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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 1279278 times)

Offline fritz

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #150 on: October 21, 2007, 11:35:40 AM »
Besides, most people are so inverted, if it is true, they think it is a lie, black is white, up is down. Most people (Americans) have been so chemically (...)

I think the underlying problem is the existence of black/white, up/down, true/lie
topology itself.
Working together(as European) with my colleagues in San Jose was quite thrilling.
If you agree, they love you, if you dare to raise some critical comment they feel
personal offended.
Don?t know if that is a language or cultural problem. (wrong input or unexpected response)
I prefer the "grey" topology.
For me, a critcal comment means that somebody is interested - no comment or just blind "yes"
- not (really) interested.
What is black / white for if its used by so different, individual people ?

rgds, yes this is off-topic.
 


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Offline Freenrg4me

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #151 on: October 21, 2007, 03:03:55 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #152 on: October 21, 2007, 03:41:01 PM »
For the benefit of those who are actually working to replicate, or to try variations of cores LEDs etc, or to improve on this circuit, it would be better NOT to begin with the old CE5 or earlier incarnations, in my opinion.

The old one does work, but the newer circuit will drive at least 20 LEDs (now way more than that) so why go backwards? It is simple, and copyrighted to Dr.Stiffler so do not post it elsewhere. Please do post your results - positive or negative.

The only way to make huge strides quickly is cooperation and openness. Knowing what doesn't work is almost as helpful as knowing what does. I will not bore you with yet another requote of Edison's famous quip about incandescent lamp filaments.

Jones

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #153 on: October 21, 2007, 03:53:27 PM »
The sling and double-sling effect are discussed on the German site here:
http://www.evert.de/eft708e.htm

There are probably other names for this effect as well, but the reason it is mentioned here now, wrt a completely different subject, is that it suggests a mechanical way that a purely passive blocking system for one form of energy, can boost the total output in another form, so long as net losses are minimized. IOW one can block linear motion to increase circumferential (angular momentum) and so forth. To me it is an apt analogy for an EM systems, but only valuable in either type if the
net gain does not include low grade heat, as is most often the case, and is able to boost ambient energy in someway into the alternate form.

In effect, a dielectric or semiconductor which presents an impediment to electron flow can possibly
boost the net energy available in photons, so long as there is little waste heat, and if ambient energy has been cohered.

All of this came up in response the mention of 'resonant rise' and the observation that the Imris
patent presents a similar 'resonant rise' principle to the Stiffler CE7 circuit.

US Patent # 3,781,601   Canadian Patent # 951836

"Optical Generator of an Electrostatic Field having Longitudinal Oscillations at Light Frequencies for Use in an Electrical Circuit"

Pavel Imris was awarded this expired patent in the 1970s. The patent is most interesting in that it
claims a device having an output power nine times greater, in photons, than the equivalent input power.
The device uses a series of xenon tubes- quartz glass envelope which contains xenon gas under pressure (the higher the pressure, the greater the gain of the device).

The same kind of resonant rise apparently is at work in the CE7.

Each Imris lamp can work to its full specification on less than one-fortieth of its rated input power.
However, these tubes are not nearly as efficient initially, in terms of lumens per watt as the LED; but
even so- the claimed light output power of more than nine times the input power should have made it a
commercial item, despite the exorbitant cost of xenon. Or else the claims are overblown. Does anyone know for sure?

Anyway, from the point of view of any individual lamp, before using this Imris series circuit, it required 40 watts of electrical input power to give 8.8 watts of light output, an efficiency of about 22%. In one test, the input power per lamp was 0.9 watts for the 8.8 watts of light produced, which is a lamp efficiency of more than 900%. Quite an impressive performance for so simple a device, but FAR FAR less so than the Stiffler LED circuit which is now driving an enormous # of LEDs with almost no input.

I is just a matter of time before the light from a future incarnation of Stiffler's circuit is focused to
a solar cell so that the device can 'float,' and remove all possible doubt that ground, or a tiny signal can
be powering the large array of LEDs.

Jones

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #154 on: October 21, 2007, 04:24:57 PM »
@Freenrg4me

I believe the idea here is not to play games or teach "students" new things through puzzles. If those of us with 1/4 of a brain have to figure out how to positively replicate this instead of a straight forward put this here and there, then it leads me to believe good old doc has purposely obscured it.

At this point of time it should be more important to allow everyone to replicate the effects as easy as possible, instead of giving them somewhat incomplete details and hoping they figure it out on their own. A positive replication from dozens of people would stand out as an undeniable proof of validity of claims from the doc. So far I haven't read about anyone yet confirming this to be working...

Oh, and you forgot to add Fluoride as a neurotoxin in water that keeps people docile. It worked for Stalin to keep his prison population at bay, and it surely works on most Americans as well :D

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #155 on: October 21, 2007, 09:16:02 PM »
@Freenrg4me

I believe the idea here is not to play games or teach "students" new things through puzzles. If those of us with 1/4 of a brain have to figure out how to positively replicate this instead of a straight forward put this here and there, then it leads me to believe good old doc has purposely obscured it.

Oh, and you forgot to add Fluoride as a neurotoxin in water that keeps people docile. It worked for Stalin to keep his prison population at bay, and it surely works on most Americans as well :D

The information is really quite complete but the project is evolving, the information is spread out and nobody has cores to replicate with yet. I am working with fritz to get it all in one basket and now see we have another schematic with yet more LEDs. That is cause to celebrate!

You are right, it must be the fluoride in the water. They are also adding aspartame to vaccinations that babies get. I read an interesting article the other day online where the pentagon plans to fall back to a "legitimate government" if people rise up in rebellion. These are different times and people need to wake up if they can. Glad to see you are.


Offline armagdn03

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #156 on: October 22, 2007, 04:03:35 AM »
Okay think about this one logically guys. Why are we all waiting to buy some special cores?

I understand consistency being a large factor in replication attempts, but if the key is the resonance of barium, then size of the core should have nothing to do with it. Any size core would still display the same affects simply because it is barium ferrite, not because of its physical size.

I'm sure you all have a bit of the stuff around,

 if not, demagnetize some magnets in the oven and start playing.

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Offline amigo

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #157 on: October 22, 2007, 05:51:30 AM »
I believe I have the right core, and it did come from the old alarm clock. It looks just like the ones on eBay, yet I am still unable to light even one LED. Perhaps my psi powers are not as strong as doc stifflers? ;)

I am not sure what the trick here is, so I might as well wait till others replicate this so it works then try it again...

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #158 on: October 22, 2007, 07:27:26 AM »
@ amego

I believe I have the right core, and it did come from the old alarm clock. It looks just like the ones on eBay, yet I am still unable to light even one LED. Perhaps my psi powers are not as strong as doc stifflers? ;)

psi powers???

Amego, do I need to verbally rip you in half and wear your lower torso for pants in order to set an example?

Are you working over an aluminum plate? The schematics clearly show the aluminum plate below the circuit. Is your core  680uf? Did you make the proper choke? Etc.

I did try the barium magnet idea withing hours of seeing the first video but had no luck with that. And so we will get some cores and let the science take us where it does. Nobody knows for sure including Stiffler from the sound of it. He was wanting to show us what he had and get some help replicating it and figuring it out and how to make it better. What in the hell is this place for if not for that? Why can't that be done without being insulted by empty idiots?

Be constructive, not destructive. Otherwise, all you do is teach anyone with original ideas to keep it to themselves. That is what I have learned from this. If I discover something and want help in figuring it out, I won't use one of these forums after seeing what happened to Dr. Stiffler.

Have you looked at his CREC stuff? He took down the videos but that was really informative in regards to measuring output. The extra pulse (recycled energy) was about 80% of the input on my scope and that is a cool idea. He also has a circuit to provide a quick reverse pulse to clear the electrodes and that is what was making that pulse of gas in his bucket video - another original idea. Clean electrodes make more gas.

He has original ideas and hangs it all out there. I like that because it takes intelligence and balls. It takes zero intelligence or balls to sit back and make cracks about something you have little or no first hand experience at. I wonder where we would be right now if we all went forward like Stiffler? Posting experiments and results. Way ahead of where we are now, that is for sure.

The reality is, we don't know what Stiffler has discovered and I doubt he fully does either. But what this has taught  us is what we do not want, what we can not tolerate in the search for OU if we are to be successful.

It is one thing to make observations, it is another thing to make insults.

Every time you do that I am going to confront you and I don't care if the cowards that agree with me sit there and say nothing. I am my own man and I am comfortable in my old skin and can deal with the likes of you anytime.

Why do you work against the over unity research amego? You have invested nothing but you wise cracks into this. Are you a counter intelligence agent? Do you have a personality defect or both? Do you have a nice lab like Doc Stiffler packed with equipment? Do you have original ideas? Do you hang it out there? Nope, you just attack those that do. Don't piss me off, unlike Stiffler, I don't have such a good sense of humor.

Now grow up and act like an intelligent adult or go do something else. We are researchers, not character assassins.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Offline armagdn03

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #159 on: October 22, 2007, 02:24:49 PM »
whoa wait a second, I think you are way out of line.

I know you are being upright in protecting what you think is just and fair, and I too applaud DR. Stifler for his efforts,
however I believe amigo was just trying to say that he had no luck.

There is a famous report by the united states gov where they evaluate John Hutchisons work. They see the results first hand, are sure it works, but nobody is able to replicate it, thus they came to the conclusion, and this is documented, that Hutchison himself was the magic ingredient, and they said that he could influence the experiment with his mind.

THUS if you cant get a replication to work, you dont have a strong enough mental influence, JUST A HARMLESS JOKE, NO HARM. Lets put those weapons down, I think we have established that stifler is no fake.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #160 on: October 22, 2007, 07:48:27 PM »
JUST A HARMLESS JOKE, NO HARM. Lets put those weapons down, I think we have established that stifler is no fake.

I think what this has experience taught us is that a "HARMLESS JOKE" DOES CAUSE HARM and serves no purpose but to cause harm. Amego is the same person that was suggesting in a previous post wrote

"I would personally drop the comic relief attempts and focus on the explanation of how to achieve the effect and how to replicate it with precise instructions and good schematics. There's nothing stronger than truth and facts, they will speak for themselves without a need to be a comedian..."

and furthermore, I am not out of line.

I will give you an example, last week I tried a bunch of harmless chemicals and elements to enhance electrolysis production that won't cause the cell to scum up like salt. I found two that work nicely and both of them are ingredients that humans consume and are inexpensive.

Did I post that anywhere? Hell no!

Yesterday I figured out how to make a cell that makes the output production and effecency of EVERYTHING I have seen so far look pathetic and it does that for a tiny fraction of the cost of stainless tubes or plates. Do you see me posting that anywhere? Nope.

Now why do you think that is? The answer is simple. I don't need the hassle from someone that can't follow instructions and replicate a circuit with 5 components and why would I give anything to the worst enemy of over unity research?

amego with his brand new username and 5 posts is most likely a disinfo agent. My sole purpose until they are exposed and chased away is to do just that. You would think Hartmann would have a vested interest in making an example of a few people to accomplish that task.

This forum has been running for close to ten years in various incarnations but has produced nothing but hassle and fear for anyone that has discovered anything interesting or much less OU. They have relegated these forums to being useless and pointless. My only purpose here is to make a whole hearted attempt to replicate something I find of interest from someone else created, I.e., validate that person with a good idea, and or, suppress the detractors, egocentrics and disinformation experts.

If I ever want to share something, I will do it privately and I will share it with someone with a long history of being serious and showing courage in draining the pond of scum.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Offline armagdn03

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #161 on: October 22, 2007, 08:31:33 PM »
Perhaps you are not familiar with eastern philosophy which coincidentally leaks into fundamental western views on morality and life in general.

Should the individual stated be a disinformant, he is welcome. He poses a different point of view and represents the opposition we all need. Without dark how can we know light exists? How hot is hot without reference to cold? Why do we work on decreasing friction in machinery when we need that friction to function? Because we need a balance of everything. We need opinion from all sides.

You my friend are free to pick and choose what you believe, that is the gift we have as humans.

I believe a fundamental error has been committed by many. Knowledge is knowledge and is voluble weather correct or incorrect. Who among you can say you have replicated every device you have learned something from? I have learned a lot from things I have read about, and never actually tried myself. Much of what I know may be incorrect, if I find this out to be true in the future, that piece of knowledge will also be added to my arsenal, and again my base of information will grow.

You serve nobody but yourself in keeping knowledge. You may have made many significant discoveries within the last week, I do not doubt you, unfortunately you have condemned humanity to a rank of incompetence, and decide to keep your info to yourself. Basically you have made judgment upon another for an act not yet committed.

Ever heard of a preemptive strike? (USA?.Middle east?cough cough) this is one of the fundamental fallacies listed in many texts concerning logic and argument.

This is not to say that you are without right at being upset at the many people who ?nay say? much of the research that happens here. I to do not post all I learn, but I do so because I don?t feel I can present it in a irrefutable way yet. (and partly due to the nay sayers, nobody is perfect) You are within your rights.

I would simply like to make a request of the entire community.

Please, limit conversation to productive avenues. If you disagree, awesome, let us know. If you are disagreed with?.you didn?t see it coming? How will you respond? I don?t think I need to spell out proper discussion decorum in a room full of adults.

For the love of a higher deity of your choosing??.RESPECT your fellow man, even if he has disrespected you. You believe yourself superior no? then act in accordance.

We are all guilty of falling out of line yourself included.


Why do you think DR S does not post himself? id take a shot at awnsering, but I think deep down you all already know the awnser, finger off the trigger guys.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #162 on: October 22, 2007, 09:44:29 PM »
Hi
   Try series resonance you get very high voltages across the cap and inductor.
   All the Best

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #163 on: October 22, 2007, 09:47:54 PM »
armagdn03 Whatever... If you value someone who gets paid to cause disruption and drive away real researchers, well...

As far an being free to choose the God of my choice, mine told me "don't throw your pearls to swine."

And so I will be offline for a while because unlike some of you, I actually build things, do research and produce original ideas nearly every day. I spend roughly $300 hundred a week on this for materials and gear and I am beginning to have something to show for it.

But trust me pal, nothing I create that is original will be thrown to the swine that swims here and that is the same reason Stiffler does not, just to clear up your last line...

So feel free to pontificate whether the cat is in the box or some guy melts metal with his mind but I am too busy doing research for your nonsense. BTW - That report on Hutchinson was surely true since that honest US government documented it for you. Make up your mind.

Final thought - If you are going to attempt to use higher order thinking in an attempt to defend what is probably your partner, don't leave out the thinking part. You only expose yourself for who and what you are.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #164 on: October 22, 2007, 10:33:55 PM »
 I wish you the best, and I hope your experimenting goes well! hopefully we will here from you again and you will find it in your heart to share what you have worked so hard for.

Perhaps there are swine among us, I have found negativity around every corner I cross in life, even this one, what one does with that is what defines them.

@All
come on guys, we all know what is right and what is wrong. We know what helps the cause and what is a waste of time. You are not swine. You have taken the time out of your day to attempt to solve a problem that plagues your fellow man.

However you go about this endeavor, be it advice,. expertise, creativity, invention, replication, do so in an honorable manor.

p.s. thanks for clearing up my last line on the previous post, I think that after your kind words it rings loud and clear.

 

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