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Offline Elvis Oswald

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2008, 12:50:41 AM »
Here's the link to some info on the rest of Maxwell's equations.

http://www.halexandria.org/dward760.htm

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2008, 01:18:56 AM »

Evidently the only thing that was going to stop the Kennedy boys was a bullet.

And coincidentally, just before her demise, Marilyn announced a whistle-blowing news conference.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2008, 01:35:11 AM »
Here's the link to some info on the rest of Maxwell's equations.

http://www.halexandria.org/dward760.htm

Thanks---I'll have a look. 

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2008, 05:20:23 AM »
Here's the link to some info on the rest of Maxwell's equations.

http://www.halexandria.org/dward760.htm

I did a little reading on this and here is my take on it.  First, Maxwell's paper A Dynamical Theory of the Electrical Field apparently is the first place where "Maxwell's Equations" appear.  It's available here in pdf form, and there's a discussion on this wikipedia page. 

On page 465, Maxwell describes the equations involved in his theory.  There are 8 general relationships, which correspond to 20 actual equations, which can be condensed down to 8 equations using modern notation (no loss of information here, just different notation).  These 8 equations are given on the wikipedia page. 

As your source mentions, Heaviside's version of Maxwell's Equations is different than Maxwell's.  I don't think he "deleted" anything, though---it just looks to me as if he reorganized things and used more economical vector notation.  For example, Maxwell's original 20 included three which together comprise the Lorentz Force Law.  That law has just been separated out and stands on its own now.   

I would be interested to see if you can find any of these 20 equations which have been suppressed in any way.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2008, 04:15:14 PM »
I concede that those who say "20 equations were reduced to 4" are not quite right.  I would suppose that if Maxwell reduced the 20 to 8 equations himself... then those 8 are complete.
But according to the wikipedia link... Heaviside used one outright and then combined 2 more to make one... that's 3.
It didn't mention that his other 2 were replacements for 2 more of Maxwell's - much less that they were a replacement for the 5 left.
If they replace 2 - then you still have 3 missing.  Or maybe there's 5 missing.

Specifically being suppressed - I cannot say and I would not think that's how it happened.  I'd say that Heaviside's equations were "adopted" and have been used ever since.  They even call them Maxwell's equations.

What percentage of electromechanical knowledge - developed over the last 100 years - has relied on those equations has a base?
What if there are elements missing?

It'll take someone with more mathematical genius than me to decide that.  To me - it's smoke.  And when there's smoke...

Take for instance the "news" that scientists can now broadcast electricity.  WTF?  How about Tesla did that over 100 years ago.
Not only has it been ignored - but the articles I've read on the "latest" have not mentioned Tesla at all.
And I believe I remember threads on this forum and others were "engineers" poo-poo'ed  wireless electricity as just a Tesla myth.

Well - at the same time he discovered that he could broadcast and receive electricity... he also said that it would be free.
That's about the time his funding was pulled...

I don't believe everything some of these free energy kooks say... but I believe Tesla knew what he was talking about.
Just the fact that Tesla has been suppressed - which to me is obvious - means that technology is being suppressed... and the only way smart people wouldn't figure it out is if they were miseducated at a base level.


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Offline madsen

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2008, 08:00:25 PM »
I concede that those who say "20 equations were reduced to 4" are not quite right.  I would suppose that if Maxwell reduced the 20 to 8 equations himself... then those 8 are complete.
But according to the wikipedia link... Heaviside used one outright and then combined 2 more to make one... that's 3.
It didn't mention that his other 2 were replacements for 2 more of Maxwell's - much less that they were a replacement for the 5 left.
If they replace 2 - then you still have 3 missing.  Or maybe there's 5 missing.

You make a good point---certainly it would be reasonable to investigate what became of these 8 equations.  I'm no expert on E&M, but here's what I find.  I'll use letters A--H to label the equations as in the wikipedia article we were discussing.

A & C were combined to give Ampere's Law (one of the modern 4 Maxwell's Equations)
B is the definition of vector magnetic potential (which is mentioned on page 234 of Griffiths' Electrodynamics, a very popular E&M textbook)
D is now called the Lorentz Force Law
E defines the Electric Displacement Field
F is Ohm's Law (the continuum form)
G is Gauss' Law (one of the modern 4 Maxwell's Equations)
H, the Equation of Continuity of Charge, appears on page 291 of Dugdale's Essentials of Electromagnetism, another E&M textbook. 

So it looks to me as if all of Maxwell's original 8 equations still show up in mainstream textbooks and wikipedia.  What has happened is that they have been regrouped or reorganized into a form which hopefully is more logical and elegant than the original form.  We also should remember that Maxwell actually was doing a job similar to Heaviside's---he didn't invent these equations from scratch, but built on the work of others, and attempted to organize the equations into a coherent theory. 


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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #96 on: November 15, 2008, 12:35:25 PM »
These are matters of the highest magnitude, on the world stage, with the potential to alter humanity - nearly overnight and forever. Once a genie of this sort is released, the entire world's energy industries as we have come to know them would be turned upside down.
Imagine power plants worldwide, slowly grinding to a halt. Coal, natural gas and oil production shrinking to near zero within several years. Electrical towers and power lines that criss-cross the entire world, slowly, yet streadily withering away within a decade. Imagine the manufacturers of all of the specialized equipment involved in oil drilling and refining, coal mining and delivery systems ceasing to exist. Re-tooling and re-equipping ocean-going ships of all sizes, every existing locomotive and semi, not to mention the entire automotive industry, worldwide. No power generating plants anywhere, on the planet, within five years. Literally hundreds of millions of skilled laborers, out of work.
There are very powerful and extremely clever cabals that will do anything, and I do mean anything, to prevent this. The magnitude of the stakes cannot be exaggerated - there are none higher - in human history.
The economic implications are profound. World wars III and IV could be waged at the same time. Nuclear exchanges would likely be widespread.
Somewhere, eventually, someone will begin to manufacture a viable overunity device. And these bands of thugs will resort to open, blatant destruction of such technologies at their point of manufacture and will openly engage in unabashed, well-publicized murder - possibly on grand scales. Shadow governments relish making examples. How can they be held accountable when the missle launcher can't be found? And plausible deniability reigns supreme in such matters.
Is there a better example better than that of the 911 attacks?
Make no mistake. When the real men in black own the government and judicial system, restraint, fear or honor are non-factors. The real factors are wealth and it's control.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #97 on: November 15, 2008, 12:42:12 PM »
The current financial system will collapse?  I do not think you have thought your scenario all the way through.  Why would the financial system collapse from an overabundance of energy?  Take another key resource - food.  Let's say we discovered a device that creates any type of food you like.  Press a button and boom, out of nothing.  Is the financial system going to collapse?  Why would it?  Everyone has plenty, and the farmers will just need to find new jobs.  On the other hand, if the opposite occurred and all farms suddenly failed to produce anything, then yes, the financial system could collapse because food would suddenly become very scarce and billions would die in the process of finding alternative food sources.

In your scenario, there is too much energy.  So what?  Yes, some energy companies would go out of business.  Unemployment may rise in some sectors, but hey, at least those people would not have electric bills anymore, and most likely new jobs would be created due to the energy surplus, so the unemployment would be temporary.  Other energy companies would adopt the new technology and put it to full use, and presto, suddenly electricity is too cheap to meter, like cable TV signal, for example, and everyone would benefit.  $25 per month for all you need.  Does this sound like financial collapse?

Do you actually have any experience predicting economic events, or are you just throwing things out?

Would you care to re-think your ideas here in late 2008?

Offline Doug1

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #98 on: November 15, 2008, 01:49:20 PM »
 Do you ever think about the other side of the coin. From the point of view of those who hold the key?
 What must they be thinking watching you? Are they more afraid of the MIB or you?

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« Reply #99 on: November 15, 2008, 02:06:50 PM »
Do you ever think about the other side of the coin. From the point of view of those who hold the key?
 What must they be thinking watching you? Are they more afraid of the MIB or you?
I am convinced that all large events are orchestrated by men that hide behind the curtain - a shadow government that makes it it's business to manange the masses. The 911 attacks, for instance, set the stage for the sea-change we are engulfed in.
Public consent is often manufactured through such "disasters", in order to pursue otherwise unthinkable intrigues.
And the financial meltdown was yet another step in the hidden agenda - disguised as "unforeseen" and attributable to overt "greed".
"They" are the masters of the MIB and "they" hold the keys - the true levers of real power, and their plans are well refined, long in the making and are rife with what can only be described as unadulterated evil on the grandest of scales.
I just commented because Lyndon LaRouche was predicticting publicly, nearly 18 months ago, the very thing that "surprised" us in late September.
And I'm afraid that it's going to get worse, possibly much, much worse, before it gets better.
Buy non-perishable foodstuffs and any critical medications - in bulk.

Offline alan

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #100 on: November 15, 2008, 02:08:33 PM »
Not surpressed (maybe in the past), but underdeveloped, because it is a huge investment risk.

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Offline dean_mcgowan

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #101 on: November 15, 2008, 02:23:34 PM »
i still find it difficult to accep it is suppressed. what is the proof it has been?

Offline alan

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« Reply #102 on: November 15, 2008, 02:38:27 PM »
No proof, only indians tales.

Like the "mib in black vans, who picked up all of stan meyers' stuff" If that was true, then his stuff wouldn't be found right now.
cold fusion is real i think, but has been ridiculed by scientists, so no sponsored research is possible.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #103 on: November 15, 2008, 02:54:49 PM »
Efficient solar panels were known from years but are still not available.Check scientific reports back from 80

Offline shruggedatlas

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #104 on: November 15, 2008, 05:47:17 PM »
Would you care to re-think your ideas here in late 2008?

No, I would not.  The current crisis is not being caused by the wide availablility of free energy.

 

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