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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 1470272 times)

hartiberlin

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #270 on: October 27, 2007, 04:11:41 AM »
The video & sound are working 
Thank you

I can not see it yet myself,
but I uploaded the original AVI now also over here:

http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=ANCKUSAZ

There you first have to paste in this 3 Number code into the form,
then wait a few seconds and then the download link will apear.

Hope this works out now for most of you.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #271 on: October 27, 2007, 04:18:10 AM »
@Stefan,

Can't watch the video at you tube as of 27/10/2007 3.17 a.m.

???

Downloaded from megaupload - thanks

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #272 on: October 27, 2007, 04:18:16 AM »
@Stefan
Touch the wire that goes to the mesh,  to the  ferrite core .
« Last Edit: October 27, 2007, 05:51:26 AM by IronHead »

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #273 on: October 27, 2007, 04:25:02 AM »
Here is my first n00b attempt in replication. Yes, I know I've done some things wrong but I was just too anxious to get some results... :)

I had to quickly build a signal generator so the cyan rectangle is the MAX038 driven ~10MHz sine signal generator (pathetic one as well used the spec. sheet circuit so it's pretty noisy as well)

Yellow rectangle is the Fig.01 circuit from doc. stiffler's webpage. My L1 is I hope around 2uH (grey cylinder thingy lower right corner of yellow rectangle). Since I do not have a precise LCR meter (Masterch DMM I have is pretty lousy and won't measure that low) I just picked something close enough, I'm sure if I had the right 2.2uH the LED would light up brighter.

My AM core is around 700uH taken from an old alarm clock with radio. I think you can use any kind of an old alarm clock with radio and butcher it up for the core, as long as the physical dimensions match.

Now, at first I did not have anything underneath (aluminium plate) but I noticed that it seems to be an integral part (most important?) of the circuit because after putting a small piece underneath and aligning it a bit, the LED lit up brighter. :o

Next step will be to put this on a real breadboard (I was lazy to do it originally since I already started the circuit on this tiny one). But hey, it works for what's it worth - just proves that you can make a terrible hack and still get something out of it. Thanks to doc. stiffler for making us use our heads... :D

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #274 on: October 27, 2007, 04:34:30 AM »
@Stefan,

Can't watch the video at you tube as of 27/10/2007 3.17 a.m.

???

Downloaded from megaupload - thanks

Hmm,
I myselfcan also not watch it yet over here in
Germany via the Versatel Internet provider,
where I have my DSL line...
Hmmm...

Seems Google Video might have different
server throughout the world and it has not gone
through all of them.

Ironhead, when I touched a few cables at different places, the light got weaker...

Instead of the metal mesh I justcan also run it versus my grounded scope.
The signal generator is not grounded. It is floating !
It has no ground connection.

I measured the voltage directly at the LEDs and it is
almost a sine wave with plus 5 Volt and about minus 3 Volts peaks
at the resonance frequency.
So although I put in a 0 to 12 Volts square wave via single wire from
the signal generator, I get almost pure AC
at the LEDs.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #275 on: October 27, 2007, 04:48:35 AM »
Okay, now also at my place the Google video is showing,

One more information about it.

The scope in the video was always connected directly across the
signal generator output, so you always see just this output there.

Of course I had connected also the scope ground to the
signal generator ground.

So you see the damping of the output wavefrom from this
choke and LED load going into the stainless steel mesh via this one
wire setup.

I had the camera on a tripod, so it would be not so shaky,
but sometimes it was then hard to film the right parts of the table,
when I wanted to film the whole scene.

Will get better next time.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #276 on: October 27, 2007, 04:53:16 AM »
@amigo

well done.

Try to put a ground cable or a big alufoil
or metal mesh against one pin of the LED
( does not matter which one)
then the LED will be much brighter at the right
resonance frequency.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #277 on: October 27, 2007, 05:01:41 AM »
@stefan

Thanks !

That's what I first tried, and it made it brighter, but I noticed I do not get any change now that I have the Al foil underneath it...

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #278 on: October 27, 2007, 05:28:44 AM »
I have problems measuring with my grounded scope now the current coming from
the signal generator at a shunt.

Have to isolate the scope from the ground first and then try again.

Stay tuned for this.

@amigo,
when is your LED the brightest ?
With the alufoil below your experimentation board ?

Or with the alufoil just connected to one LED pin ?

Can you try to measure how much current flows from your
driver circuit via the one wire to your ferrite transformer  ?

So the main problem is with these circuits,
how do you design a very low power very fast rising square wave
or pulse generator ?

Would be interesting to see, if shorter positive pulses will
still give the same brightness if you change the duty cycle.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #279 on: October 27, 2007, 05:30:33 AM »
I have made a video, especially for that paranoid delusional freak who's name I won't mention and his followers, but everyone is welcome to watch it...it's educational !

Video Link Here

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #280 on: October 27, 2007, 05:36:50 AM »
Hihi,
that was a good one with the Geiger counter ! ;) ;D

What frequency are you running it amigo ?
Do you have to tune it for the right frequency, so the LED
lights up this bright ?

Many thanks for this video.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #281 on: October 27, 2007, 05:51:43 AM »
Hihi,
that was a good one with the Geiger counter ! ;) ;D

What frequency are you running it amigo ?
Do you have to tune it for the right frequency, so the LED
lights up this bright ?

Many thanks for this video.

Regards, Stefan.

:D

I get 11.21MHz on my Fluke 124 scope, but the frequency is all over the place because the signal generator is not filtered of noise. I did have to tune it so the LED lights up most bright, it's pretty fineky at best.

I tried measuring current but am not sure if my equipment is sensitive enough. Fluke scope shows 0.4mV across the 1ohm resistor, as described by doc.stiffler in Fig.09, but I do not know if that's real or not.

Also, I do not have the high voltage effect present on the other end of the coil. Not sure if I wired it in a wrong way (geesh how many ways are there) but the neon bulb does not light. If I touch the end the LED goes out...

I'll keep at it, thanks for the encouragement :)

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #282 on: October 27, 2007, 06:00:09 AM »
Just wanted to add, frequency seems to change a bit, depending on which end of the coil I use and also if I reverse the L2 and L3...still no HV on the free end.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #283 on: October 27, 2007, 06:28:54 AM »
@amigo
what is your voltage peak to peak output at your oscillator circuit
before going into the coils ?

I also wonder how Dr. Stiffler gets so high high voltage outputs
at his ends of the unconnected coil wires..?

He must  have a very high Q of his resonant circuit.
Maybe he really has very good cores and his Q is very high.

P.S: I tried it with a 220 to 15 Volts transformer made from
normal iron and this also works , if you ground
one side of the output LED.
I used the 12 Volts winding as the one wire choke.

Then it also works with lower frequencies at around 1 Mhz.

But the light output with the ferrite choke is still higher
at its resonance frequency.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #284 on: October 27, 2007, 06:34:09 AM »
"I have made a video, especially for that paranoid delusional freak who's name I won't mention and his followers, but everyone is welcome to watch it...it's educational !"

@ amego

Dearest amego,

Delusional paranoid freak here, I noticed that your frequency generator chip only goes to 10mhz, not 21mhz. I also noticed 4 wires going to the board, not 1 wire. So you have not activated the core and that should be evident by the fact that you admit it.

Maybe if you activate the iron at 21MHZ you could do better than barely lighting 1 LED? Hardly a replication of a circuit that has not been verified by anyone including you.

Also, when Stiffler was logging in as other users and pretending to be someone else, he sort of blew his credibility forever with anyone that has some. How do I know that you are not just one of Stifflers minions or Stiffler himself? If Stiffler is even his real name... That we shall know soon enough, it is under investigation.

Is that one of those home made counters that you make from a phase locked loop? Impressive. Hit the core with 21MHZ like Stifler claims and shows with his scope shot and at a high enough power level and it just might detect something, if it works.

Until then you have not replicated anything and only proved that you have poor reading comprehension skills.

Believe me, I really wish I was wrong, I want to be wrong. But here is a reality check:

Stifler claimed few will show you a working cold electricity circuit.
Stiffler claimed it was over unity.
Stiffler claimed barium core necessary.
Stiffler claimed 90 degree opposed winding key.
Stiffler claimed this and that and every claim Stiffler has made, Stiffler has retracted.

Congratulations, so far that you proved a coil can induct with one wire if the frequency is high enough. Sorry to bust your bubble but that has been known for nearly 100 years.

Nice false attack but you only exposed yourself more.

Nice try.