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scotty1

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2007, 06:35:44 AM »
For anyone to say that we should only work with modern theory, they are fooling themselves if they think it will give them OU.
The TPU is OU and cannot be defined by current electron theory...
No free electricity in the text books! so by reasoning no TPU!
Emdevices cannot have both.
So you need a new theory for everything so you can have OU.
Ed Leedkalnin gave you one, but as usual...a dear with no eyes.  :o
"They are in constant motion, they are running one kind against the other kind, and if guided in the right channels they possess perpetual power" ED.
Ed made what is like a TPU and demonstrated by experimentation (which i have replicated) that a current was flowing in the metal ring the same way it does in a copper wire.
I HAVE YET TO SEE THAT IN THE TEXTBOOKS
According to them, there is no motion in a closed magnetic circuit...but to Ed there is...which would be good for TPU theories.
Ed's notes are about things like this.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/themis/auroras/two_models.html
Which is also good for the TPU...i suppose  ;D if it is really real  ???

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2007, 06:02:59 PM »
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   I believe magnetism is an effect or force that is experienced when what is now being referred to as black energy meets vortex energy.   Black energy is always trying to create a very uniform distribution of itself.  It will flow only in an attempt to reach a state of equilibrium relative to itself.  It wants to be everywhere at the same magnitude all the time.  I believe it is not so much energy but is a Force or Will that wants everything kinda quiet.  It is pushing galaxies around,  not because it hates them,  it just wants this part of the Universe to quiet down and become equalized.
   Then there is the other side of the coin I call vortex energy.  This Force or Will wants everything to concentrate. It's will is experienced by us in what we call gravity. It wants everything to concentrate into one single point.  We see it's minor success story when a Star implodes or a meteor vaporizes and becomes part of a planet.  A more successful scene is when a complete galaxy is concentrated in a baseball sized form of being, like a black hole.
    With the above in mind,  I state that Marks'  tpu is a large model of an electron or a small model of a planet with a minor modification.  A third will is brought into play. The usual dance between the equilibrium and concentration wills is upset. I believe that all is structured by these two wills at play.
In the normal course of things there would be an oscillation of being, governed by the two essential wills.  I believe this is what gives rise to wave propogation and electron spin etc.  By creating a sceanario whereby the "natural" dispersion of concentrated quonta is controlled by man, through a manmade energy flow circuit,  man can now manipulate the essential wills play to his advantage. The tpu device is surely not the only assembly of quonta by man that will allow for this. More study of the interplay of the two essential wills,  concentration and dispersion, can and hopefully will result in mankind's form of being,  improved to a state of harmony, peace and prosperity unprecedented in history.  Sorry Grumpy for clouding your thread.  But I had the New Year spirit descend upon me and it taketh up my fingers and typist I must. This time it came in the form of 4 cups of coffee and 10 cigarettes and a good nights rest the night before.    ::)
« Last Edit: December 29, 2007, 11:18:45 PM by sparks »

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2007, 12:16:53 AM »
Ed describes his PMH (perpetual motion holder) as the same as an atom.
This means that the atom drawings are wrong.
When i break the orbit of my pmh then i get a flash of light...and when Ed reduced radioactive material very small, then he saw no more rays but he saw sparks coming out like the sparks from tapping a battery terminal, but with out the red sparks.
The sparks are caused when an atom orbit is broken in the radioactive material by the free magnets that are circulating around the Earth.
Not only that but the radiation is directional too!
Black holes? Lets see
Abstract
We describe twisted configurations of complex massless scalar field on the Kerr black holes as the sections of complex line bundles over the Kerr black hole topology R2 ? S2. From a physical point of view the appearance of twisted configurations is linked with the natural presence of Dirac monopoles that arise as connections in the above line bundles. The monopole masses are estimated and it is shown that the given monopoles might reside in the Kerr black holes as quantum objects. Some possible further applications are also outlined.
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monopole masses hey?
The North and South pole magnets...they are the cosmic force, whatever you want to call it.....how can you observe them when you yourselves radiate them?
They are so small they can pass through everything...unlike light that we see.
Light is the PRODUCT OF OBSTRUCTION. Light is only made when matter is consumed.
"Electrons are very small parts of matter that come out of the cathode while the cathode is burned up or consumed in the vacume tube" Ed. L
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It is well known that certain radiations, such as those from ultra-violet or cathodic..possess the property of charging and discharging conductors of electricity...These radiations are generally considered to be ether vibrations of extremely small wavelength's......
My own experiments and observations however, lead me to conclude....that sources of such radiant energy throw off with great velocity, minute particles of matter which are strongly electrified......Nikloa Tesla....
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The trouble with the scientists is that they use indirect methods to come to their conclusions...they even admit it!!!  ;D
These were the things that Ed would have read.

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2007, 02:12:22 AM »
Ed Leedskalnin was a genius in my opinion.  I have a copy of all of his available writings.  Ok, so some of his stuff about how a woman should conduct herself might be considered a little strange today but, the science stuff is incredible.  I remember one thing he said that went something like this..."Once you start the magnets to running, they will run forever."  I believe that by magnets he might be speaking of electrons?  He was off the grid but made his own electricity to light the place.  I have posted a picture of what they believe to have been his generator, (on another thread) a few turns to get it going and....poof! Lights all night.  We have to learn from the past otherwise, each "new" society has to literally reinvent the wheel.

Oh, just as an aside, I was watching a special on the pyramids hosted by a pyramid scholar who said that they were not burial tombs.  No one was ever buried in a pyramid.  That is what he said...I really don't know.

"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. (Santiago)

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2008, 03:51:56 PM »
By the way here is an interesting book by Donald E. Scott, The Electric Sky, available on Amazon, 248 pages.
A Challenge to the Myths of Modern Astronomy. It is a real eye opener when it comes to how the Universe really works.
Really shoots a lot holes through current thinking of how things work. 

More from author Donald Scott:

http://members.cox.net/dascott3/index.htm
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/Rejoinder.htm

« Last Edit: January 10, 2008, 05:13:44 PM by Grumpy »

innovation_station

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2008, 04:10:25 PM »
 ;D ;D

well all

in all the info posted  i just saw i very important link in this thread i have worked off of

in fact it could be the most important stuff i have seen on all of ou  ;)

i will not repeat the link as if you are sharp enough you will find very deep answers on that link i speak of


it is all there

btw it has little to do with the tpu  ;)

and a lot to do with how things work meaning all things

ist

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2008, 10:38:07 PM »
retracted


« Last Edit: January 10, 2008, 05:12:41 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2008, 07:21:52 PM »
  Grumpy great picture.   See how the Earth manages to exist in the face of a great adversity.  It has often been said that Earth is the water planet,  bullshit it is an iron planet.  Without the magnetic permeability of the Earth's core there would be no earth, and there surer than shit would be no water round here.  As it is Earth is loosing it's hydrogen as I type.  Look at little old mercury. way closer to the sun than Earth, should have been a part of the Sun millenia ago but she has iron fortification. It takes the  the magnetic properties of an iron cored planet allows it to convert enormous amounts of electro-magnetic wave energy into spin and orbit of itself.  Look at Mars.  It once had Oceans.  It lost the Oceans just like Earth did at the poles.  Right know Earth is loosing hydrogen ions at the poles in a plasmic unending flow of Energy/mass. Earth is a little bigger than Mars so it is taking longer but someday Earth will be a big old desert. :'(  She'll keep on spinning and orbiting, just no water no atmosphere;  unless an ancient comet  sets down and fills her back up.  Maybe the comet will blow a little iron into space and there will be two moons.  The magnetoshield ( I'll call it) isn't perfect.  It is working on the big waves.  So it lets the minor stuff in.  Like light.  Damn good thing too.  Look at what lifeform has been here the longest, most diverse, and I find the most beautiful.  The plants.  Now if there is an energy wave from the Sun that is around, (that we are trying to tap into), I would think that the life force would have exploited it by now.  Maybe it has and there is a whole construct of being on Earth that assembles itself by capturing infrared on down.  If there is they must be getting really pissed off at mankind's activites.  Neuclear bombs and all sorts of rf transmissions. Probably took off for Mar's along time ago. ???

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2008, 05:50:04 PM »
     
          I think a significant amount of collectible energy on Earth that is always around lies in the infrared spectrum.  The sun continuously supplying sunlight and the Earth's surface converting it into infrared.  Just a thought about SM's special frequency of conversion.

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2008, 07:05:21 PM »
By the way here is an interesting book by Donald E. Scott, The Electric Sky, available on Amazon, 248 pages.
A Challenge to the Myths of Modern Astronomy. It is a real eye opener when it comes to how the Universe really works.
Really shoots a lot holes through current thinking of how things work. 

More from author Donald Scott:

http://members.cox.net/dascott3/index.htm
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/Rejoinder.htm



Yes Sir, It is! We who know electricity are light yeaps ahead of the astronomers. I would be embarassed to be an astronomer at this time.

--giantkiller.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2008, 08:01:18 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2008, 09:04:32 PM »

sparks

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2008, 07:14:20 PM »
    @Acer

   What kind of imaging is that.  Magnetic Resonance   ::)

  @gk and acer

     Thanks
« Last Edit: January 16, 2008, 06:24:36 PM by sparks »

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2008, 06:08:39 PM »
With all sincerity I believe this subject is very complex and if you specialize in magnetics or currents or electricity or harmonics that will only give you a piece of the puzzle. The drawings left for anyone who wants to "duplicate" their technology was made with thee most basic forms of communication, pictures. I say thee most basic because facial expressions, music, or hand gestures are not possible anymore.
Ed, I feel had a gift - now wheather we can bottle up this gift and expand on it like the pharos did, is not in the foreseeable future. Why? Because there is more going on here than just, "hey lets figure out how he did it and then we can improve on it." It has more to do with people, society as a whole. Dedication to harmonize society with nature. Nature (meaning everything) can teach us more about what is important and show us the most powerful forces, but we chose to quantify it in a way that science with either approve or disapprove of. Instead of actually looking at what it is telling us. I agree with the comments being made about simpler is better. Ancient technology that has been discovered cannot touch the complexity of todays inovations. But it doesn't need to, ancient technology surpasses anything we have today and everything was made by hand and everything was natural. From medicine to technology the ancient civilizations learned how to harnest natures' power.  Most westerners will look at tai chi and dismiss it, but think about how old that civilization is and how can society as a whole believe that movements of the body and tongue placement will help harmonize your body, essentially your soul, to heal it to a certain degree.
The egyptians created (or it was given to them) there entire society on their technology, but they were not the only ones who understood this power, other parts of the world had this knowledge -  stonehenge, himalayas, americas, someone's back yard in florida. Tesla said he could even control the weather after being able to make enough wardenclyffe towers, something i believe. John Keeley work with harmonics provides more size to scale energy than anything available today.
Growing up I had this incredible feeling that everything in the world today was fundamentaly wrong, going to school i felt my science orientated classes gave the wrong information. Only under my own studies have I found that the only way you can learn anything is by accepting what is given to you and going from there and not trying to decipher something that is as plain as nature itself.

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2008, 08:47:04 PM »
   It's astounding that the Earth exists at all when you consider the constant barrage of solar power it exists in.  (see below).  I believe that the magnetosphere and an electrical vortex current that propogates it allow for the planet to be. The magnetosphere converts the solar wind to a geovortex  current which sustains the magnetosphere and couples with the Earth's core and creates planetary spin.  This spin allows for collected thermal energy on the dayside to be radiated on the nightside. It also encapsulates the ionosphere which again absorbs and radiates solar power.  Perphaps by study of this mechanism a better understanding of SM's tpu overunity phenomenon can be achieved.

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Re: Sun-Earth Potential
« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2008, 09:47:50 PM »
@Hans
Regarding your post on the acoustic turbine, I think most any chamber with a hole in one end when set up with a resonant vibration will produce a unidirectional impulse. It has more to do with the opening than anything else, here is a link to a neat steam boat using this principal---- http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass/pop-pop/aapt/crane.htm

The basic premise is that a suction force through an opening pulls from all directions including from the sides while a pressure force will only push away from the opening, the difference in forces because of  the inward pull from the sides amounts to a propulsive force in one direction, pulse jet engines use this technique as well. Victor Schauberger knew this fact very well, he also knew that a suction force is self organizing with very few turbulence losses. I have verified this fact when building an evaporation cooler, I could achieve a 60% increase in flow rate by pulling a suction force through my exchanger versus pushing it through.