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Author Topic: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed  (Read 55526 times)

Offline gaby de wilde

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2007, 02:02:20 AM »
I thought this was a very good docu about the current state of events.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2008, 01:11:48 AM »
The time to release this technology is NOW. The word is getting out that this stuff is for real... Amateur inventors all over the world are proving it isn't hard at all to rig up a device that creates overunity power. In the old days, like say the 1980's, it was easy for the illuminati to squash these projects one by one before the word got out much. The problem is that today, with the internet, I can post my overunity device video on myspace and it could get 100,000 views within a day or two. As soon as the public wakes up and realizes an evil illuminati is ruining the world and essentially enslaving the masses, there is going to be tremendous backlash. Saying terrorists could misuse this technology is essentially a joke, because the world is being shown that the TRUE terrorists are IN power suppressing free energy for their sinister greedy purposes. When the world is running on clean free energy, their aren't going to be any terrorists. Everyone will be happy.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2008, 03:02:13 AM »
Energy Suppression is impossible now adays providing that:

The inventor is not greedy himself!

If the inventor makes a build that is easily reproduceable by anyone!!!

Finally the undying faith that there is Free Energy to be gotten will not allow it!

Are you a greedy little pig?

-infringer-

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2008, 03:02:13 AM »
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Offline utilitarian

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2008, 05:02:00 AM »
Energy Suppression is impossible now adays providing that:

The inventor is not greedy himself!

If the inventor makes a build that is easily reproduceable by anyone!!!

Finally the undying faith that there is Free Energy to be gotten will not allow it!

Are you a greedy little pig?

-infringer-

Free energy is being actively suppressed as we speak.  It is being suppressed by the laws of physics.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2008, 05:36:24 AM »
Have not laws of physics been wrong before or proven wrong?

Sure they have...

So has history for god sakes if someone comes up with a working device laws aside proof is prrof and proof that can be replicated by the laymen is the best a man can get.

Drop the money goal and aquire the goal for free energy or energy freedom.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2008, 05:36:24 AM »
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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2008, 09:08:38 AM »
The "laws" of physics are a bunch of bullshit. Why do you think they built the Hadron Collider? We DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW THE UNIVERSE WORKS. And another thing... the term "Free Energy" is pretty misleading. People say stuff like "There's no such thing as a free lunch." This is supposed to disprove something? I hate people like that. These inventions ARE NOT magically inventing energy. This is not the work of the devil or whatever you crazy nutjobs think. Take magentic motors for example... They are FOLLOWING the laws of physics. They're just doing it creatively to create electricity. Nothing that amazing about it really. I don't see why people have such a hard time getting over the concept. Nuclear reactions are another example... you have a little atom or whatever and smash it with another atom and suddenly you have this huge influx of power. This is not magic folks. It's called science. Some people are so stupid. Read some history. It's filled with brilliant scientists that were laughed at by people like you.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2008, 09:32:52 AM »
The "laws" of physics are a bunch of bullshit. Why do you think they built the Hadron Collider? We DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW THE UNIVERSE WORKS. And another thing... the term "Free Energy" is pretty misleading. People say stuff like "There's no such thing as a free lunch." This is supposed to disprove something? I hate people like that. These inventions ARE NOT magically inventing energy. This is not the work of the devil or whatever you crazy nutjobs think. Take magentic motors for example... They are FOLLOWING the laws of physics. They're just doing it creatively to create electricity. Nothing that amazing about it really. I don't see why people have such a hard time getting over the concept. Nuclear reactions are another example... you have a little atom or whatever and smash it with another atom and suddenly you have this huge influx of power. This is not magic folks. It's called science. Some people are so stupid. Read some history. It's filled with brilliant scientists that were laughed at by people like you.

In nuclear reactions, mass-energy is conserved, correct? 

Do you think it is also conserved in magnetic motors?  If so, where does the extra energy come from?

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
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Offline Elvis Oswald

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2008, 05:03:26 PM »
Is this thread titled WHY FREE ENERGY IS SUPPRESSED?
Seems it has broken down into a discussion about whether free energy CAN exist.

Technically energy has to be produced somewhere... so, of course, it is not FREE.  So let's just put that to bed and stop arguing that.
If I order something from Amazon and get FREE shipping... it is not free technically.  Amazon pays for it.  But it's free to me.
So, let's call it HARNESSING A NATURAL SOURCE OF ENERGY.

Also - we are talking about an unknown source of natural energy.  Known sources are expensive - they require space and expensive components (dams, windmill farms, and batteries).

What we are talking about is a natural source of energy that can be tapped with a return on investment that makes it cheaper than other sources.
Can that exist?  Absolutely.
Does it have to violate the laws of physics?  Nope.

Nuclear power is a good example of using something so small you can't see to produce huge amounts of energy.

And for the doubters here - what about cold fusion?  It was proven years ago... and then it was basically suppressed by peer review... and now it is finally being replicated.

Lightning is natural.  Is it FREE?  Not really... forces of nature work to create it.  But it's free to us.  One man with a golf club can harness it. haha
Can we harness the force that creates it to use it.  Yes.  As it is, we can.
But can we find out what forces are at work and get at that power another way.  I bet we can.

I'll try and find a link... but everyone should look at the slow motion video of lightning (google search).
I've educated myself on how they SAY lightning works... and when I watch the video, it doesn't look like that.
Check it out.

As for suppression - why are Maxwell's equations incomplete?  Who has funded our universities?
Why are positive and negative backwards?  Because Ben Franklin got it wrong and they left it that way out of respect?  Who has funded our universities?

If we are only taught what is approved by our government/queen/dictator (or in the case of America - the elite), then how do we really know anything?

If that sounds crazy - consider history.  In America, we are taught that we WON the west... that the Germans were brutal and bombed civilians in London (ignoring that England bombed German cities first)... that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor without provocation... that the Gulf of Tonkin happened... that Iraqi's stomped on babies in Kuwait... that they had WMDs... that the Russians started the Georgian conflict... and on and on.

History is written by those in power.  Textbooks are too.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2008, 05:24:57 PM »
Is this thread titled WHY FREE ENERGY IS SUPPRESSED?
Seems it has broken down into a discussion about whether free energy CAN exist.

Technically energy has to be produced somewhere... so, of course, it is not FREE.  So let's just put that to bed and stop arguing that.

Agreed.  Be careful though, talk of conservation laws is likely to get you "suppressed" around here.   ;)

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And for the doubters here - what about cold fusion?  It was proven years ago... and then it was basically suppressed by peer review... and now it is finally being replicated.

As I recall, when cold fusion first hit the media, many people were claiming to have replicated it---I remember watching a graduate student at the university I was attending at the time on television claiming he had observed it in his lab.  Then the whole thing fell apart.

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As for suppression - why are Maxwell's equations incomplete? 

I haven't heard of this---who says Maxwell's equations are "incomplete"?

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If we are only taught what is approved by our government/queen/dictator (or in the case of America - the elite), then how do we really know anything?

I don't think this is actually true (in the case of the USA, anyway).  Primary and secondary schools here are controlled locally.  I have attended several universities and my experience was that many of my professors were more on the anti-establishment side. 

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2008, 05:59:27 PM »
Is this thread titled WHY FREE ENERGY IS SUPPRESSED?
Seems it has broken down into a discussion about whether free energy CAN exist.

Technically energy has to be produced somewhere... so, of course, it is not FREE.  So let's just put that to bed and stop arguing that.
If I order something from Amazon and get FREE shipping... it is not free technically.  Amazon pays for it.  But it's free to me.
So, let's call it HARNESSING A NATURAL SOURCE OF ENERGY.


Sure, we can harness natural sources of energy.  As this relates to the topic, however - no one is suppressing that.  Dams, wind farms, solar panels, nuclear power plants are all harnessing energy in the U.S. and many other parts of the world.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2008, 03:25:37 AM »
the simple answer is CONTROL.

it's not even about money, but control of the people to keep us slaves.

   * Money Is Control.   If I have your money, I can control you a good bit.

   * Free energy is suppressed, because the economy would crash like a windows ME pc. lol
     Think of the kajillions of dollars they'll be losing,when its free to power your house,or drive your car.
     If you had free power, you could even grow your own food year round indoors for free.
     Then you would only need money to buy things that you could not make or build yourself, like a flat screen tv.
     and I could imagine how much that would go up in price...lol a tv for twenty five thousand...what...lol

   * Free power will only be available if someone on this site figures it out, and post up a how-to.
     Other than that,it will never be. and be happy there's not a tax on the sun or wind...
 

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2008, 06:24:49 AM »
First let me state that I do not put all faith in the laws of physics. No scientist should. I instead put my faith in repeatable predictable experimentation, until that is an experiment is done that does something abnormal.

Now as to free energy being suppressed:

1. You have a guy that creates a box. Could be any number of devices, but a simple box works for the argument. Out of this box comes more energy than goes in. The box however has some problems than need further research/tuning/development to their full potential.The inventor takes in research money from many sources that want to see the box in production. Then the "free energy mafia" takes the box, stops the research, and mysteriously the inventor is found in Tahiti living the good life. Wow. Sounds pretty much the formula con men have been using for years. Offer something valuable, take money for the valuable something, then find a reason why they can neither give you the money nor produce the valuable item.

2. You have a guy that creates a box. Others try and duplicate the device, but without the inventors help they can't create anything that works. Written off as a hoax. Inventor becomes a laughing stock and the invention is lost.

3. You have a guy that creates a box. Doesn't tell many people about it because he knows nobody would believe him. Takes it to his grave.

In all three of these scenarios there is no free energy going public. The big conspiracy? There have been con men in every field of endeavor for years. They love free energy because anyone who is looking for something for nothing is an easy mark.

Why am I here? Because I believe scenario 2 is possible. I am fascinated by Steven Mark's TPU, and although I think it's probably a con and the inventor was definitely a con man, I can't figure out how to recreate the illusion. So I'm going to either recreate the device or recreate the effect.

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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #57 on: September 10, 2008, 02:26:23 AM »
Madsen: Grades K-12 only teach the accepted principles... accepted by graduates of the universities.

The elite have funded the universities and the research foundations for years.  You only get grants when you tow the line.

Now that is a fact that the same families have funded all the knowledge.  But how can I jump to the conclusion that they would fund it and use their influence to suppress certain things and encourage disinformation?
I look to other things they do that plainly show their M.O.

They funded the women's liberation movement.
I absolutely believe in equality.  In that regard the movement was needed.  But the net effect was to have women leave the house and compete for jobs, which lowered wages, which meant that in the end - both parents have to work in order to make ends meet... and they work for less.
It was a two-for-one sale... and we asked for it.
Sounds wacky?
Think about it.  When business spends money - it's to make money.
Same people are now funding La Raza and other groups that work to keep borders unprotected - to increase the labor supply and lower wages.
Same people fund organizations that fight for regulation that keep us from building more oil refineries - keep out the competition / limit supply - raise prices and profits.
And yes - the oil companies are the only industry I know where... when the cost of goods sold goes up - profits increase.  People who can pull that off are capable of anything.

So think about the other things you "know" - you might just see that you know what they tell you.
History is written by the victors... and the news is written by those in power.  Money is power.

Just like religion and dogma are a form of control, so are the educational institutions in this country.

As long as any family or any race, or any class is seen as superior to any others... you are being oppressed and controlled - unless you are part of the superior family/class/race, then... you are the oppressor.


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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #58 on: September 10, 2008, 02:31:45 AM »
utilitarian - you are correct that those natural sources are not being suppressed.  But naming a half-dozen natural sources of energy does not preclude other sources that are unknown to the public.


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Re: Why Free Energy Is Suppressed
« Reply #59 on: September 10, 2008, 02:45:48 AM »
Ben - do you think patents for devices that could tap an unknown source of energy have not been bought and shelved?

Do you believe that a patent for such a device would not be bought and shelved?

Do you believe that someone who chose not to sell out would live?

Look into how the railroad was built in the US.  They do what they want and get what they want.  One way or another.

Either you are a drunken frat boy who can be blackmailed by those who know can prove you are a closet homosexual... or you are JFK.
Either you are a "good boy" who takes money from the man and only speaks out when the subject is racially divisive... or you  are MLK.
Either you set an example of compliance... or you are John Lennon.


 

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