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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 1213252 times)

Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2745 on: November 21, 2009, 06:05:45 PM »
Hi Paul .Its very possible he is seeing gain . I have demonstrated over the unity of a primary source in the Jule thief thread . from an aa battery 2500mah i have charger an ultracapacitor to full capacity with only a few microvolts of loss from the battery 1.4 volt battery . I have stored 3500 AMPS that burn wire and produce HEAT while producing light at the same time . this Amperage is not cold electricity . The worlds first aa battery nichrome heater / light schematic is on page  997 thru 1002 and there is an ongoing experiment . this is easily replicated and you can build one it about 5 minutes

Hi gadgetmall,

Slayer007 claim seems very clear. Both of his rechargeable 9V NiMH 250mAH batteries is just over 8V, which means they are considered dead, very low amount of energy left. His 80 AH car battery started at 12V, and ended at over 12.35V. Such a 12V battery at 12V is only ~ 16% charged. The 12V car battery at 12.35V is ~ 62% charged. That's a difference of 46%, which for a 80AH battery comes to 80 amps * 3600 seconds * 0.46 = 132480 joules. Even if both of his 250mAH batteries were fully charged, they would have 2 * 0.25 amps * 3600 = 1800 joules, but his batteries were dead and no where near 1800 joules.

So IMO slayer007 either gave wrong information, or it's the smoking gun.

Regarding your experiment, wow that sounds very interesting. A 2500mAH battery fully charged a "ultracapacitor" without much loss from the 2500mAH battery? I'll take a look through your posts to find the details, or if you already have a link then that's greatly appreciated!

Paul

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2746 on: November 21, 2009, 06:23:47 PM »
Hi gadgetmall,

Slayer007 claim seems very clear. Both of his rechargeable 9V NiMH 250mAH batteries is just over 8V, which means they are considered dead, very low amount of energy left. His 80 AH car battery started at 12V, and ended at over 12.35V. Such a 12V battery at 12V is only ~ 16% charged. The 12V car battery at 12.35V is ~ 62% charged. That's a difference of 46%, which for a 80AH battery comes to 80 amps * 3600 seconds * 0.46 = 132480 joules. Even if both of his 250mAH batteries were fully charged, they would have 2 * 0.25 amps * 3600 = 1800 joules, but his batteries were dead and no where near 1800 joules.

So IMO slayer007 either gave wrong information, or it's the smoking gun.

Regarding your experiment, wow that sounds very interesting. A 2500mAH battery fully charged a "ultracapacitor" without much loss from the 2500mAH battery? I'll take a look through your posts to find the details, or if you already have a link then that's greatly appreciated!

Paul
I posted an updated Schematic Showing some how to connect n ampmeter without interrupting the circuit here http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.new#new

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2747 on: November 21, 2009, 06:32:57 PM »
Gadget, great, we can talk about your experiment in that thread. I just posted there.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2747 on: November 21, 2009, 06:32:57 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2748 on: November 21, 2009, 08:19:39 PM »
Slayer007 has replied to my PM, and says he'll draw the car battery charging circuit in its entirety tonight. Looking forward to it, as I've already spent over 4 hours trying to figure out the details!  :)

Paul

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2749 on: November 22, 2009, 03:24:25 AM »
Slayer007 has replied to my PM, and says he'll draw the car battery charging circuit in its entirety tonight. Looking forward to it, as I've already spent over 4 hours trying to figure out the details!  :)

Paul

Here is the circuit I was using in the video.

I'm using two Sec's on the same board with the L2 coils wound around each other.
The second one would be added to the Big cap like the first in the circuit.

You can try it with just one and you should see similar results.

The L1 coil is the one with the ferrite rod for tunning the sec.(20 turns 22ga.)
L2 is 22turns 22 ga. around a 1/2 inch pipe then taken off and bunched togeather and taped.
The transistor is a MPSA06.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2749 on: November 22, 2009, 03:24:25 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2750 on: November 22, 2009, 03:08:28 PM »
Thanks for the drawing slayer007! If you don't mind I rotated your drawing & made it sharper. Since I'll first build your circuit in Spice, I may as well post that circuit drawing in my next post.

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2751 on: November 22, 2009, 03:27:40 PM »
Here's the circuit. Please let me know if there's an error! There might be an error with C2 since that part is a bit iffy in your drawing.

Thanks very much!
Paul
« Last Edit: November 22, 2009, 04:24:03 PM by PaulLowrance »

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2752 on: November 22, 2009, 03:51:59 PM »
Looks like a nice simple setup.  Very impressive!

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2753 on: November 22, 2009, 04:11:12 PM »
Here's the circuit. Please let me know if there's an error! There might be an error with C2 since that part is a bit iffy in your drawing.

Thanks very much!
Paul

D3 is a 1N5399 diode.

Sorry I forgot to label it in the circuit.

It can be substituted for a differant a value but not a 1N4148

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2754 on: November 22, 2009, 04:12:30 PM »
@Paul
Quote:
"Here's the circuit. Please let me know if there's an error! There might be an error with C2 since that part is a bit iffy in your drawing."

Yes there is an error on the emitter of Q1 to C2, here is the corrected diagram.

Maybe I am missing something but there would seem to be a path of lesser resistance through V1(+)-L4-L2-D1-L3-V1(-), in fact it could be considered a short circuit.

« Last Edit: November 22, 2009, 04:44:40 PM by allcanadian »

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2755 on: November 22, 2009, 04:19:59 PM »
No problem! I changed it. I don't know how the forum is here, so you might have to refresh your browser cache.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2755 on: November 22, 2009, 04:19:59 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2756 on: November 22, 2009, 04:26:07 PM »
@Paul
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"Here's the circuit. Please let me know if there's an error! There might be an error with C2 since that part is a bit iffy in your drawing."

Yes there is an error on the emitter of Q1 to C2, here is the corrected diagram.

Thanks, nice catch! It's now updated. BTW you forgot to add the blue square to make it a connection.  ;)

Paul

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2757 on: November 22, 2009, 04:37:22 PM »
Hi Folks,

I understand this corrected circuit already covers the circuit Dr Stiffler built and I wonder how the negative pole of the 18V supply voltage gets to the emitter of the Q1 transistor? 
In some of Dr Stiffler's earlier than this SEC versions, the negative polarity line of the supply voltage went directly to the emitter (via a choke coil) with a piece of wire and this seems to be missing here.  I do not mean this is needed here, maybe that is how Dr Stiffler built it indeed, but I find it unusual.

Thanks for any explanation in advance.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2758 on: November 22, 2009, 04:52:10 PM »
Hi Folks,

I understand this corrected circuit already covers the circuit Dr Stiffler built and I wonder how the negative pole of the 18V supply voltage gets to the emitter of the Q1 transistor? 
In some of Dr Stiffler's earlier than this SEC versions, the negative polarity line of the supply voltage went directly to the emitter (via a choke coil) with a piece of wire and this seems to be missing here.  I do not mean this is needed here, maybe that is how Dr Stiffler built it indeed, but I find it unusual.

Thanks for any explanation in advance.

rgds, Gyula


It's still there it's just going through the big cap first.
This way the cap will charge just from the Sec running.

And the AV plugs help to top it off.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #2759 on: November 23, 2009, 02:36:05 PM »
Sorry there was an error in the C2 cap polarity.

Also C2 was moved to the other side of the filter.

Transistor= MPSA06
F1= Ferrite beads 65 ohm @ 100 MHz
C1= .01 cap.
C2= 4400 uf cap.
C3= 470 pf cap.
R1= 1 Meg. resistor
L1= 2-20 uh variable inductor with ferrite rod for tunning.
L2= 22 uh coil
D1= 1N4148 diode
D2= 1N5399 diode

 

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