer.  Has anyone else?

@akashh:

This is very interesting information.  I would like to see what Hans has to say about this.  I have been following the Dr. Stiffler replication.  Is that the link you posted?  Some very strange and wonderful things happening there that yes, could prove useful to our experiments. (Sorry, I can't check the link right now, but I will after this post.)

@ Hans:

Yes, I agree totally.  I was not sure what the actual materials and numbers were in the book but, you are correct.  If he found a way to make plutonium or at least, a very hot material of somekind, they would NOT want us, the public to know about it. (or at least how he did it) Oh and critcal mass of americium is 60 kilograms?  So, that means that 61 kg would be bad, right? (Boom!)

I like the photon approach better.  Can't we use the sun in some way to get the photons?  Or, can we get enough power out to power a "photon generator" that will continue the cycle?  This is great, thanks Hans.

Bill

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« Reply #264 on: November 28, 2007, 04:02:22 AM »
@ akashh:

No, I see the link is to the tpu experiments.  I have not viewed all of the posts yet but will do so now.  Thanks for posting it.

Bill

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« Reply #265 on: November 28, 2007, 04:46:07 AM »
G'day fellows,

I was wondering how long it would take before someone spotted the link between our research and the TPU and Stiffler circuits. It is all part of the same phenomenon I think, the fundamentals of which I am trying to track down.

For me it is a bit early to get into this yet, I have not a lot to base it on so far, but the gut feel is there and since I seem to be progressing very nicely following it I will continue to do so.

A bit more research on literature and then I will try to design a series of experiments to determine just what is going on, if anything.

Keep the faith fellows, it's still early days.

Hans von Lieven

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« Reply #266 on: November 28, 2007, 06:06:14 AM »
Hans:

I very much look forward to any experiment ideas you come up with.  Although, I have to say that I hope none of them involve a 4 legged stool. (Smile)  In my humble mind, the tie I see here thoughout all of this, Dr. Stiffler, Keeley, Tesla, Stubblefield, TPU, etc, is resonance.  I think this is the single thread connecting all of these different technologies. And yes Hans, it is early days for sure.  I am glad I am here for it.

Bill

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« Reply #267 on: November 28, 2007, 06:12:37 AM »
Your humble mind is right on the money Bill.

Just consider one thing though, what if resonance has SHAPE !

Hans

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« Reply #268 on: November 28, 2007, 06:41:51 AM »
Hans:

That's brilliant!!!  I love this.  You are making me THINK which is something my teachers and professors could not seem to accomplish.  Ok, the radiation thing.  Radiation is nothing more than particles being emitted by a substance correct?  Well, if you have moving particles then you have rate or a frequency of their emission and, if that freq. happens to be a resonant freq. of the particles (ie electrons) moving in a wire or coil, or, a harmonic thereof, then you get the added boost that we all know that resonance can produce.  Could this be what Helmholtz and the others were driving at? I 100% believe that resonance has shape.  Resonance is waves and I have seen them in the ocean.  We also see "shapes" on the oscilloscope as in the Dr. Stiffler idea, although man made but still a representation of the phenomenon.  So, I would say that resonance has "shapes" plural.  I really hate to say this but maybe particle emission from radiation "leads out" multiples of electronic current in a coil through resonance.  That is why I think your photon idea will work.  It probably does not matter where the pulse comes from, but it has to be the right pulse at the right time.  If I ever get to Australia, I will buy you a beer.

Bill

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« Reply #269 on: November 28, 2007, 07:18:14 AM »
OK Bill,

Now take it one step further, what if that shape is multidimensional. In other words more than 3D. Who knows what is out there it could be heterodyning with as long as the shape is right.

Unlimited energy, just as Tesla and Keely said.

Hans