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## Solid States Devices => solid state devices => Topic started by: Grumpy on October 12, 2007, 05:17:41 AM

Title: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on October 12, 2007, 05:17:41 AM
Sauron posted this image a while back of the TPU between the Sun and Earth:

(I have much to add to this when I have more time.)

And he posted the infamous forks:

Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Freezer on October 12, 2007, 05:24:25 AM
Very interesting.  The Egyptian topic has always interested me, and I believe they were perhaps more advanced than we our today.  Seems like that lens shape relates too.

Ed Leedskalnin's secret -

"The Secret To The Universe Is 7129 / 6105195."

I found this on the web -

cos(6105195) = cos(45)
45x16 = 720 = 360x2 = 2 rings

cos(7129) = cos(71)
71x16 = 1136 = the speed of sound
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on October 12, 2007, 05:58:50 AM
Very interesting.  The Egyptian topic has always interested me, and I believe they were perhaps more advanced than we our today.  Seems like that lens shape relates too.

Ed Leedskalnin's secret -

"The Secret To The Universe Is 7129 / 6105195."

I found this on the web -

cos(6105195) = cos(45)
45x16 = 720 = 360x2 = 2 rings

cos(7129) = cos(71)
71x16 = 1136 = the speed of sound

At least someone is up tonight  ;D

The lens - potential energy can be focused - much like light through a lens.

The forks - a fork will "resonate" with another of the same frequency.  Strike one and the other will also vibrate.  So, find a huge source of vibrating energy and you can couple to it through "resonance" if you can make a device that resonates in the same medium.  For example: tuning forks resonate via a medium of air.

On the Leedskalnin cipher:

Two rings or two revolutions.  Infinity symbol or "mobius" is two rings or revolutions.

Speed of sound - I have no idea how that relates.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: helmut on October 12, 2007, 07:26:50 AM
Just as an Idea see my Interpretation
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: acerzw on October 13, 2007, 01:59:16 AM
The item described as a reflector might be any Egyptian 'singing bowl' listen to the mp3 on this link of a bowl working....

http://www.sacredwaves.com/egyptian_blue_bowls.htm

It might not be a coincidence that the Tibetans, who are also supposed to levitate stone have them..

http://www.sacredwaves.com/tibetan_bowls.htm

also note:

An ankh shaped piece of metal when connected to the handle of a tuning fork makes the sound last three times longer by passing the vibrations back into the forks body...

Egyptian tuning forks had something strung between the fork tines and this was plucked with the handle placed on the object to be resonated...

The tuning fork could be used to resonate the bowl....

Acerzw...
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: helmut on October 13, 2007, 02:08:06 AM
The item described as a reflector might be any Egyptian 'singing bowl' listen to the mp3 on this link of a bowl working....

http://www.sacredwaves.com/egyptian_blue_bowls.htm

An ankh shaped piece of metal when connected to the handle of a tuning fork makes the sound last three times longer by passing the vibrations back into the forks body...

Egyptian tuning forks had something strung between the fork tines and this was plucked with the handle placed on the object to be resonated...

This suggests the tuning fork could be used to resonate the bowl....

Acerzw...

Hi
It might be...or not   i dont know.

helmut
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: acerzw on October 13, 2007, 04:35:16 AM
Take a look at this also:

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/ship.htm

and this:

Egyptian Meru

a rectangular stone is covered on 4 sides with wet papyrus. A specially carved wooden rod is struck against the uncovered stone face and removed. While holding the rod, the vibrations will continue to increase, at the greatest amplitude, the rod is re- applied to the exposed stone face. The energy from the rod will suffuse through the stone, alter the neutral center aether flow by stimulated kindling and cause temporary levitation.

Acerzw
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: acerzw on October 13, 2007, 11:30:01 AM

it has a better picture of the forks, less cropped as well as many other interesting images...

This Egyptian image seems like instructions, a sequence of steps, a demonstration of a principle...

We need to decode this...

Acerzw
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Esa Maunu on October 13, 2007, 02:24:59 PM
Stone has a crystallic structure, and when it vibrates, an electromagnetic field is created around the stone because of the piezo effect. If this electromagnetic field has a nested cylindrical form, it can form an local overpressure in a zpe field, and this causes a repulsion against other mass structures ( earth ).

Esa

Take a look at this also:

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/ship.htm

and this:

Egyptian Meru

a rectangular stone is covered on 4 sides with wet papyrus. A specially carved wooden rod is struck against the uncovered stone face and removed. While holding the rod, the vibrations will continue to increase, at the greatest amplitude, the rod is re- applied to the exposed stone face. The energy from the rod will suffuse through the stone, alter the neutral center aether flow by stimulated kindling and cause temporary levitation.

Acerzw
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: acerzw on October 14, 2007, 02:34:18 AM
I am thinking that the 'four leaf clover' symbol might be a resonant chamber with four lobes each with a hole in the end, where sound waves from a tuning fork could be introduced...

If an Egyptian 'singing bowl' was made of the same material as the resonant chamber and shaped correctly, surely it would resonate sympathetically to the frequency produced inside the chamber. The purpose of the resonant chamber would therefore be to 'construct' a higher frequency, via heterodyning, which could not normally be produced in an open vessel like a bowl, using multiple tuning forks placed at the mouth of each 'lobe'...

Since the bowl would then resonate sympathetically at this new higher frequency anything placed in it would be subjected to the effect of it, without the handicap of being in a resonant chamber where it could not easily be observed (no glass for windows in the resonant chamber) or touched...

Note as stated in my previous post, the tuning forks could have had an Ankh shaped part attached to the end opposite the tines, which would allow the fork to vibrate 3 times longer than normal.. from the short source document I found:

"Some years ago an American friend picked the lock of a door leading to an Egyptian museum store-room measuring approx 8 feet x ten feet. Inside she found "hundreds" of what she described as "tuning forks". These ranged in size from approx 8 inches to approx 8 or 9 feet overall length, and resembled catapults, but with a taut wire stretched between the tines of the "fork". She insists, incidentally, that these were definitely not non-ferrous, but "steel". These objects resembled a letter "U" with a handle (a bit like a pitchfork) and, when the wire was plucked, they vibrated for a prolonged period. It occurs to me to wonder if these devices might have had hardened tool-bits attached to the bottom of their handles and if they might have been used for cutting or engraving stone, once they had been set vibrating."

I guess there could be multiple 'pickups' for this device, one resonant chamber, as many bowls as needed... a distributed system...

I can envisage several uses for such a resonant broadcasting device, nothing to stop it having many different uses controlled by the frequencies used and the contents of the bowl, again not sure if these are all feasible but how about: decomposition of substances (ground rocks) into their constituent elementary substances, boiling fluids, catalysing chemical reactions, plating or electrolysis... applications in levitation or acoustic superconducting also come to mind...

It also begs the question, as mentioned in the above quote, what if the resonant devices were in the shape of something other than a bowl, such as the rods the god statues have in their hands... maybe they had power chisels as suggested or even I would go one step further and say crystal lasers!

Crikey... lasers, what on earth use could they have for them, well certainly not CD players... and no pesky PowerPoint 'Visions & Values' slideshows for Pharaohs... Oh well, how's about as precision rulers for use over short and large distances... what on earth would they need them for... and they could cut their watermelon with lasers.. . no need for washing up any messy animal bone knives...

So perhaps marking, cutting and moving those stone blocks for the pyramids was not too hard after all!

Note just because the Egyptians recorded this does not mean they originated it, it could have easily been handed down by verbal tradition from an advanced culture in pre-history. It is not necessary for them to have used or understood it but merely to have had stories of it passed to them, indeed their own later pyramid building efforts suggest that they did not understand it. However it might have formed an important part of their Pharaohs 'initiation' ceremony so they dutifully document it, like much else, without realising what it really represented. Or on the other hand Thoth who gave them their science could have instructed this panel to be made, and then he left it as an additional clue to humanity along with the Pyramid and the Emerald Tablets... that things had once been less primitive, or indeed he may have hoped that the diagram would lead to the technology being redeveloped later, saving many years of re-inventing the wheel (we wish).

Well a wacky theory anyway, not sure I understand the concept of sympathetic resonance enough to know whether what I envisage is possible...

So I have asked hans 'The Master of Vibration' to comment on this... after all it could just be hypothetical BS on my part... but it does kind'a make a fun story! Well you just know they had to advertise them too... could you imagine  >:(

Acerzw  :) ;) >:( :( :o ::) :P

p.s. a link to the page which has the tuning fork document quoted from above as well as some other interesting but slightly more dubious pyramid related stuff:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/pyramidsindex.htm
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: hansvonlieven on October 14, 2007, 10:32:29 PM
G?day all,

Thanks acer for putting me on the spot. :D And please leave the ?Master of Vibrations? bullshit out of it. At best I am a ?student of vibrations? and perhaps not a very good one at that, considering the enormity of the subject.

Nevertheless, I will attempt an interpretation of the symbols, only using established knowledge of acoustics and resonance.

It is always difficult to interpret symbols, as they can be arbitrary as to their meaning, though in this case there is reason to think that the depictions were meant to be understood by someone with some knowledge of acoustics and are perhaps more diagrammatic rather than symbolic.

I will start with some obvious observations that are perhaps speculative but appear at least reasonable. The diagram appears to be composed of a group of symbols that starts with what looks like a bowl and finishes with another ?bowl? of the same dimensions.

Taking this as a group we notice that these symbols appear out of character with the rest of the hieroglyphics on the monument. Sort of like a diagram in a body of text.

(http://www.keelytech.com/overunity/hieroglyphics.jpg)

Arranging the symbols in a for us more readable form from left to right we arrive at diagram B.

From my very limited studies of Egyptian Hieroglyphics a very long time ago I seem to remember that symbols are always written facing the same way, regardless of their real orientation in space. Taking the liberty of re-arranging two of the symbols to face in the opposite direction we arrive at diagram C.

Now we make a startling discovery. What we have here is a very clear, unambiguous depiction of a very real working device, an ACOUSTIC MOTOR !

Let me explain:

Taking the two ?bowls? facing each other to represent two parabolic reflectors we have now between them a mysterious symbol (the flower type symbol) an arrow depicting flow or harmony and two tuning forks.

As to the tuning forks, the writer gives clear instructions of how they should be constructed. The left fork has two dividing lines, the right fork three. The symbol between shows the relationship. It clearly shows that the one division on the right is equal to two divisions on the left. In other words the right fork resonates at half the wavelength or twice the frequency, which would put the tuning of the forks exactly one octave apart. (first harmonic)

The arrow indicates to me that they should be tuned to a harmonic of the last symbol in the group.

So what is this last mysterious symbol that ties it all together and makes the thing work. I believe this symbol represents an acoustic turbine. Like this:

(http://www.keelytech.com/koenig23a.jpg)
For a description of the device and what it does see:

http://www.keelytech.com/forum.html

It also goes into the ongoing dispute as to how the turbine works, no proper scientific satisfactory assessment of the principle behind it has been forthcoming. That is why, since the 1930?s the device is no longer demonstrated in physics classes at universities.

We know that knowledge of harmonics is ancient, going back to the Mesopotamian civilisations and to ancient Egypt. That the Egyptians had devices that operated along those principles is not only possible but probable.

So here, for better or worse is my interpretation of what this ancient writer tried to show us.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Esa Maunu on October 15, 2007, 10:35:38 AM
Maybe it is not needed to modify A picture, there is already two parabolic reflectors to collect the energy density into that object in between. There is a third reflector on the other side of the tuning fork, or prehaps it is in fact a deflector to spread the enegy on the other side to larger area. This can be a energy density changer, and causes energy to flow into given direction, or a drag effect for the sample..

Esa

G?day all,

Thanks acer for putting me on the spot. :D And please leave the ?Master of Vibrations? bullshit out of it. At best I am a ?student of vibrations? and perhaps not a very good one at that, considering the enormity of the subject.

Nevertheless, I will attempt an interpretation of the symbols, only using established knowledge of acoustics and resonance.

It is always difficult to interpret symbols, as they can be arbitrary as to their meaning, though in this case there is reason to think that the depictions were meant to be understood by someone with some knowledge of acoustics and are perhaps more diagrammatic rather than symbolic.

I will start with some obvious observations that are perhaps speculative but appear at least reasonable. The diagram appears to be composed of a group of symbols that starts with what looks like a bowl and finishes with another ?bowl? of the same dimensions.

Taking this as a group we notice that these symbols appear out of character with the rest of the hieroglyphics on the monument. Sort of like a diagram in a body of text.

(http://www.keelytech.com/overunity/hieroglyphics.jpg)

Arranging the symbols in a for us more readable form from left to right we arrive at diagram B.

From my very limited studies of Egyptian Hieroglyphics a very long time ago I seem to remember that symbols are always written facing the same way, regardless of their real orientation in space. Taking the liberty of re-arranging two of the symbols to face in the opposite direction we arrive at diagram C.

Now we make a startling discovery. What we have here is a very clear, unambiguous depiction of a very real working device, an ACOUSTIC MOTOR !

Let me explain:

Taking the two ?bowls? facing each other to represent two parabolic reflectors we have now between them a mysterious symbol (the flower type symbol) an arrow depicting flow or harmony and two tuning forks.

As to the tuning forks, the writer gives clear instructions of how they should be constructed. The left fork has two dividing lines, the right fork three. The symbol between shows the relationship. It clearly shows that the one division on the right is equal to two divisions on the left. In other words the right fork resonates at half the wavelength or twice the frequency, which would put the tuning of the forks exactly one octave apart. (first harmonic)

The arrow indicates to me that they should be tuned to a harmonic of the last symbol in the group.

So what is this last mysterious symbol that ties it all together and makes the thing work. I believe this symbol represents an acoustic turbine. Like this:

(http://www.keelytech.com/koenig23a.jpg)
For a description of the device and what it does see:

http://www.keelytech.com/forum.html

It also goes into the ongoing dispute as to how the turbine works, no proper scientific satisfactory assessment of the principle behind it has been forthcoming. That is why, since the 1930?s the device is no longer demonstrated in physics classes at universities.

We know that knowledge of harmonics is ancient, going back to the Mesopotamian civilisations and to ancient Egypt. That the Egyptians had devices that operated along those principles is not only possible but probable.

So here, for better or worse is my interpretation of what this ancient writer tried to show us.

Hans von Lieven

Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: acerzw on October 15, 2007, 01:31:19 PM
@hans

Thank you for your more serious and much better 'decoding' of what the symbols represent, my calling you the 'Master of Vibrations' was not BS, rather a mark of respect for your knowledge, while you may not know everything there is to know in the area, I was saying it from the point of view of a complete novice regarding acoustics, applying it relatively, in comparison to me (and many other users of this site, I would vouch) it is true. Your possible explanation of the Egyptian device just reaffirms my reason for using it! Apologies... but credit where it is due...

Though my post above about lasers was mainly in jest, if the Egyptians had lasers at least for measuring it would explain a lot... can you think of any way they could create a laser using basic acoustic/resonant technology, bearing in mind that as most think they probably had technology above what 'conventional' science believes, particularly in light of your 'acoustic motor' interpretation... which seems entirely plausible... I was aware of the motor, it is indeed interesting and I hope someone figures out the basic principle behind it soon, since it now appears an important and possibly central key to Egyptian technology may be involved, as I am not aware of any other functional diagrams left by them...

How interesting that much ancient technology appears to have been based on acoustic/resonance, as I am sure you know there are other examples... and so wise the use of sound, supposedly the very motive force of creation, negating the need for the more complex devices which industrialisation can produce, electronics etc. Imagine the effort required to start up the computer industry if some natural disaster occured which caused it to be utterly destroyed, compared to the effort required to restart a technology based on acoustics and resonance... a very simple survival necessiity and one which I think humanity would do well to bear in mind at this time, what with our propensity and Natures to destroy our civilisation periodically... I am thinking Thoth was trying to encourage us to develop such a technology to assure our future... one that is easily reconstructed...

In a sense, to me at least, resonance can be seen as a key to ou... the energy taken to make a 'master vibration'... can be multiplied as many times as you like by having many receiving objects that resonate to it... distributed energy... very much like an audio version of Teslas power distribution system, a clear resonance between Tesla and Keely on this point...

I have read your pages on Keely, they are great, but could you refer me to a source where I can find more general information on how the shape and material composition of an object affects its resonant frequency? Do you know of any information on the resonant frequencies of the elements of the periodic table or how one might calculate them?

Kind Regards

Acerzw
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: helmut on October 15, 2007, 04:05:54 PM
Hi
To me it is objektiv now,that both of the Forks are open at the same direktion.
By this reason ,i think,that it symbolise a beaming  tool.Not a tool,that is able to work in both directions.
The shape of the reflektors make me think,that it is not a acoustic wavelenght.This kind of shape should be
just for higher frequency.If we would go to measure the open angel of the dishes,we
can perhaps figure out,the focus mesurements.
Regarding to the two persons is the picture ,i think,the way,that they have positioned
there fingers,looks like they operate someting.

helmut
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Esa Maunu on October 15, 2007, 04:23:59 PM
It is interesting that those "wires" in between tuning forks seems to form an crossing structure. If a electromagnetic wave is created by vibrating those wires, a rotating polarization is formed.

Esa
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on October 15, 2007, 06:07:00 PM
This may be the source (Sauron's source) of these images:

References lines of "magnetics" or "sound" connecting the forks.

EDIT:

Excerpt:

Quote
Note the 'M' reversing based on the harmonics of the rods.
"M"= Male = 3 = Triad
The tone --->Reverse = "W" = Woman = Aquarius
They each appear to hold a horseshoe magnet
On it's side - Male=3=3D
Side ways -- Balance -- 3 become 2 - balance restored
Should be tuned by a male and a female
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Sauron on October 15, 2007, 07:25:32 PM
This may be the source (Sauron's source) of these images:

Correct.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on October 15, 2007, 08:29:29 PM
I have heard of explanation of electricity that use the terms "male" and "female", but do not know enough to begin a discussion.  It sounds like there is a harmonic relationship that changes one into the other.  So, to say the TPU works between the "electro-magenetic" and "electro-static" may be correct.

The excerpt that is posted was interesting since it mentions 3 becoming 2 and balance being restored.  Looking at the statues, the fork image may be relational to the statues with male on the right and female on the left.

The image of the sun and earth that I posted earlier, is very similar to an image in a book title "Reality Bites Back" written by  George Racz which mentions an electric field stationary wave resonance at 14.336 Hz.  I'm sure on of the many links that George lists on the back of this book is a source of the image.

EDIT:
I believe the TPU is able to connect ot the earth's electrical field, and that this field may be a universal field.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: hansvonlieven on October 15, 2007, 09:18:37 PM
G'day all,

@ acer

You wanted a reference to the resonant frequencies of the elements. Bear in mind that all atomic frequencies are expressed relative to hydrogen1, which is set at 100 MHz.

http://www.eclipse.net/~numare/nsinmrpt.htm  Just click on any element and you have everything right there. A useful tool.

As to your other question, shape and material composition do not affect frequency. Only effective length, tension in a string and volume does in say a cavity. Shape and material composition however do influence the generation of harmonics, favouring some while squashing others. In other words the sound quality (timbre) of a resonant body is determined by material and shape. The fundamental wavelength (resonant frequency) is not.

The best resource for that kind of research is an organ builder's manual from the 18th century. But be warned, not only are they hard to find they are unbelievably difficult to read because of their specialised language. Also everything regarding frequencies etc is expressed in terms of musical notation. As I said on my website, 400 pages of unadulterated "keelyspeech". Having said that, in my view there is no better reference material available for acoustic research.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: turbo on October 15, 2007, 09:26:54 PM
hi Grump
it is intresting you mention the 14Hz frequency because i have seen effects at this frequency in some of my experiments.
i was always thinking it had to do something with the first overtone of the Schumann Resonance frequency table.
on the other hand i also noticed effects in the 2-3 Hz range so it could be there is continuously sweeping something in between the frequencys.
like a wave that is being compressed and expanding all the time.
then it would more likely look like an elipse in stead of a perfect circle.

M.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on October 15, 2007, 09:53:35 PM
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Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on October 15, 2007, 11:24:57 PM
The Electric Sun:

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:4y8gtGrlqdoJ:www.kronia.com/thoth/thoth08.txt+sun+earth+electrostatic+potential&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=19&gl=us

http://www.mirrorpedia.com/wiki/Ralph_Juergens

http://www.kronos-press.com/juergens/k0801-electric-i.htm

EDIT:
http://www.kronos-press.com/juergens/k0802-electric-ii.htm

EDIT:

14.336 Hz is listed in my previous post as referenced in the book "Reality Bites Back" by George Racz.  14.3 Hz is listed one of the Schumann Resonance peaks.  Coincidentally, perhaps.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on October 16, 2007, 01:28:41 AM
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Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on December 26, 2007, 10:33:39 PM
This may be the source (Sauron's source) of these images:

Correct.

and maybe that image of the lines between the tuning forks is a particular form of diagram....
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Localjoe on December 26, 2007, 11:26:26 PM
.. Quick question does any one see the birds above that the one that has what looks to be the right angle symbol in the top right and looks to be a 2 d drawing .. then the glyph above it of  a bird looks to be 3 d.... with depth theres another example of this in the abydos hieroglyphs.. hmmm
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: scotty1 on December 27, 2007, 12:38:02 AM
Hi all....
Firstly...Ed Leedskalnin did not write "the secret of the universe is 7129  6105195"
He wrote the numbers only.
Sun/ Earth connection....my favorite of the week...
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/themis/auroras/two_models.html (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/themis/auroras/two_models.html)
This is what Ed said..."The North lights are caused by the North and South pole magnets passing in concentrated streams, but the streams are not as concentrated as they are in the lightning."
Ed didn't need space probes.
Look at the words the scientists use...DISRUPTION, RECONNECTION, EXPLOSION.
Scotty
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: sparks on December 27, 2007, 01:10:01 AM
I heard tell that the northern lights happen when the magnetosphere of the
Earth gets distorted by electro-magnetic energy from the sun.  This causes the magnetosphere to start messing with the ionosphere.  It even creates magnetic vortexes (light holes?) in the ionosphere.  Well anyway energy gets funneled to the ionosphere and results in light emmission as this energy dances around the ionosphere.  Another funny thing happens at the poles of the magnetosphere.  Millions of pounds of h2 ions travel along the magnetosphere and are expelled into space by virtue of there speed gained traveling along the magnetic lines of force of the magnetosphere.  These scientists who discovered this plasmic flow of h2 theorize that the Earth is slowly loosing it's water into space as a plasmic flow of h2 molecules.   :(  Energy guided by magnetic fields.  Could this be what makes the tpu tick and the Earth keep on spinning?  :o
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: scotty1 on December 27, 2007, 02:42:49 AM
That's very interesting...I was wondering where the H2 went..
I figured since it is so light it would escape...
Had these images in my head of the sun feeding on the Earth  :-\
That was getting kind of weird so i shook it off....i'm weird enough as it is  ;D
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on December 27, 2007, 04:37:09 AM
...
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: scotty1 on December 27, 2007, 10:52:53 PM
some of you might have seen this  before.
Makes you wonder.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: giantkiller on December 28, 2007, 03:43:19 AM
some of you might have seen this  before.
Makes you wonder.

I never doubted.

--giantkiller.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Localjoe on December 28, 2007, 05:09:51 AM
Sawtooth?
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: EMdevices on December 28, 2007, 06:48:59 AM
It's fun to discuss esoteric subjects and Egyptian drawings, but if you're serious about understanding the TPU I suggest revisiting the main thread where all of SM's letters are pasted.

Why study cryptic symbols when you can read what an engineer has to say about his invention?

EM

Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: acerzw on December 28, 2007, 01:37:15 PM
It's fun to discuss esoteric subjects and Egyptian drawings

That's the only excuse I ever needed, however I do see benefit in doing it given what they accomplished using much simpler means, without the need of our industrial manufacturing base. Simpler tech in my mind is always better, easier to produce, more reliable and easier to repair if it goes wrong. It is also easier to examine and experiment with the underlying effect if there are less variables to take into consideration. Just look a what Leedskalnin was able to demonstrate with a simple length of wire and a magnet or two...

A
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: EMdevices on December 28, 2007, 08:57:57 PM
If Egyptians  accomplished great things what about us?  Let's see:  Skyscrapers, huge jets, rockets, going into space, radio communication, mass lighting, mass information and computers, medical expertise unimaginable, etc. Egyptians were a bunch of peasants walking around with loin cloths in the searing heat of the desert, and whipping slaves to stack rocks into pyramid shapes to bury their delusional "god" kings. The whole land was full of mysticism and idolatry.

Is studying this culture going to help you understand a TPU?    Then have it my friend, but I see it as a waste of time.

And what about Leedskalkin?   I live close to his "castle" and it's a joke.   I can lift one of the coral rocks easily with the right leverage.  (coral rock is full of holes, it's like a sponge, very very lightweight for it's volume)    The guy was no different then some people today who tinker with electronics and image all sorts of theories, when in fact modern science is way ahead of them and the knowledge is well understood and explained well in our science books.   These people don't want to read or learn for whatever reason so they find greater joy in rehashing their own theories over and over.  Well that's how I see Leedskalkin,  what he says about magnetism in certain places is quite basic magnetism observations but his language is distinct so people image he's sharing some "great secrets" . And by the way, he did use leverage to build his house ( "castle" ), not some magical secrets or anti gravity like some websites like to fantasize.

And by the way, I agree on the simple tech.  The simpler the more reliable it seems to be.  So don't buy  shoes with freaking  computer chips in them, etc..   Everything has it's place, don't over design either.

EM
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on December 28, 2007, 09:28:56 PM
an ode to Sauron....
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: acerzw on December 28, 2007, 09:45:18 PM
@EMdevices

I'm glad we are clear on that then, Egyptians = bunch of primitives! So what's your theory on how the pyramids were built then?  Sand ramps and wooden rollers?

@Grumpy

Apologies for my ignorance... but what does that mean?

A
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on December 28, 2007, 10:16:58 PM
@EMdevices

I'm glad we are clear on that then, Egyptians = bunch of primitives! So what's your theory on how the pyramids were built then?  Sand ramps and wooden rollers?

@Grumpy

Apologies for my ignorance... but what does that mean?

A

What does everyone do on this forum?  Just sit around, scratching there ass, picking their nose, and waiting for the ship to come in?!!?

You can't even cut and past it into Google, but you want "overunity", "free energy", the keys to the palace, knowledge, answers, a free freakin' ride!

You want to know what it means?

It means:

Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: EMdevices on December 28, 2007, 10:22:25 PM
Grumpy is not good at explaining things,  is he?     LOL  :D  :D :)
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Localjoe on December 28, 2007, 10:56:52 PM
Thats just homicidal enthusiasm .. no  worries :)  Just do as instructed and grown on your own..
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: sparks on December 28, 2007, 11:01:20 PM
http://ancientskyscraper.com/

The above link is to a site where there is considerable work done on ancient  electrical systems.  Seems the Egyptians knew about making batteries.  The tuning bars with wires between them and what appears as torches on the tips of the forks looks pretty much like the telephone poles outside my business here.  It may have profounder meanings I just don't know.  Don't underestimate ancient civilizations (I'm talking about ones that came before the Egyptian civilization".  Look how our ancestors of a couple hundred years ago were living.  Man has been around in present day form for a million years.  Good chance someone figured out electricity a long long time ago.  Savages probably ate these civilizations up or they got smart enough to get the hell out of here and left the planet to the barbaryanns and other smart monkeys.  Anyway the site above is loaded with ancient electrical stuff.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on December 29, 2007, 12:03:53 AM
Just "pissin' in the wind" with this thread...
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Freezer on December 29, 2007, 01:51:39 AM
If Egyptians  accomplished great things what about us?  Let's see:  Skyscrapers, huge jets, rockets, going into space, radio communication, mass lighting, mass information and computers, medical expertise unimaginable, etc. Egyptians were a bunch of peasants walking around with loin cloths in the searing heat of the desert, and whipping slaves to stack rocks into pyramid shapes to bury their delusional "god" kings. The whole land was full of mysticism and idolatry.

Is studying this culture going to help you understand a TPU?    Then have it my friend, but I see it as a waste of time.

And what about Leedskalkin?   I live close to his "castle" and it's a joke.   I can lift one of the coral rocks easily with the right leverage.  (coral rock is full of holes, it's like a sponge, very very lightweight for it's volume)    The guy was no different then some people today who tinker with electronics and image all sorts of theories, when in fact modern science is way ahead of them and the knowledge is well understood and explained well in our science books.   These people don't want to read or learn for whatever reason so they find greater joy in rehashing their own theories over and over.  Well that's how I see Leedskalkin,  what he says about magnetism in certain places is quite basic magnetism observations but his language is distinct so people image he's sharing some "great secrets" . And by the way, he did use leverage to build his house ( "castle" ), not some magical secrets or anti gravity like some websites like to fantasize.

And by the way, I agree on the simple tech.  The simpler the more reliable it seems to be.  So don't buy  shoes with freaking  computer chips in them, etc..   Everything has it's place, don't over design either.

EM

So you can lift a 200 ton block easily huh?  Lets see it.  The pyramids are more than you could ever imagine it too be.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: EMdevices on December 29, 2007, 02:35:37 AM
Here's a few wrong statements one can find on the internet.  I guess if you've never been there or looked at and handled coral rock you won't understand.

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...He used huge blocks of coral rock, some weighing as much as 30 tons..

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His coral building blocks included stones weighing twice the weight of the largest block of the Great Pyramid.

The picture is to give you a perspective of size.  When I first went there I was totally disappointed, you can even look over the fence everything is so tiny compared with how it's made out to look in advertisements.  Also coral rock has a rough texture and you can put different pieces together with a binding agent and make it look like it's one piece, a true mason has quite a few tricks up it's sleeve.

Even the Piramid rocks, they're big, but not something totaly unbelivable.  With a few rolers and lots of leverage and a few years, things got done little by little.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: supersam on December 29, 2007, 02:38:28 AM
@ all,

i just couldn't resist, yes if it's rigged right, all i have to do is pull back on the lever.  or in the case of the two hundred ton dome on top of the containment building increase the air pressure below by one pound per square inch.

lol
sam

ps:   what does that have to do with a tpu?  another thread please, go to the pyramid thread and see what you can do with 250mV.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: scotty1 on December 29, 2007, 06:35:44 AM
For anyone to say that we should only work with modern theory, they are fooling themselves if they think it will give them OU.
The TPU is OU and cannot be defined by current electron theory...
No free electricity in the text books! so by reasoning no TPU!
Emdevices cannot have both.
So you need a new theory for everything so you can have OU.
Ed Leedkalnin gave you one, but as usual...a dear with no eyes.  :o
"They are in constant motion, they are running one kind against the other kind, and if guided in the right channels they possess perpetual power" ED.
Ed made what is like a TPU and demonstrated by experimentation (which i have replicated) that a current was flowing in the metal ring the same way it does in a copper wire.
I HAVE YET TO SEE THAT IN THE TEXTBOOKS
According to them, there is no motion in a closed magnetic circuit...but to Ed there is...which would be good for TPU theories.
Ed's notes are about things like this.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/themis/auroras/two_models.html (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/themis/auroras/two_models.html)
Which is also good for the TPU...i suppose  ;D if it is really real  ???
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: sparks on December 29, 2007, 06:02:59 PM
@Scotty1

I believe magnetism is an effect or force that is experienced when what is now being referred to as black energy meets vortex energy.   Black energy is always trying to create a very uniform distribution of itself.  It will flow only in an attempt to reach a state of equilibrium relative to itself.  It wants to be everywhere at the same magnitude all the time.  I believe it is not so much energy but is a Force or Will that wants everything kinda quiet.  It is pushing galaxies around,  not because it hates them,  it just wants this part of the Universe to quiet down and become equalized.
Then there is the other side of the coin I call vortex energy.  This Force or Will wants everything to concentrate. It's will is experienced by us in what we call gravity. It wants everything to concentrate into one single point.  We see it's minor success story when a Star implodes or a meteor vaporizes and becomes part of a planet.  A more successful scene is when a complete galaxy is concentrated in a baseball sized form of being, like a black hole.
With the above in mind,  I state that Marks'  tpu is a large model of an electron or a small model of a planet with a minor modification.  A third will is brought into play. The usual dance between the equilibrium and concentration wills is upset. I believe that all is structured by these two wills at play.
In the normal course of things there would be an oscillation of being, governed by the two essential wills.  I believe this is what gives rise to wave propogation and electron spin etc.  By creating a sceanario whereby the "natural" dispersion of concentrated quonta is controlled by man, through a manmade energy flow circuit,  man can now manipulate the essential wills play to his advantage. The tpu device is surely not the only assembly of quonta by man that will allow for this. More study of the interplay of the two essential wills,  concentration and dispersion, can and hopefully will result in mankind's form of being,  improved to a state of harmony, peace and prosperity unprecedented in history.  Sorry Grumpy for clouding your thread.  But I had the New Year spirit descend upon me and it taketh up my fingers and typist I must. This time it came in the form of 4 cups of coffee and 10 cigarettes and a good nights rest the night before.    ::)
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: scotty1 on December 30, 2007, 12:16:53 AM
Ed describes his PMH (perpetual motion holder) as the same as an atom.
This means that the atom drawings are wrong.
When i break the orbit of my pmh then i get a flash of light...and when Ed reduced radioactive material very small, then he saw no more rays but he saw sparks coming out like the sparks from tapping a battery terminal, but with out the red sparks.
The sparks are caused when an atom orbit is broken in the radioactive material by the free magnets that are circulating around the Earth.
Not only that but the radiation is directional too!
Black holes? Lets see
Abstract
We describe twisted configurations of complex massless scalar field on the Kerr black holes as the sections of complex line bundles over the Kerr black hole topology R2 ? S2. From a physical point of view the appearance of twisted configurations is linked with the natural presence of Dirac monopoles that arise as connections in the above line bundles. The monopole masses are estimated and it is shown that the given monopoles might reside in the Kerr black holes as quantum objects. Some possible further applications are also outlined.
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monopole masses hey?
The North and South pole magnets...they are the cosmic force, whatever you want to call it.....how can you observe them when you yourselves radiate them?
They are so small they can pass through everything...unlike light that we see.
Light is the PRODUCT OF OBSTRUCTION. Light is only made when matter is consumed.
"Electrons are very small parts of matter that come out of the cathode while the cathode is burned up or consumed in the vacume tube" Ed. L
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It is well known that certain radiations, such as those from ultra-violet or cathodic..possess the property of charging and discharging conductors of electricity...These radiations are generally considered to be ether vibrations of extremely small wavelength's......
My own experiments and observations however, lead me to conclude....that sources of such radiant energy throw off with great velocity, minute particles of matter which are strongly electrified......Nikloa Tesla....
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The trouble with the scientists is that they use indirect methods to come to their conclusions...they even admit it!!!  ;D
These were the things that Ed would have read.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Pirate88179 on December 30, 2007, 02:12:22 AM
Ed Leedskalnin was a genius in my opinion.  I have a copy of all of his available writings.  Ok, so some of his stuff about how a woman should conduct herself might be considered a little strange today but, the science stuff is incredible.  I remember one thing he said that went something like this..."Once you start the magnets to running, they will run forever."  I believe that by magnets he might be speaking of electrons?  He was off the grid but made his own electricity to light the place.  I have posted a picture of what they believe to have been his generator, (on another thread) a few turns to get it going and....poof! Lights all night.  We have to learn from the past otherwise, each "new" society has to literally reinvent the wheel.

Oh, just as an aside, I was watching a special on the pyramids hosted by a pyramid scholar who said that they were not burial tombs.  No one was ever buried in a pyramid.  That is what he said...I really don't know.

"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. (Santiago)

Bill
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on January 03, 2008, 03:51:56 PM
By the way here is an interesting book by Donald E. Scott, The Electric Sky, available on Amazon, 248 pages.
A Challenge to the Myths of Modern Astronomy. It is a real eye opener when it comes to how the Universe really works.
Really shoots a lot holes through current thinking of how things work.

More from author Donald Scott:

http://members.cox.net/dascott3/index.htm
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/Rejoinder.htm

Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: innovation_station on January 03, 2008, 04:10:25 PM
;D ;D

well all

in all the info posted  i just saw i very important link in this thread i have worked off of

in fact it could be the most important stuff i have seen on all of ou  ;)

i will not repeat the link as if you are sharp enough you will find very deep answers on that link i speak of

it is all there

btw it has little to do with the tpu  ;)

and a lot to do with how things work meaning all things

ist
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Grumpy on January 08, 2008, 10:38:07 PM
retracted

Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: sparks on January 09, 2008, 07:21:52 PM
Grumpy great picture.   See how the Earth manages to exist in the face of a great adversity.  It has often been said that Earth is the water planet,  bullshit it is an iron planet.  Without the magnetic permeability of the Earth's core there would be no earth, and there surer than shit would be no water round here.  As it is Earth is loosing it's hydrogen as I type.  Look at little old mercury. way closer to the sun than Earth, should have been a part of the Sun millenia ago but she has iron fortification. It takes the  the magnetic properties of an iron cored planet allows it to convert enormous amounts of electro-magnetic wave energy into spin and orbit of itself.  Look at Mars.  It once had Oceans.  It lost the Oceans just like Earth did at the poles.  Right know Earth is loosing hydrogen ions at the poles in a plasmic unending flow of Energy/mass. Earth is a little bigger than Mars so it is taking longer but someday Earth will be a big old desert. :'(  She'll keep on spinning and orbiting, just no water no atmosphere;  unless an ancient comet  sets down and fills her back up.  Maybe the comet will blow a little iron into space and there will be two moons.  The magnetoshield ( I'll call it) isn't perfect.  It is working on the big waves.  So it lets the minor stuff in.  Like light.  Damn good thing too.  Look at what lifeform has been here the longest, most diverse, and I find the most beautiful.  The plants.  Now if there is an energy wave from the Sun that is around, (that we are trying to tap into), I would think that the life force would have exploited it by now.  Maybe it has and there is a whole construct of being on Earth that assembles itself by capturing infrared on down.  If there is they must be getting really pissed off at mankind's activites.  Neuclear bombs and all sorts of rf transmissions. Probably took off for Mar's along time ago. ???
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: sparks on January 11, 2008, 05:50:04 PM

I think a significant amount of collectible energy on Earth that is always around lies in the infrared spectrum.  The sun continuously supplying sunlight and the Earth's surface converting it into infrared.  Just a thought about SM's special frequency of conversion.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: giantkiller on January 11, 2008, 07:05:21 PM
By the way here is an interesting book by Donald E. Scott, The Electric Sky, available on Amazon, 248 pages.
A Challenge to the Myths of Modern Astronomy. It is a real eye opener when it comes to how the Universe really works.
Really shoots a lot holes through current thinking of how things work.

More from author Donald Scott:

http://members.cox.net/dascott3/index.htm
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/Rejoinder.htm

Yes Sir, It is! We who know electricity are light yeaps ahead of the astronomers. I would be embarassed to be an astronomer at this time.

--giantkiller.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: acerzw on January 11, 2008, 09:04:32 PM
Ha Ha

Watch This:

http://www.nasa.gov/mov/133778main_FUV_640x480.mov

and this:

http://www.nasa.gov/mov/105423main_FUV_2005-01_v01.mov

From Nasa no less!

Hmmm.....

A
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: sparks on January 15, 2008, 07:14:20 PM
@Acer

What kind of imaging is that.  Magnetic Resonance   ::)

@gk and acer

Thanks
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Siphon?Arch on February 02, 2008, 06:08:39 PM
With all sincerity I believe this subject is very complex and if you specialize in magnetics or currents or electricity or harmonics that will only give you a piece of the puzzle. The drawings left for anyone who wants to "duplicate" their technology was made with thee most basic forms of communication, pictures. I say thee most basic because facial expressions, music, or hand gestures are not possible anymore.
The egyptians created (or it was given to them) there entire society on their technology, but they were not the only ones who understood this power, other parts of the world had this knowledge -  stonehenge, himalayas, americas, someone's back yard in florida. Tesla said he could even control the weather after being able to make enough wardenclyffe towers, something i believe. John Keeley work with harmonics provides more size to scale energy than anything available today.
Growing up I had this incredible feeling that everything in the world today was fundamentaly wrong, going to school i felt my science orientated classes gave the wrong information. Only under my own studies have I found that the only way you can learn anything is by accepting what is given to you and going from there and not trying to decipher something that is as plain as nature itself.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: sparks on February 02, 2008, 08:47:04 PM
It's astounding that the Earth exists at all when you consider the constant barrage of solar power it exists in.  (see below).  I believe that the magnetosphere and an electrical vortex current that propogates it allow for the planet to be. The magnetosphere converts the solar wind to a geovortex  current which sustains the magnetosphere and couples with the Earth's core and creates planetary spin.  This spin allows for collected thermal energy on the dayside to be radiated on the nightside. It also encapsulates the ionosphere which again absorbs and radiates solar power.  Perphaps by study of this mechanism a better understanding of SM's tpu overunity phenomenon can be achieved.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: allcanadian on February 02, 2008, 09:47:50 PM
@Hans
Regarding your post on the acoustic turbine, I think most any chamber with a hole in one end when set up with a resonant vibration will produce a unidirectional impulse. It has more to do with the opening than anything else, here is a link to a neat steam boat using this principal---- http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass/pop-pop/aapt/crane.htm

The basic premise is that a suction force through an opening pulls from all directions including from the sides while a pressure force will only push away from the opening, the difference in forces because of  the inward pull from the sides amounts to a propulsive force in one direction, pulse jet engines use this technique as well. Victor Schauberger knew this fact very well, he also knew that a suction force is self organizing with very few turbulence losses. I have verified this fact when building an evaporation cooler, I could achieve a 60% increase in flow rate by pulling a suction force through my exchanger versus pushing it through.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: supersam on February 02, 2008, 10:40:45 PM

you should see a several hundred thousand pound, dome being lifted to the top of a containment building with one pound per sqare inch.  now that is sweet.

lol
sam
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Schpankme on February 03, 2008, 12:21:42 AM
From the picture, the EARTH looks to be functioning as a Wick.

"Fluid (energy) is conducted from a zone of higher (+) fluid (energy) matric potential to a zone of lower (Ã¢Ë†â€™) fluid (energy) matric potential utilizing a tubarc porous structure."

- Schpankme
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on February 03, 2008, 01:51:05 AM

Reportedly the secretive H.A.A.R.P. power grid in Alaska is capable of directing powerful beams over a wide or narrow spread area - maybe those were old promo images presented at a black opps budget meeting :)

Regards...

Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: sparks on February 03, 2008, 09:11:08 PM
What the picture doesn't show are the Birkeland plasma currents sneaking up the tail of the magnetosphere and whipping it around millions of miles in space.  Could Coronal heating be due to these currents which are coming from outside the solar system?  The sun just an electro-magnetic vortex construct in this sea of plasmic electrical energy,  feeding off the Corona not creating it.  If this is the case then perhaps these Birkeland currents are not all DC but have a repetitive amplitude frequency component..  This frequency could give rise to Earth's 8hz Schumann Cavity resonance.  Life in the cavity beating to the throb of an extrasolar energy propogator.   ???  Didn't Tesla say he received messages from outside our planet?  Maybe they came in on the 8hz waves that define the Earth's electrical equilibrium state.  Perhaps our radio telescopes should be scanning the 8hz band for scalar wave energy travelling inside plasmic flows at superluminal speeds.  All of a sudden those lightyears away planets aren't so far away.
Title: Re: Sun-Earth Potential
Post by: clearchrome on November 24, 2018, 05:24:08 AM
I am thinking that the 'four leaf clover' symbol might be a resonant chamber with four lobes each with a hole in the end, where sound waves from a tuning fork could be introduced...

If an Egyptian 'singing bowl' was made of the same material as the resonant chamber and shaped correctly, surely it would resonate sympathetically to the frequency produced inside the chamber. The purpose of the resonant chamber would therefore be to 'construct' a higher frequency, via heterodyning, which could not normally be produced in an open vessel like a bowl, using multiple tuning forks placed at the mouth of each 'lobe'...

Since the bowl would then resonate sympathetically at this new higher frequency anything placed in it would be subjected to the effect of it, without the handicap of being in a resonant chamber where it could not easily be observed (no glass for windows in the resonant chamber) or touched...

Note as stated in my previous post, the tuning forks could have had an Ankh shaped part attached to the end opposite the tines, which would allow the fork to vibrate 3 times longer than normal.. from the short source document I found:

"Some years ago an American friend picked the lock of a door leading to an Egyptian museum store-room measuring approx 8 feet x ten feet. Inside she found "hundreds" of what she described as "tuning forks". These ranged in size from approx 8 inches to approx 8 or 9 feet overall length, and resembled catapults, but with a taut wire stretched between the tines of the "fork". She insists, incidentally, that these were definitely not non-ferrous, but "steel". These objects resembled a letter "U" with a handle (a bit like a pitchfork) and, when the wire was plucked, they vibrated for a prolonged period. It occurs to me to wonder if these devices might have had hardened tool-bits attached to the bottom of their handles and if they might have been used for cutting or engraving stone, once they had been set vibrating."

I guess there could be multiple 'pickups' for this device, one resonant chamber, as many bowls as needed... a distributed system...

I can envisage several uses for such a resonant broadcasting device, nothing to stop it having many different uses controlled by the frequencies used and the contents of the bowl, again not sure if these are all feasible but how about: decomposition of substances (ground rocks) into their constituent elementary substances, boiling fluids, catalysing chemical reactions, plating or electrolysis... applications in levitation or acoustic superconducting also come to mind...

It also begs the question, as mentioned in the above quote, what if the resonant devices were in the shape of something other than a bowl, such as the rods the god statues have in their hands... maybe they had power chisels as suggested or even I would go one step further and say crystal lasers!

Crikey... lasers, what on earth use could they have for them, well certainly not CD players... and no pesky PowerPoint 'Visions & Values' slideshows for Pharaohs... Oh well, how's about as precision rulers for use over short and large distances... what on earth would they need them for... and they could cut their watermelon with lasers.. . no need for washing up any messy animal bone knives...

So perhaps marking, cutting and moving those stone blocks for the pyramids was not too hard after all!

Note just because the Egyptians recorded this does not mean they originated it, it could have easily been handed down by verbal tradition from an advanced culture in pre-history. It is not necessary for them to have used or understood it but merely to have had stories of it passed to them, indeed their own later pyramid building efforts suggest that they did not understand it. However it might have formed an important part of their Pharaohs 'initiation' ceremony so they dutifully document it, like much else, without realising what it really represented. Or on the other hand Thoth who gave them their science could have instructed this panel to be made, and then he left it as an additional clue to humanity along with the Pyramid and the Emerald Tablets... that things had once been less primitive, or indeed he may have hoped that the diagram would lead to the technology being redeveloped later, saving many years of re-inventing the wheel (we wish).

Well a wacky theory anyway, not sure I understand the concept of sympathetic resonance enough to know whether what I envisage is possible...

So I have asked hans 'The Master of Vibration' to comment on this... after all it could just be hypothetical BS on my part... but it does kind'a make a fun story! Well you just know they had to advertise them too... could you imagine  >:(

Acerzw  :) ;) >:( :( :o ::) :P

p.s. a link to the page which has the tuning fork document quoted from above as well as some other interesting but slightly more dubious pyramid related stuff:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/pyramidsindex.htm (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/pyramidsindex.htm)

I found an interesting link between the forks and signing stones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX2P8utjk3A