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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 1088191 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #120 on: October 19, 2007, 05:27:22 PM »
There appears to be a 'wire' of some nature dangling down under the table at the back. Look under the tray, and it is clearly seen to move about and could be connected to his body! Is this the pink bunnies tail I wonder??

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #121 on: October 19, 2007, 05:43:27 PM »
I understand skepticism, but lets not turn away a legitamate find here. I think its time to stop asking Dr. Stiffler to change his setup around so that we are satisfied! He has given us his info and been very kind in
Letting us see the results, He has jumped through hoops for us. Every time we have something that cannot be immediately disproved, its like people make it their mission to scare the inventor away with accusations! We can ask for accuracy sure, but don?t assume deceit!

Personally, Thank you Dr. Stiffler for your results. I have been working on Single wire transmission for a bit, but never really thought of the resonant frequency of the core (molecularly speaking)  to have a large part in the process. I always just strived for minimal induction losses with laminated steel cores, Bravo on finding the barium idea! If only my sig gen didn?t cap out at 5MHz! Grrrrrrr. Looks like another expenditure to put on the books!

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #122 on: October 19, 2007, 07:03:34 PM »
Just a thought, I donno if anybody reads my "tangential" posts anyways but...

What would makes barium ferrite act in this particular manor??? Good thing you asked, ill give you my interpretation of it, which is actually long and drawn out, but I will make it short and sweet.

We have to compounds, barium, and iron chemically bonded. There are magnetic domains, associated with the barium molecules. These domains don't become magnetic until they are given a reason to be.

If we were to wind a coil around this material, the current induced through the wire will create a magnetic field which will orient the magnetic domains in some arbitrary direction. Now if the induced current is oscillated at a frequency near the ressonant frequency of barium, perhaps this creates additional movement within the magnetic domains, causing more delta flux over delta time resulting in increased output. If this is the case I don't think that the core really could distinguish between primary and secondaries wound on it and I would speculate that this thing might actually be trying to feed some energy back into the signal generator as well! It would be interesting to use a rectified signal to feed the barium farrite transformer get it to resonance, and then stick some measuring equipment in between the generator and the core, and find if there are any additional fluctuations heading the "wrong way".

Barium works particularly well for this because it is known to have a frailly high Q when in resonance,

What would happen if we were to run this at 3.231MHz?....the resonant frequency of iron. Or what would happen if we were to feed with a combination of the two frequencies?

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #122 on: October 19, 2007, 07:03:34 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #123 on: October 19, 2007, 07:49:34 PM »
Self-power or earth power?

...or Dr. Stiffler's magnetic personality?

Hey folks - he is being a little cute here, but if it
has not dawned on you yet- this is the most important
video on free energy that any "earthling" has ever witnessed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdJm9QCVJHY


Hmm,
no more signal generator anymore ?

Is there still the radio transmitter nearby
and you draw power from this, or do the
60 Hz induction via the ground wire maybe
excite your ferrite cores at the Mhz resonance ?
Hmm, pretty strange, if it is not just your local radio station via resonance...

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #124 on: October 19, 2007, 07:50:31 PM »
Well, we really need to see scope shots,
otherwise really nothing can be said..

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #124 on: October 19, 2007, 07:50:31 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #125 on: October 19, 2007, 10:15:53 PM »
Hi All,
This experiment is interesting in that it brings up the subject of cold electricity.
So in "cold electricity part 7" he is able to power 8 LEDs from touch alone.
I wonder if he has his other hand on the function generator output and he is standing on something insulated?
I can see some connections between this device and the TPU.
Also its possible that there has been no success on the TPU front because of the missing final conversion process.
I think I have all the parts to make this including the big Proto board, just missing the parasitic beads, I knew that LW/MW coil would come in handy one day - time to dust it off I think.
I would be good to see this on a PCB, see him walk outside into the garden say, then touch it and show the LEDs being lit.
The next question is, can this be scaled up?
Regards
Rob

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #126 on: October 19, 2007, 11:41:01 PM »
@Dr Stiffler

Thank you for sharing your experiments with us. I am awaiting the arrival of my coil/cores and hope to soon replicate your work. I am sure there are others who would love to join in constructively.

I really think that people who are just heckling should start their own thread where they can be smart all day.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #127 on: October 20, 2007, 12:27:29 AM »
Self-power or earth power?

Someone better call an ambulance for Fritz - he looks quite ill and
possibly has choked on something ;-)

hmmm spent my day in an ambulance car.,..
what next?

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #128 on: October 20, 2007, 07:33:20 PM »
In the second schematic that was published, it shows an aluminum plate. Do you suppose the pan is the aluminum plate and the wire that goes under it is connected to a sheet of aluminum and touching the plate?

Some things that are clear:
1. The man is not an idiot or fool.
2. He has a beef with egocentrics, detractors, government disinformation experts and magical thinkers.
3. He is mad as hell that people that have suggested he is a fraud.
4. If he had planned to set up the people he has a beef with, he could not have planned these videos any better to allow them to be who they are so he can crush them in the end. He just keeps removing components.
5. He has an agenda that is more social than technical in nature. The technology is just the medicine that he is using to cure the social problem.

I think you should get some cores and replicate it before you suffer an overdose of your own words.

How many of the people that have claimed he was a fraud have replicated his CREC circuit or even watched it and verified that it was 1.6 OU? I replicated it and it really does work. Using the law of probability and a mind that is capable of recognizing truth, I would be a fool to suggest he is a liar.

Here is what insanity looks like:
A belief is accepting something that is true though you have no experience of it.
A disbelief is rejecting something as true though there is experience to be had.

Here is what sanity looks like:

There are things that I know and things that I do not know. I do not know what I do not know.

If you were Dr. Stiffler and you tried to give the coolest free energy device you ever came across in your career to people searching for free energy and they instead of being thankful, called you a fool and a liar... Now wouldn't that piss you off all the way? It pisses me off all the way watching some of you do it.

Stiffler and I are not so different in our utter disdain for some of the people that claim to research OU. There is a reason that it has not been, is not being, and will not be discovered here, or most other free energy web sites. It is because of the people he described in his user agreement on his web site.

Now he is stuck in the middle. Mainstream science on one side, fringe science on the other. I stand with him until I know, or don't know if it works. In the end, I will know. I ordered 60 cores.

Science, fringe or mainstream, has become worse than anything wacko religion ever created. It is no wonder these sites attract so many people high on Jesus.

Also, to who ever suggested this was not the place to shout down the liars, con men, egocentrics, believers and disbelievers, YOU ARE WRONG! This is the perfect place, the ONLY place, to shout them down.

No wonder people like Stiffler don't help us.

It is O.K. to notice the wire under the pan. It is not O.K. to suggest he is a fraud until you know what the wire does. The wire is most likely connected to nothing in order to allow you to shove your foot in your mouth further, if that is even possible at this point.



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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #128 on: October 20, 2007, 07:33:20 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #129 on: October 20, 2007, 07:53:11 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #130 on: October 20, 2007, 08:59:35 PM »
Dear All,

Some people in this forum know my complete name, my profession
and where I live. Even Wolfgang is my first name and Friedrich (fritz)
is my middle name(nickname).
As long as I make general technical statements here - I see no reason
why everybody should know me !!??
I think Dr. Stiffler is a funny guy, which plays out the #10 funny analog
tricks to the public - this is a quite educational thing.
At least I think its a good training to analyze things - to train our
perception to differentiate between believe, fact and science.

I think the original intention of the circuit was to play around with an
"inverted hysteresis" setup. Having a resonator with nonlinear C(FET)
and nonlinear L (ferrite) envolved.
Such stuff should swing forever if excited once if properly biased.
It should be no problem for such a competent player to operate
such circuit without any wire attached using feedback.

Even if no LED attached - just selfoscillating forever - he could easily
proof this by putting a frequency analyser at his bench. (using tiny
wire to catch oscillation emmitted by this oscillator)

Because of the fact that he uses no proper prototype - and shows
no effort to make the stuff work on its own - I have the feeling that (...)
Its up to you. Funny guy.

rgds,

fritz

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #131 on: October 20, 2007, 09:11:20 PM »
"It is O.K. to notice the wire under the pan. It is not O.K. to suggest he is a fraud until you know what the wire does. The wire is most likely connected to nothing in order to allow you to shove your foot in your mouth further, if that is even possible at this point."

well said ... except please don't dignify that silly 'wire under the pan' comment with another reference. The original poster of that inane observation was obviously too lazy to look at the previous YouTube  video where it is blatantly obvious that this wire is his ground connection. Duh.

And yes - it is true that, so-far, the system does requires a ground as a substitute for the signal and cannot be floated. Is that where the powers coming from? Surely everyone must realize that the goal is to float the system withs its own onboard timing - but this is an ongoing, evolving project. Look how far it has come in the week since the CE4 video was posted.

Doubtful that his ground could be doing this, but before the next skeptic genius chimes in, let me mention "resonant rise" as being a possibility for at least understanding how the voltage gets pumped up- but still ask yourself how can any ground connection provide about .3 v on a regular basis ;-) 

At least the 'joule thief' device (site below) --- IF it does represents the limits of how far you can take resonant-rise, would indicate that you need ~.3 v of potential from somewhere, correct? ... and remember that Dr. S is now up to 20 LEDs on this same circuit.

He would still be posting these updates, and answering intelligent questions, instead of me relaying them, if some of the posters here had a little civility and respect. He wants to understand this as much as you do, and a wide number of replications and inputs is the only way to get anywhere without adding a large staff.

Here is the 'joule thief' URL:
http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/bigclive/joule.htm

Jones

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #132 on: October 20, 2007, 09:45:38 PM »
Dear All,

Ok, some suggestions:

1st:

Make the stuff work on a proper prototype:
Use a tiny copper pcb, solder the stuff in a way you
do it for rf (no cables, no wires, just components as
close as can be. (30 minutes)
Maybe(make the stuff work then) will take longer;-))

2nd:

Replace an LED by a tiny DC/DC converter which powers
a tiny RC pulse oscillator in HCMOS which operates the circuit.
(Still use external power to startup, then disconnect) (2hrs)

3rd:

Operate the stuff outside, start up with battery and move
around to proof that no radiation around. (avoid visble tranformer
houses and powerplants on the video).
You can even hold the stuff == ground it - no problem with that (2hrs)

(...)
If I discover something, I track it down to the rootcause.
Adding more LEDs is interesting - but not the way to prove the setup.
If magical things happen on my breadboard - I verify that - and dont
mystify it.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #133 on: October 20, 2007, 10:09:01 PM »
@ jonesbeene

Interesting link to the joule thief. That is something I can build today - Thanks.

To develop this friendly discussion further regarding the last CE7 video, it is worth noticing that the pan is propped up on a piece of insulating plastic. The wire is long enough to go AROUND the pan but it does not.

As long as everyone is speculating, (including me) I wonder if the wire is not connected to a piece of foil that is touching the pan and he didn't want to give that away yet. The circuit shows an aluminum plate.

I speculate  in the end, you will see that the circuit DOES float and run on it's own. Everything I have seen thus far suggests that.

I for one am very excited about this and think it is the best thing I have seen in years. A person would have to be cynical to a psycho level to think that Mr. Stiffler would go on you tube, identify himself and then play some kind of hoax on people. It is clear he is intelligent and credible.

Maybe this should be the speculation rule:
If you don't have at least 5 of those cores on order, you should not be speculating on this and if you do have them ordered, you should give Dr. Stiffler the respect and kindness we all deserve.


There is no crime in being stupid. All of us are at times in our life, including Dr. S. but exhibiting belligerence and ignorance at the same time will always be perceived as an injustice to the receiver because it is just that.

No offense to fritz or anyone else, we all know things that even Dr. Stiffler does not know. I for one can pack a parachute with blind folded or loop an airplane with a glass of water in one hand without spilling any. I'll bet Ron Stiffler can't do that! :-) But then he would be smart enough not to try... :-)

The important thing is that we share what we know and when we are wrong, we are gentle with our fellow man when it is deserved. I hope that Dr. Stiffler will be gentle with us as well, we are a "group" of individuals.

I am going to order ten more cores and get them shipped overnight air. Another week is too long to wait to start figuring this out.

Also I talked to the seller of the cores and they do come from China and they sell other shapes and sizes. Let's get this replicated and then improve it possibly with a more efficient toroid and work constructively together while we do.

Wouldn't it be something if we took this idea and replaced the crank generator in the One laptop per child laptop? The generator is the most expensive parts. If we work together on this we can do that. I live in a world of possibilities, not impossibilities.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #134 on: October 20, 2007, 10:16:46 PM »
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