the simple answer is CONTROL.
it's not even about money, but control of the people to keep us slaves.
free energy is bigger than guns, money, gangs, etc.
hmmm no wonder they suppress these kind of technologies.
its sad too because most people have no clue of what free energy is or that it is even possible because it's been suppressed for generations.
it's gotten so bad that if you show the average person a free energy machine they wont know what to do with it, they will probably tell you to take it back because they have to be at work at 7 in the morning ;)
but the good news is that it seems more and more people now is waking up. :)
well yes this is why people are now waking up, because of the internet...
and im not talking about wind, solar, hydro, etc, but real free energy technologies. technologies that are self sustaining, more out than in, over unity.
peace :)
well yes this is why people are now waking up, because of the internet...
and im not talking about wind, solar, hydro, etc, but real free energy technologies. technologies that are self sustaining, more out than in, over unity.
peace :)
But you must see the contradiction. Wind, water and solar are equally damaging to the big energy companies. Surely these would be suppressed also, if the goverment was in a suppressing mood.
What is suppressed - or would be suppressed is technology that would allow someone to generate enough power to be self-sufficient.
If you could generate unlimited power... then you could move, build, transport, light, heat, cool, and even make water out of the air. You could grow your own food year round. You would be completely free.
Aside from whether that technology is possible... the fact is that certain people in this world would kill to stop it... because it would mean an end to their domination of others.
Hello shruggedatlas,
You are totally sick if you do not beleive that free energy has not been held up. Free energy is alltogather different than wind or solor power. Free energy would bring down the big guys to our level.
Later,,,,,,JackH
If the government wanted us to harness free energy like the sun, they would mandate lower costs to produce these free energy items.
Hello linda933,
Well here I go. Yes I have been treatened around 21 times on the phone. As far as NY and as close as my home town. I have been told that to stop on the motor or I would be killed. Also the last two times I was called it was on my cell phone, I dont now how they got my cell phone number. The last two times I was to stop on the motor or my shop would be burnt.
I have placed 5 camerias around the shop to watch it, I have a camera on my drive way to watch out for how comes up my drive way. Yes I am very carefull when I go to the shop, I take a 357 magnum with me, I keep the door locked and I allways look at the cameras before answering the door.
I viseted the shareffs office and the phone numbers were un-traceable, All they could tell me was where they come from.
Later,,,,,,,JackH
And do not forget to always wear the TINFOIL on the head - you cannot be too careful.The guy says he has had his life and property threatened and you accuse him of being a tinfoil hat type. Why, because it doesn't fit into your system of disbelief? Do you think the world has to conform to your fantasies?
Thanks Eddy Currentz ,
Some people are just too dumb to know what they are saying. A none beleiver is what we do not need here. Suppression is for real. Maybe I should tape one of them, send it to her, however, she probably would not beleive the tape was real. I gave up on convincing none beleivers a long time ago.
Later,,,,,,JackH
Thanks Eddy Currentz ,
Some people are just too dumb to know what they are saying. A none beleiver is what we do not need here. Suppression is for real. Maybe I should tape one of them, send it to her, however, she probably would not beleive the tape was real. I gave up on convincing none beleivers a long time ago.
Later,,,,,,JackH
Maybe I am a dumb "none beleiver," though after that remark, you are no one to call other people dumb. I have been skeptical of you ever since you mentioned that you are selling shares of your "free energy" company for $5K a pop. Reminds me of Joseph Newman.
And Eddy, what is this you are talking about regarding mileage? The subcompacts and hybrid vehicles are extremely fuel efficient. These cars are not suppressed, but in fact widely touted for their gas efficiency. However, most Americans prefer to sacrifice fuel efficiency for performance and comfort because - surprise - America is a wealthy nation and gasoline is still relatively inexpensive. And what does Toyota care about American oil companies? Do you have evidence, or are you just repeating something you read on www.topsecretstuffenergycompaniesarekeepingfromthesheeple.com?
Hello shruggedatlas,
Well I kinda think it is purty smart selling shares for $5000.00 a pop. I have sold over $200,000.00 so far. Keeps my shop going, keeps me working on the motors.
Any one that makes fun of someone's life or family being threatened. Has got to be stupid or just plain COLD !!
Later,,,,,,JackH
The end of civilization as we know it?
and the current financial system will collapse for it has build these instruments in ITSELF ...
Personally, I believe we would have a more peaceful world if everyone needed or wanted nothing ? and instead of the treadmill of meaningless ends people could then pursue a more spiritual life path ? as was our original objective here on earth, before we became distracted by paper dragons.
The current financial system will collapse? I do not think you have thought your scenario all the way through. Why would the financial system collapse from an overabundance of energy?
In all reality, they never really abolished slavery - they just broadened the application to include everyone.
This was accomplished through property and income tax.
Stop paying your prop taxes long enough and you will soon find out who your master is - we own nothing, just like all the other slaves down through history - we have no more to show at the end of the week than a slave - a roof over your head and food on the table thats it, no further ahead.
The majority of our time is spent trying to make ends meet.
Yes Im after utopia.....thats why Im motivated to find answers like free-energy.In the past people could leave the establishment and get a new life in the new world...".the land of the free and the home of the brave" for example.But apart from leaving the planet we now find we cannot escape and find freedom this way anymore,we are forced to create ways to get freedom, like the internet ,that cannot be easily controlled,afterall "Globalisation" is the name of the game.The only other option is to live in areas like the oceans or in the air where Governments have no powers....people need to express their will and be heard (the will of the people) too many times this is ignored.
The difference between us is that you have an unconditional belief in the "laws of physics", and I put my faith in the laws of Nature. In many circumstances they are the same, but in some they aren't.
I realize that English is probably not your first language, so pardon my asking, but I just cannot get at what you are talking about. Are you saying you want to leave the planet Earth so you can get free energy somewhere else? Do you think that Martians have different laws of physics? Or do you think that if you can just get outside the territorial waters of any nation (and therefore outside the silly jurisdiction of those pesky "laws" of physics), suddenly the perpetual motion wheels will start to spin?
I am not here to exchange personal insults with anyone - and will not respond in kind.
The brain stem is the oldest and smallest region in the evolving human brain. It evolved hundreds of millions of years ago and is more like the entire brain of present-day reptiles. For this reason, it is often called the 'reptilian brain'. Various clumps of cells in the brain stem determine the brain's general level of alertness and regulate the vegetative processes of the body such as breathing and heartbeat.
It's similar to the brain possessed by the hardy reptiles that preceded mammals, roughly 200 million years ago. It's 'preverbal', but controls life functions such as autonomic brain, breathing, heart rate and the fight or flight mechanism. Lacking language, its impulses are instinctual and ritualistic. It's concerned with fundamental needs such as survival, physical maintenance, hoarding, dominance, preening and mating. It is also found in lower life forms such as lizards, crocodiles and birds. It is at the base of your skull emerging from your spinal column.
http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilianbrain.html
Reptilian Brain - Crystalinks
(http://www.crystalinks.com/brainreptoid.jpg)
I will however, happily exchange concepts, ideas, and theory with anyone in a respectful manner.
My ideas and opinions are formed from my own personal experiences, much research, the experiences of trusted sources - and not from controlled media sources.
Regards
Energy Suppression is impossible now adays providing that:
The inventor is not greedy himself!
If the inventor makes a build that is easily reproduceable by anyone!!!
Finally the undying faith that there is Free Energy to be gotten will not allow it!
Are you a greedy little pig?
-infringer-
The "laws" of physics are a bunch of bullshit. Why do you think they built the Hadron Collider? We DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW THE UNIVERSE WORKS. And another thing... the term "Free Energy" is pretty misleading. People say stuff like "There's no such thing as a free lunch." This is supposed to disprove something? I hate people like that. These inventions ARE NOT magically inventing energy. This is not the work of the devil or whatever you crazy nutjobs think. Take magentic motors for example... They are FOLLOWING the laws of physics. They're just doing it creatively to create electricity. Nothing that amazing about it really. I don't see why people have such a hard time getting over the concept. Nuclear reactions are another example... you have a little atom or whatever and smash it with another atom and suddenly you have this huge influx of power. This is not magic folks. It's called science. Some people are so stupid. Read some history. It's filled with brilliant scientists that were laughed at by people like you.
Is this thread titled WHY FREE ENERGY IS SUPPRESSED?
Seems it has broken down into a discussion about whether free energy CAN exist.
Technically energy has to be produced somewhere... so, of course, it is not FREE. So let's just put that to bed and stop arguing that.
And for the doubters here - what about cold fusion? It was proven years ago... and then it was basically suppressed by peer review... and now it is finally being replicated.
As for suppression - why are Maxwell's equations incomplete?
If we are only taught what is approved by our government/queen/dictator (or in the case of America - the elite), then how do we really know anything?
Is this thread titled WHY FREE ENERGY IS SUPPRESSED?
Seems it has broken down into a discussion about whether free energy CAN exist.
Technically energy has to be produced somewhere... so, of course, it is not FREE. So let's just put that to bed and stop arguing that.
If I order something from Amazon and get FREE shipping... it is not free technically. Amazon pays for it. But it's free to me.
So, let's call it HARNESSING A NATURAL SOURCE OF ENERGY.
the simple answer is CONTROL.
it's not even about money, but control of the people to keep us slaves.
Madsen: Grades K-12 only teach the accepted principles... accepted by graduates of the universities.
The elite have funded the universities and the research foundations for years. You only get grants when you tow the line.
Now that is a fact that the same families have funded all the knowledge. But how can I jump to the conclusion that they would fund it and use their influence to suppress certain things and encourage disinformation?
I look to other things they do that plainly show their M.O.
They funded the women's liberation movement.
I absolutely believe in equality. In that regard the movement was needed. But the net effect was to have women leave the house and compete for jobs, which lowered wages, which meant that in the end - both parents have to work in order to make ends meet... and they work for less.
It was a two-for-one sale... and we asked for it.
Sounds wacky?
Think about it. When business spends money - it's to make money.
Same people are now funding La Raza and other groups that work to keep borders unprotected - to increase the labor supply and lower wages.
Same people fund organizations that fight for regulation that keep us from building more oil refineries - keep out the competition / limit supply - raise prices and profits.
And yes - the oil companies are the only industry I know where... when the cost of goods sold goes up - profits increase. People who can pull that off are capable of anything.
So think about the other things you "know" - you might just see that you know what they tell you.
History is written by the victors... and the news is written by those in power. Money is power.
Just like religion and dogma are a form of control, so are the educational institutions in this country.
As long as any family or any race, or any class is seen as superior to any others... you are being oppressed and controlled - unless you are part of the superior family/class/race, then... you are the oppressor.
All this is very abstract. I don't doubt that powerful people tend to exercise their power. But let's get more specific about this suppression you are referring to. You mentioned that Maxwell's Equations are "incomplete" as an example. What does this mean? How are universities (or the elite) acting to suppress information in this case?
ETA: I am in the teaching biz myself, and I can tell you that education, as I practice it, is not merely reciting "accepted principles" to students for them to regurgitate later. A major component of one's education, in my view, is to learn to evaluate evidence and think critically, which allows one to defend oneself against control. Did you attend university yourself?
Maxwell's equations are correct (except not matching strictly quantum paradigm today).
There is one BIG problem however.Maxwell did not predicted the active envinronment... Don't look further, you have truly wheelwork of nature right here.It is called : Earth.
Maxwell didn't predicted Earth magnetosphere and its relationship with solar wind and magnetic field.
He assumed that Earth magnetic field only produce weak effects...
OK.Truly correct assumption based on compass needle only... But are you completly sure that magnetic field is ALWAYS a local field ,even for nonlinear events or positive feedback ???
why do we have the "bow shock" in Earth magnetosphere caused by solar wind ?
Ben - do you think patents for devices that could tap an unknown source of energy have not been bought and shelved?Look, I do believe that it is possible that there are sources of energy we have not tapped yet. I just don't buy into this huge government/big business conspiracy theory. I could come out tomorrow with pictures of my new free energy device, find a dozen investors. Promise them all exclusive rights to anything I build off my unfinished device, and then skip the country. Guess what would happen next! This website would have stories about how I had been killed/bought out when in reality I would be sipping on a Pina Colada bought with some suckers money. Wake up people, if someone offers you a device which turns lead into gold, then you buy the device and they skip town, don't expect them to come back to fix it when it doesn't work. It's so easy to con you people because you so desperately want to believe!
Do you believe that a patent for such a device would not be bought and shelved?
Yes, science is not something that can be bottled up. Today we get lots of 'Free' energy. We call it nuclear. A hundred years ago it would have been thought of as magic. A hundred years from now imagine what magic will be reality!
Do you believe that someone who chose not to sell out would live?
Yes. Do you believe that everyone that comes up with a device to run cars off air/magnets/water/happy feelings is whisked away by some awesome super amazing conspiracy? Do you also believe those infomercials on late nights? Can I sell you some ocean front property in Arizona?
Look into how the railroad was built in the US. They do what they want and get what they want. One way or another.
Sure, good or bad, the railroad would not have gotten built any other way. Neither would interstate highways. Side with the landowners that wanted outrageous amounts for their land, or the railroads that strongarmed the land out of them, I don't care. The railroads were a good thing that the country needed.
Either you are a drunken frat boy who can be blackmailed by those who know can prove you are a closet homosexual... or you are JFK.
Sorry, don't get the reference, and there are other sites for you to rant about politics.
Either you are a "good boy" who takes money from the man and only speaks out when the subject is racially divisive... or you are MLK.
MLK wanted equality, he would be ashamed to see the civil rights movement today. But again, politics.
Either you set an example of compliance... or you are John Lennon.
So John Lennon was killed for noncompliance? Who was Diana killed by? Landmine manufacturers? How was John Lennon so dangerous to "the man"? WTH have you been smoking?!
Maxwell didn't predicted Earth magnetosphere and its relationship with solar wind and magnetic field.
He assumed that Earth magnetic field only produce weak effects...
OK.Truly correct assumption based on compass needle only... But are you completly sure that magnetic field is ALWAYS a local field ,even for nonlinear events or positive feedback ???
why do we have the "bow shock" in Earth magnetosphere caused by solar wind ?
Maxwell's equations are incomplete. I'll get you a link to the details this weekend when I have the time.
I'll also give you examples of what the elite have said in public... which will give you chills - and make you wonder what they say in private.
I did go to college - Information Technologies - and I agree that there are good instructors and they are not part of a plot.
But you must also agree that if knowledge in a field is too far down the wrong path... then even "out of the box" critical thinking is crippled.
Back when men thought the earth was the center of the solar system... critical thinkers were killed. :) How long did it take to straighten that assumption out?
Look for more info in a couple of days.
Yes,it's all about plasma and magnetic field. Sun rotates and his rotating magnetic field is "frozen" into solar wind (because it is plasma) Solar wind accelerates and it's velocity is already super-sonic
Bow shock is a DYNAMIC effect as already predicted by Nikola Tesla indirectly . Because of Sun rotation and magnetohydrodynamic effects like : plasma frozen-in magnetic field lines and magnetic reconnection (the same what is the cause for large EM pulse at the atomic bomb explosion)
The result among nice Aurora Borealis are PURE magnetic waves of very high frequency in Earth magnetosphere (Alfven waves and more) Radiant energy rivers....
it is all of course all hyphotetical and mystic knowledge :-X
Study plasma...
Wow... people never cease to amaze me. These days science is too much like religion. You have these science fanatics that defend their little conception of reality like it's some holy war.
I believe magnetic motors and cold fusion are highly efficient means of producing energy. We definitely don't need some medieval scientific witch-hunt about it. If it's possible and it creates clean energy, let's share it with the world rather than bickering about it and getting nowhere.
Wow... people never cease to amaze me. These days science is too much like religion. You have these science fanatics that defend their little conception of reality like it's some holy war.
I believe magnetic motors and cold fusion are highly efficient means of producing energy. We definitely don't need some medieval scientific witch-hunt about it. If it's possible and it creates clean energy, let's share it with the world rather than bickering about it and getting nowhere.
Energy is a synonym for power and control.Sorry but the argument is BS. Water used to be the valuable commodity, but now almost everywhere on the planet it is cheap and abundant. Same with food for the most part. If energy were free, products would still not be. If suddenly the world no longer needed petroleum for power we would still need it for most of the products we enjoy. It's like the argument that the oil companies are squashing bio fuels. If bio-fuels are really a cheaper alternative to oil then the oil companies are going to be the first to pioneer the use on a large scale. Whats cheaper, spending time drilling and exploring with a high chance of finding nothing, or growing algae in huge tanks? When the answer is algae the oil companies will hop on board because it is better for their profits.
Maybe "no energy" instead of "free energy"
would cause less trouble.
"free energy" is the most evil thing on earth.
(if you sell weapons or/and are a part of the oil
industry). Forget terrorism.
Sorry but the argument is BS. Water used to be the valuable commodity, but now almost everywhere on the planet it is cheap and abundant.
Same with food for the most part. If energy were free, products would still not be.
If suddenly the world no longer needed petroleum for power we would still need it for most of the products we enjoy.
It's like the argument that the oil companies are squashing bio fuels. If bio-fuels are really a cheaper alternative to oil then the oil companies are going to be the first to pioneer the use on a large scale.
Whats cheaper, spending time drilling and exploring with a high chance of finding nothing, or growing algae in huge tanks? When the answer is algae the oil companies will hop on board because it is better for their profits.
Also, who is going to refine these new bio fuels? Who is going to provide the technology?On the long run I think the bio fuels will have no impact.
Free energy is not a threat to big auto or big oil, quite the oposite it could cause their profits to go up greatly.
Here's the link to some info on the rest of Maxwell's equations.
http://www.halexandria.org/dward760.htm
Here's the link to some info on the rest of Maxwell's equations.
http://www.halexandria.org/dward760.htm
I concede that those who say "20 equations were reduced to 4" are not quite right. I would suppose that if Maxwell reduced the 20 to 8 equations himself... then those 8 are complete.
But according to the wikipedia link... Heaviside used one outright and then combined 2 more to make one... that's 3.
It didn't mention that his other 2 were replacements for 2 more of Maxwell's - much less that they were a replacement for the 5 left.
If they replace 2 - then you still have 3 missing. Or maybe there's 5 missing.
The current financial system will collapse? I do not think you have thought your scenario all the way through. Why would the financial system collapse from an overabundance of energy? Take another key resource - food. Let's say we discovered a device that creates any type of food you like. Press a button and boom, out of nothing. Is the financial system going to collapse? Why would it? Everyone has plenty, and the farmers will just need to find new jobs. On the other hand, if the opposite occurred and all farms suddenly failed to produce anything, then yes, the financial system could collapse because food would suddenly become very scarce and billions would die in the process of finding alternative food sources.
In your scenario, there is too much energy. So what? Yes, some energy companies would go out of business. Unemployment may rise in some sectors, but hey, at least those people would not have electric bills anymore, and most likely new jobs would be created due to the energy surplus, so the unemployment would be temporary. Other energy companies would adopt the new technology and put it to full use, and presto, suddenly electricity is too cheap to meter, like cable TV signal, for example, and everyone would benefit. $25 per month for all you need. Does this sound like financial collapse?
Do you actually have any experience predicting economic events, or are you just throwing things out?
Do you ever think about the other side of the coin. From the point of view of those who hold the key?I am convinced that all large events are orchestrated by men that hide behind the curtain - a shadow government that makes it it's business to manange the masses. The 911 attacks, for instance, set the stage for the sea-change we are engulfed in.
What must they be thinking watching you? Are they more afraid of the MIB or you?
Would you care to re-think your ideas here in late 2008?
Here's the link to some info on the rest of Maxwell's equations."The great flaw in mainstream physics today is that no one seems willing to look at the effects of accelerating fields."
http://www.halexandria.org/dward760.htm
Make no mistake. When the real men in black own the government and judicial system, restraint, fear or honor are non-factors. The real factors are wealth and it's control.
Hello shruggedatlas,
You are totally sick if you do not beleive that free energy has not been held up. Free energy is alltogather different than wind or solor power. Free energy would bring down the big guys to our level.
Later,,,,,,JackH
Hello linda933,
Well here I go. Yes I have been treatened around 21 times on the phone. As far as NY and as close as my home town. I have been told that to stop on the motor or I would be killed. Also the last two times I was called it was on my cell phone, I dont now how they got my cell phone number. The last two times I was to stop on the motor or my shop would be burnt.
I have placed 5 camerias around the shop to watch it, I have a camera on my drive way to watch out for how comes up my drive way. Yes I am very carefull when I go to the shop, I take a 357 magnum with me, I keep the door locked and I allways look at the cameras before answering the door.
I viseted the shareffs office and the phone numbers were un-traceable, All they could tell me was where they come from.
Later,,,,,,,JackH
Free energy is a threat to the status quo.....it is a direct threat to the whole economic system we have, a system that is all about control and manipulation.Free energy is freedom...it is the frontier with so much promise......
Now, if there is a DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY ( with meaning being able to accumulate considerable energy in a small space/time/cost that can be utilized ) THAT IS BEING ADVERTISED ( note that according this wind/solar/termal are not disruptive technologies ) the markets will INCUR A HUGE RISK ... and A HUGE DISRUPTION most likely the people in control of the markets via the energy sector will LOOSE A LOT OF MONEY ( in a very short period of time, note that I am talking about the NEWS OF THE NEW TECHNOLOGY ). And now much of this 270 trillion options will be ( most likely ) executed to hedge against the ABRUPT CHANGE ... and the current financial system will collapse for it has build these instruments in ITSELF ...
The only solution for the NEW/OLD OU technologies is to grow from the grass roots ... or more and more people to be aware and to know about and how to use them. Yes there are risks associated with that too but eventually we will have to face the risks anyway sooner or later ...
A change in one WELL ESTABLISHED system never comes from the top AND IT IS ALWAYS DISRUPTIVE ...
I believe, AFTER FINDING ITS NEW BALANCE .... it will be BETTER WORLD !!!!