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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1325315 times)

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #165 on: November 20, 2007, 07:36:21 PM »
The electrodes don't know which is primary or secondary in series. You would end up with 1 earth battery and another one that is shorted out. But parallel you get zero. ok, that does explain why one would charge a row of cap's separately. Then when the caps are charged you can discharge them in any grid mix of parallel and series. I'm a bit confused on the overunity forum as I'm always interested in the combination of devices. Then have to take topics off topic it seems. lol I've seen people use pulsed coils and motors using dead batteries, like with no current just a bit of volts. The earth battery seems to deliver much better seed energy to feed this kind of devices. A dead battery does deliver good proof but it would be nice to have a bit bigger input as that. (using some kind of free energy of course) Can't one power a Newman machine with a bunch of caps? Or one of Mr Bedini's variations? Those give enough clean amp to charge a battery do they not?

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Re: Earth battery expermients
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #166 on: November 20, 2007, 07:42:41 PM »
G'day guys.

I have to go back to my earlier post, I have just remembered something which might be of importance here. When talking about Stubblefield contaminating the earth I quoted:

? ? It wasn't until 1906 when their son Tesla died teething on a potato from one of the RF antenna "hotspots," -- that they realized that it could have been the RF antenna "hotspots," mixtures of Pitchblende, salt crystals and other active metals that created the healthy looking but tainted vegetable gardens.

I missed it on the first reading through but then I remembered what Pitchblende is. It is an old fashioned German term for a mineral that is now known as Uraninite.
 IT IS RADIOACTIVE !

Now what the f*ck was Stubblefield doing with radioactive materials and what has this to do with the earth batteries.

This is getting weirder every day! I am having a fine time researching this.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #167 on: November 20, 2007, 07:52:45 PM »
The electrodes don't know which is primary or secondary in series. You would end up with 1 earth battery and another one that is shorted out. But parallel you get zero. ok, that does explain why one would charge a row of cap's separately.


Have a look at the Dieckmann and Emme patents that Bill listed on the previous page . They show series arrangements of earth batteries.

Incidentally you have a similar arrangement in a 12 Volt car battery where there are several cells sharing a common electrolyte. Galvanic cells typically produce no more than 1.5 Volt.

Hans von Lieven

EDIT  Sorry Gaby, I missed part of it. The electrodes DO know which is, as you call it, primary or secondary in series.

Remember we have two dissimilar metals, say copper and zink. copper to copper and zink to zink is parallel, copper to zink copper to zink is series with the first zink and the last copper being the terminals.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2007, 08:18:34 PM by hansvonlieven »

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Re: Earth battery expermients
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #168 on: November 20, 2007, 07:59:03 PM »
@ Hans:

Yes, exactly!  Pitchblende was what Madam Curie used as a radioactive source in order to isolate the polonium and radium from uranium  in her research.  I know that it occurs naturally in North America but, as far as I know, only in the northern lattitudes...upstate N.Y., Canada, etc. I never heard of it here in Kentucky.  Uranium would most assuredly have an effect on the potato patch. (NOT GOOD!)  Hey Hans, it said "Healthy looking but tainted vegetable garden."  I'll be the radioactivity made for some huge, fast growing vegetables no?  I'm sorry I missed this the first time around.  Glad you caugt it.  I'll have to read more slowly and carefully.

It would be interesting to take a geiger counter over to his original site, I'll bet is goes....click,click,click,click....

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #169 on: November 20, 2007, 08:09:32 PM »
This stuff would have been removed by now. From what I can gather Stubblefield's site is now the Murray State University, which incidentally has a collection of Stubblefield papers, letters and so forth, perhaps even the odd device.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #170 on: November 20, 2007, 09:17:33 PM »
pitchblende (radioactive) + copper coils = magnification = William N. Barbat

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #171 on: November 20, 2007, 09:33:06 PM »
Thanks for the information tak,

Here is the link to Barbat's invention http://www.rexresearch.com/barbat/barbat.htm

Fascinating stuff, this might explain a lot!

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #172 on: November 20, 2007, 09:47:01 PM »
Quote from Barbat:

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This disclosure introduces a technical field in which practical electrical energy is created in accordance with the overlooked exception to the energy-conservation rule that Herman von Helmholtz described in his 1847 doctrine on energy conservation: "If . . . bodies possess forces which depend upon time and velocity, or which act in directions other than lines which unite each pair of material points, . . . then combinations of such bodies are possible in which force may be either lost or gained ad infinitum." A transverse inductive force qualifies for Helmholtz's ad infinitum rule, but this force is not sufficient of itself to cause a greater energy output than input when applied to electrons of normal mass due to their unique charge-to-mass ratio. However, the increased acceleration of conduction electrons of less-than-normal inertial mass, as occurs in photoconductors, doped semiconductors, and superconductors, is proportional to the normal electron mass divided by the low electron mass, and the magnification of harnessable inductive energy is proportional to the greater relative acceleration, squared.


 Magnetic force also satisfies Helmholtz's exemption to the energy-conservation rule because magnetic force is transverse to the force that causes it, and magnetic force is determined by the "relative velocity" (i.e., perpendicular to the connecting line) between electric charges. Magnification of magnetic force and energy was demonstrated by E. Leimer (1915) in the coil of a speaker phone and in the coil of a galvanometer when he irradiated a radio antenna-wire with radium. A 10-milligram, linear radium source produced a measured 2.6-fold increase in electrical current in the antenna-wire in comparing inaudible radio reception without radium to audible reception with radium. This represented a (2.6).sup.2=7.times. increase in electrical energy flowing through the respective wire coils. The possibility of this enhanced reception being attributed to a person's body holding the unit of radium to the wire was eliminated by Leimer's additional observation that, whenever the orientation of the small radium unit was changed to approximately 30 degrees relative to the wire, the energy enhancement ceased.

Helmholtz again!

This gets wilder and wilder. Keely's and to some degree Tesla's work is largely based on Helmholtz's discoveries, so it would appear is Stubblefield's.

We are really opening a can of worms here, the implications of which are at present beyond my comprehension.

Hans von Lieven


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« Reply #173 on: November 20, 2007, 10:07:05 PM »
Hans:

This is fantastic!!!!  My head is reeling and I will need to go back and read all of this again.  Who the heck knows what will turn up next? Started with pipes in the ground, electrodes, Stubblefield, Keely, Tesla, Hemholtz, radioactivity, trees, poison potatos, and......?

Localjoe, you may have started something here that might take us all beyond anything we ever even considered before.  We can keep the technology open source, but I think we should SELL the book and movie rights...ha ha.

I have to go out on an assignment now but I can't wait to check this topic when I return.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #174 on: November 20, 2007, 10:30:26 PM »
Don't hold your breath Bill,

I have some serious reading and thinking to do. :-) It might take a while.

Hans

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #175 on: November 21, 2007, 02:45:09 AM »
Good sleuthing...  however exciting as it is, that's where my interest in experimentation ends.  If it turns out we need to use blocks of radioactive stuff, I'll stick with solar and wind.  But it definitely does explain a lot about what stubblefield used to excite his weird little coil.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #176 on: November 21, 2007, 05:27:15 AM »
Don't give up on it yet akash,

There is a lot more to it than appears even now. Keely did not use radioactive material neither did Helmholtz or Tesla, and if my hunch is right there are other ways to excite the coils than using radioactivity.

The closest thing to radioactive bombardment is a pressure wave. Just bear this in mind.

It's early days yet.

Hans von Lieven

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« Reply #177 on: November 21, 2007, 05:42:25 AM »
Hans:

Pressure wave as in...magnetic...acoustic...or...?  (any or all of the above)  I agree that it is way to early to "give up" or form any conclusions at this point.  Hell, we are just getting started. I picked up two book from the local library on my way home that had ref. to Stubblefield in them.  Each book only had a chapter each.  It was the same old bio/background stuff, nothing new to report.  "One book did say that all of his equipment and devices have disappeared."  I hope this is not true.  I want to see what the Stubblefield museum has in their archives and inventory.

Bill

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« Reply #178 on: November 21, 2007, 05:54:09 AM »
No Bill, it is not true, I have seen reports of people seeing some of his devices in a local museum. Perhaps someone at the university can tell you where the stuff is kept.

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« Reply #179 on: November 21, 2007, 05:57:15 AM »
Hans:

I'm on it.  This is where being an investigator might really pay off.  Also, I am here in Kentucky which I think is fortuitous.

Bill

 

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