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Offline madsen

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2008, 03:00:46 AM »
Madsen: Grades K-12 only teach the accepted principles... accepted by graduates of the universities.

The elite have funded the universities and the research foundations for years.  You only get grants when you tow the line.

Now that is a fact that the same families have funded all the knowledge.  But how can I jump to the conclusion that they would fund it and use their influence to suppress certain things and encourage disinformation?
I look to other things they do that plainly show their M.O.

They funded the women's liberation movement.
I absolutely believe in equality.  In that regard the movement was needed.  But the net effect was to have women leave the house and compete for jobs, which lowered wages, which meant that in the end - both parents have to work in order to make ends meet... and they work for less.
It was a two-for-one sale... and we asked for it.
Sounds wacky?
Think about it.  When business spends money - it's to make money.
Same people are now funding La Raza and other groups that work to keep borders unprotected - to increase the labor supply and lower wages.
Same people fund organizations that fight for regulation that keep us from building more oil refineries - keep out the competition / limit supply - raise prices and profits.
And yes - the oil companies are the only industry I know where... when the cost of goods sold goes up - profits increase.  People who can pull that off are capable of anything.

So think about the other things you "know" - you might just see that you know what they tell you.
History is written by the victors... and the news is written by those in power.  Money is power.

Just like religion and dogma are a form of control, so are the educational institutions in this country.

As long as any family or any race, or any class is seen as superior to any others... you are being oppressed and controlled - unless you are part of the superior family/class/race, then... you are the oppressor.

All this is very abstract.  I don't doubt that powerful people tend to exercise their power.  But let's get more specific about this suppression you are referring to.  You mentioned that Maxwell's Equations are "incomplete" as an example.  What does this mean?  How are universities (or the elite) acting to suppress information in this case?

ETA:  I am in the teaching biz myself, and I can tell you that education, as I practice it, is not merely reciting "accepted principles" to students for them to regurgitate later.  A major component of one's education, in my view, is to learn to evaluate evidence and think critically, which allows one to defend oneself against control.  Did you attend university yourself?

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2008, 03:00:46 AM »

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #61 on: September 10, 2008, 05:32:54 AM »
@ All

I just had a thought, why not turn this thread of the best examples of what is possible in the field of OU or COP > 1.0 that we have heard of and can probably replicate vs suppressed ideas or what is being suppressed but still possibel?

I watched a show about 20 years ago more or less that showed NASA technology in the trunk of a car as a vacuum tube with a big magnet spinning around with the outside being no less than a really big version of a shake up flashlight with the coil except it was a doughnut magnet in the vacuum tube of the Glass, Pyrex or Acrylic exterior tube that I can remember just spinning around....think about it, one bump in the car would set the magnet in almost perpetual motion in a vacuum and that was before the Internet!  I haven't found it yet listed on the net....could someone find this? I don't know but I'm not making this up, I just happen to have a piss poor memory and it took me all this time to remember it...LOL

I know this probably belongs in the half baked ideas threads but hear me out....

Can the above NASA tech that's not already out in the market be reproducible by modern day tech?

If so we got as close to OU or COP > 1.0 that we can get using NASA tech...using tax dollars right?

Unless someone comes up with a better verifiable and greater output machine than NASA had 20 years ago which is very possible today but just need to verify
everyone's claims of OU or COP > 1.0 that we can replicate easily as possible.

Now let make things clear, the above mentioned vacuum tube is way beyond my abilities but not that of modern day factories.  So where is the above device and not the shake up flashlight?  Certainly not at Wally Mart  ;D

Regards to all,
Paul

« Last Edit: September 10, 2008, 06:33:15 AM by Goat »

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #62 on: September 10, 2008, 05:41:01 AM »
@ Admins

Please excuse the last post but the site went down for awhile here in Canada and when I replied it kind of screwed up the previous post, I hope everyone got my idea none the less....please edit as necessary because I can't find the edit button  :o

Edit:   OK I think I found the edit button and fixed most of the last thread  :P

Second Edit: Ok I found it, i'ts the modify button...damn, old man in a new land of BUTTONS....LMAO
 
Regards to all,
Paul

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
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Offline Goat

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #63 on: September 10, 2008, 06:17:02 AM »
@ All

Look at the last NASA example, it was completely out in the open 20 or so years ago but who caught it on this site alone?  Is it really all hidden tech?

What I'm saying (proposing) is there is information out there but we need to come together and make it happen just as this web site is trying to do.  Anyone out there who has access to the tech to put a doughnut magnet in a vacuum sealed tube is welcomed to do this, if so all we need is a coil on the outside of the tube to create a current once the magnet is set in motion. 

Now after all we learned on the open source OU sites such as this one would a pulsed activated circuit make the magnet repulse such as in a Bedini et al type circuit work in this case to activate the magnet in a vacuum and cause an extended reaction.......Hell yes!.....remember, NASA was working within the bounds of space so why use a magnet in space and apply it to earth!  I know many would argue that magnets will not work in space but why did I happen to see this on TV 20 years ago from NASA tech out of all things?  And furthermore why isn't this being applied today if we already paid for it?  Sorry I didn't pay for it since I'm Canadian but USA folks should be mad as hell, I would be  :-[

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Paul

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« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2008, 06:45:15 AM »
@ All

As an addition to the above.  Would a copper tube above a pulsed magnetic circuit such as Benidini et al. type pulsed circuit preclude the need for a vacuum tube because of a known Lorentz law violation, would the magnet still interact as in a vacuum tube?  Just thinking out loud..... :P

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Paul

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2008, 10:21:15 PM »


Some very common sense viewpoints above...you know who you are.

Its good to see that many are aware that our lives have been derailed by a controlling faction...which in my opinion are socio/pshcyhopathic in nature...and bent on our enhanced enslavement and or worse.

I only hope they don't ruin the planet before they are stopped.

Regards...

 

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2008, 10:30:34 PM »
All this is very abstract.  I don't doubt that powerful people tend to exercise their power.  But let's get more specific about this suppression you are referring to.  You mentioned that Maxwell's Equations are "incomplete" as an example.  What does this mean?  How are universities (or the elite) acting to suppress information in this case?

ETA:  I am in the teaching biz myself, and I can tell you that education, as I practice it, is not merely reciting "accepted principles" to students for them to regurgitate later.  A major component of one's education, in my view, is to learn to evaluate evidence and think critically, which allows one to defend oneself against control.  Did you attend university yourself?

Maxwell's equations are correct (except not matching strictly quantum paradigm today). There is one BIG problem however.Maxwell did not predicted the active envinronment... Don't look further, you have  truly wheelwork of nature right here.It is called : Earth.

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« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2008, 10:46:17 PM »
Maxwell's equations are correct (except not matching strictly quantum paradigm today).

Good, that's my understanding as well

Quote from: forest
There is one BIG problem however.Maxwell did not predicted the active envinronment... Don't look further, you have  truly wheelwork of nature right here.It is called : Earth.

I'm not sure what this means.  What is the active environment?  Is it something that Maxwell should have predicted?

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« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2008, 11:53:50 PM »
Maxwell didn't predicted Earth magnetosphere and its relationship with solar wind and magnetic field.
He assumed that Earth magnetic field only produce weak effects...
OK.Truly correct assumption based on compass needle only... But are you completly sure that magnetic field is ALWAYS a local field ,even for nonlinear events or positive feedback ???

why do we have the "bow shock" in Earth magnetosphere caused by solar wind ?

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« Reply #70 on: September 11, 2008, 12:24:47 AM »
Maxwell didn't predicted Earth magnetosphere and its relationship with solar wind and magnetic field.
He assumed that Earth magnetic field only produce weak effects...
OK.Truly correct assumption based on compass needle only... But are you completly sure that magnetic field is ALWAYS a local field ,even for nonlinear events or positive feedback ???

why do we have the "bow shock" in Earth magnetosphere caused by solar wind ?

Thanks for the reply.  That's interesting stuff, which I know nothing about, so I'll have to do some homework.   ;)

For now though, let me ask you to clarify something---are you saying that the existence of this bow shock is not accounted for by, or is perhaps even inconsistent with Maxwell's Equations? 

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« Reply #71 on: September 11, 2008, 04:21:24 AM »
Ben - do you think patents for devices that could tap an unknown source of energy have not been bought and shelved?

Do you believe that a patent for such a device would not be bought and shelved?
Yes, science is not something that can be bottled up. Today we get lots of 'Free' energy. We call it nuclear. A hundred years ago it would have been thought of as magic. A hundred years from now imagine what magic will be reality!
Do you believe that someone who chose not to sell out would live?
Yes. Do you believe that everyone that comes up with a device to run cars off air/magnets/water/happy feelings is whisked away by some awesome super amazing conspiracy? Do you also believe those infomercials on late nights? Can I sell you some ocean front property in Arizona?
Look into how the railroad was built in the US.  They do what they want and get what they want.  One way or another.
Sure, good or bad, the railroad would not have gotten built any other way. Neither would interstate highways. Side with the landowners that wanted outrageous amounts for their land, or the railroads that strongarmed the land out of them, I don't care. The railroads were a good thing that the country needed.
Either you are a drunken frat boy who can be blackmailed by those who know can prove you are a closet homosexual... or you are JFK.
Sorry, don't get the reference, and there are other sites for you to rant about politics.
Either you are a "good boy" who takes money from the man and only speaks out when the subject is racially divisive... or you  are MLK.
MLK wanted equality, he would be ashamed to see the civil rights movement today. But again, politics.
Either you set an example of compliance... or you are John Lennon.
So John Lennon was killed for noncompliance? Who was Diana killed by? Landmine manufacturers? How was John Lennon so dangerous to "the man"? WTH have you been smoking?!


Look, I do believe that it is possible that there are sources of energy we have not tapped yet. I just don't buy into this huge government/big business conspiracy theory. I could come out tomorrow with pictures of my new free energy device, find a dozen investors. Promise them all exclusive rights to anything I build off my unfinished device, and then skip the country. Guess what would happen next! This website would have stories about how I had been killed/bought out when in reality I would be sipping on a Pina Colada bought with some suckers money. Wake up people, if someone offers you a device which turns lead into gold, then you buy the device and they skip town, don't expect them to come back to fix it when it doesn't work. It's so easy to con you people because you so desperately want to believe!

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #72 on: September 11, 2008, 10:54:12 AM »
Maxwell didn't predicted Earth magnetosphere and its relationship with solar wind and magnetic field.
He assumed that Earth magnetic field only produce weak effects...
OK.Truly correct assumption based on compass needle only... But are you completly sure that magnetic field is ALWAYS a local field ,even for nonlinear events or positive feedback ???

why do we have the "bow shock" in Earth magnetosphere caused by solar wind ?

This page looks interesting---it derives the shape of the bow shock using the equations of magnetohydrodynamics, which themselves are "a combination of the Navier-Stokes equations of fluid dynamics and Maxwell's equations of electromagnetism.", according to this wikipedia page.

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« Reply #73 on: September 11, 2008, 01:25:36 PM »
Maxwell's equations are incomplete.  I'll get you a link to the details this weekend when I have the time.

I'll also give you examples of what the elite have said in public... which will give you chills - and make you wonder what they say in private.

I did go to college - Information Technologies - and I agree that there are good instructors and they are not part of a plot.
But you must also agree that if knowledge in a field is too far down the wrong path... then even "out of the box" critical thinking is crippled.
Back when men thought the earth was the center of the solar system... critical thinkers were killed.  :)  How long did it take to straighten that assumption out?

Look for more info in a couple of days.

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« Reply #74 on: September 11, 2008, 04:11:07 PM »
Yes,it's all about plasma and magnetic field. Sun rotates and his rotating magnetic field is "frozen" into solar wind (because it is plasma) Solar wind accelerates and it's velocity is already super-sonic
Bow shock is a DYNAMIC effect as already predicted by Nikola Tesla indirectly . Because of Sun rotation and magnetohydrodynamic effects like : plasma frozen-in magnetic field lines and magnetic reconnection (the same what is the cause for large EM pulse at the atomic bomb explosion)
The result among nice Aurora Borealis are PURE magnetic waves of very high frequency  in Earth magnetosphere (Alfven waves and more)  Radiant energy rivers....

it is all of course all hyphotetical and mystic knowledge  :-X

Study plasma...


"The hot coronal plasma making up the solar wind possesses an extremely high electrical conductivity. In such a plasma, we expect the concept of ``frozen-in'' magnetic field-lines, discussed in Sect. 5.3, to be applicable. The continuous flow of coronal material into interplanetary space must, therefore, result in the transport of the solar magnetic field into the interplanetary region. If the Sun did not rotate, the resulting magnetic configuration would be very simple. The radial coronal expansion considered above (with the neglect of any magnetic forces) would produce magnetic field-lines extending radially outward from the Sun.

Of course, the Sun does rotate, with a (latitude dependent) period of about 25 days.22 Since the solar photosphere is an excellent electrical conductor, the magnetic field at the base of the corona is frozen into the rotating frame of reference of the Sun. A magnetic field-line starting from a given location on the surface of the Sun is drawn out along the path followed by the element of the solar wind emanating from that location."

 

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