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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 1470556 times)

PaulLowrance

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2805 on: November 28, 2009, 04:31:22 PM »
im going to say you both are correct

here is why ...  you have 2 hands..

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 IST is probably correct. Broli is probably talking about the *average* power, and I was talking about the spike / pulse. The present data seems obvious that the ultracap capacitance has significantly increased with temperature. That's not to say temperature is the cause or full cause.
 
 So, the measurements so far have shown that if the average current is high, then the ultracap capacitance increases a lot, which is not a good thing because the capacitance increases. We want low capacitance for charging, and high capacitance for discharging.
 
 Also, so far the ultracap capacitance has increased when the *pulse* current is high.
 
 That may seem contradictory, but it's not. It suggests the pulse current should be high, but such pulses should be far apart from each other so as to keep the ultracap temperature down. That's what I see in the data so far.
 
 Last night I did tons more measurements, but this time on discharging the ultracap. OMG, all I should say is these are strange capacitors! The data provides such outrageous numbers that I'm going to refrain from posting the data until I can make some sense of it.
 
 Regards,
 Paul
 

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2806 on: November 28, 2009, 05:01:26 PM »
 OMG Indeed they are  ;)

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2807 on: November 28, 2009, 05:08:17 PM »
Hi Stefan,

I posted my data in this thread because of Dr. Stifflers supercap measurements, but I don't want to disturb his thread. Where's a good place to post my ultracap measurements? It should be in a > cop 1 area of the forum since that's the entire reason for testing them.

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Paul

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2808 on: November 28, 2009, 05:28:06 PM »
Hi Paul,
please post it in the supercap board as a new
topic:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?board=14.0

Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2809 on: November 30, 2009, 06:47:31 PM »

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2810 on: December 01, 2009, 04:23:45 PM »
i finally got my 18-1 working in a 'vicious circle' similar to the video the doc showed awhile back.

i have some of my towers making hho as per the docs even earlier videos and using that flame and thermocouples, i have the necessary juice to provide the 'tickle' as the doc called it to get the whole thing going without the need for a freq. generator. it just needs to be bootstrapped with a lighter...

anyone else other than the good doc working along these lines?

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2811 on: December 01, 2009, 07:00:28 PM »
WilbyInebriated, you seem serious about this researech, that's really good!

Have you pledged any $ for Stefans prize pot, many moons ago I did, $500, OU research is great isn't it  :D

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2812 on: December 01, 2009, 11:31:58 PM »
i finally got my 18-1 working in a 'vicious circle' similar to the video the doc showed awhile back.

i have some of my towers making hho as per the docs even earlier videos and using that flame and thermocouples, i have the necessary juice to provide the 'tickle' as the doc called it to get the whole thing going without the need for a freq. generator. it just needs to be bootstrapped with a lighter...

anyone else other than the good doc working along these lines?

When you get some time you need to make a video of it.

It sounds interesting I'd like to see what your talking about.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 03:17:03 AM by slayer007 »

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2813 on: December 02, 2009, 02:53:11 AM »
When you get some time you need to make a video of it.

It sounds interesting I'd see what your talking about.
sorry, i don't make videos, and from the looks of things it is quite possible i won't be posting at this site in the future.

it's simple really, it's just a combination of stiffler's can water be burned video and his video where he tickles the sec tower coil with the 1V input from his freq. gen. and gets that vicious circle going. all i have done is connect the dots and combine the two. instead of using a freq. genny i use the juice from the thermocouple(s) to power a discrete circuit that replaces the freq. generator's 'tickle'. holding a lighter under the thermocouple(s) bootstraps the whole process and when enough hho is created, it is self running. voilà

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2814 on: December 02, 2009, 03:42:13 AM »
  Could it be that the ionization energy of hydrogen is less than the oxidation potentials.  Like it may be easier to resonate the shit apart than pull it apart.  Certain forms of matter absorb different frequencies.  The intensity of the photon energy is of no concern it is the frigging frequency.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2815 on: December 02, 2009, 04:34:49 AM »
sorry, i don't make videos, and from the looks of things it is quite possible i won't be posting at this site in the future.

it's simple really, it's just a combination of stiffler's can water be burned video and his video where he tickles the sec tower coil with the 1V input from his freq. gen. and gets that vicious circle going. all i have done is connect the dots and combine the two. instead of using a freq. genny i use the juice from the thermocouple(s) to power a discrete circuit that replaces the freq. generator's 'tickle'. holding a lighter under the thermocouple(s) bootstraps the whole process and when enough hho is created, it is self running. voilà

Could you snap a picture of the setup?  I would think if you got something like this running, you would be aching to show people..I know I would.  Do you have any readings on the output of your thermocouple?  Also what type of electrodes are you using?

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2816 on: December 02, 2009, 11:45:51 AM »
Could you snap a picture of the setup?  I would think if you got something like this running, you would be aching to show people..I know I would.  Do you have any readings on the output of your thermocouple?  Also what type of electrodes are you using?
Indeed, if wilby has managed to close the loop, so to speak, I would love to see a detailed circuit schematic along with materials and construction details, rather than just a brief description of what he's done.

A succesfull replication based on his work would validate his claims and at the same time help to break the nexus between conservative science and self interested business conglomerates.

How about it wilby. Can and will you share more information on your successful experiment ??

Cheers

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2817 on: December 02, 2009, 12:29:40 PM »
Could you snap a picture of the setup?  I would think if you got something like this running, you would be aching to show people..I know I would.  Do you have any readings on the output of your thermocouple?  Also what type of electrodes are you using?
i'm not interested in the inevitable maelstrom of assumption, speculaton and criticism that will ensue if i do that. nope, no aches... ;) stiffler already showed how to do it. it was him saying "i wish someone would send me a stirling engine" that got me going on it. thanks to the talking heads that video is gone now... 120V @ 10 mA and 2V @ .5A (approx.) is the output on the TEG. carbon electrodes.

Indeed, if wilby has managed to close the loop, so to speak, I would love to see a detailed circuit schematic along with materials and construction details, rather than just a brief description of what he's done.

A succesfull replication based on his work would validate his claims and at the same time help to break the nexus between conservative science and self interested business conglomerates.

How about it wilby. Can and will you share more information on your successful experiment ??

Cheers
i didn't do anything special, stiffler showed all of this before. i just came up with a way to provide the tickle other than using a freq. generator, and the way i did it is not the only way... think about it. you can find the circuits on stifflers site and other places.

i'm not interested in having anyone replicating exactly what i have done, and it's not really my work, it's stiffler's, i just connected the dots. it's not a claim, and third party validation doesn't interest me, i've seen how that ends up... ::) nor does breaking any nexus.

stiffler has provided all the information you need.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 01:04:21 PM by WilbyInebriated »

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2818 on: December 02, 2009, 03:28:16 PM »
@WilbyInebriated

That is probably the right decision. I'm sure you realize that every one wants someone else to do all the work and post the finished product so all can have. In some cases that makes sense, yet in others it is a waste of time except for the "Coverts". I would say that out of a few hundred people that have duplicated my systems, maybe five or ok 10 have done it right, always wanting to know if this or that part will work in place of what you spec. Why draw a nice diagram and search out suppliers and part numbers, show videos and make details charts and tables, yeah believe me that is the way of the good guy, right.

The one thing I really find about what yu stated is the efficiency of the TC, man you have a good one. I worked with some new solar cell designs that were over 30% eff., but still had problems keeping things running. Of course the pudits are ready to ask if not already, well big deal it self runs, does it have anything left to be useful, interesting also how the bar is always raised higher and higher so no one get credit for any advance, share with the masses, the new world order.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2819 on: December 02, 2009, 05:58:25 PM »
Dr. Stiffler:

Very well said sir.  I agree with you, and Wilby, 100%.

Thank you for shipping out my SEC-18-1 board to me so promptly.  I have not had much time to experiment, but I soon will and I am looking forward to working with it.

Thank you,

Bill