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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 1088101 times)

Offline Perraultium

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #105 on: October 17, 2007, 09:06:50 PM »
@ BEP

Not looking to start a flame war here but maybe this will refresh your confused memory:


As far as posting very little experimental detail - why should I bother repeating something I did 20+ years ago? If you don't believe something said then either ignore it or prove/disprove it to yourself.

the B and the P in BEP stands for something you wouldn't understand and most likley wouldn't believe. As in callsigns - BEP was a substation of a network. The B stood for Berlin............

And in both instances you suggest that I replicate the OU circuit you won't post. Kind of a catch 22 don't you think?

Oh, and you do go my multiple identities to congratulate and promote yourself and we have watched you do that for years

My comment stands and you stand corrected.

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Offline BEP

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #106 on: October 17, 2007, 10:30:08 PM »
This really becoming a bore.

I still don't see the word 'from' in front of the word 'Berlin'.

You are insulting someone I don't know thinking he is me.

You say I've suggested you replicate something when I all I've done is try to provide advice (granted I was too loud and free with theories and past experiences in the beginning).

What OU circuit, that I won't post, are you talking about? I've said many times I haven't succeeded in creating OU. Since I allowed my thoughts about this stuff to go public, JUNE THIS YEAR, I haven't succeeded in anything that hasn't already been posted by folks here.

The recent one that I related to this failed after 4 days when I closed the loop (WITH 2 AAA BATTERIES). That is just about as long as the batteries should last. Why should I post scope shots on that?

This is only the second username I have used. The only way that can be confirmed is for Stefan to starting looking at server logs. I'm not going to bother the man about that.

Enough. I have better things to do. What's up? You didn't like my opinion of what a magnetic field was?

Offline armagdn03

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #107 on: October 17, 2007, 11:13:17 PM »
I think we can all agree this is neither the place nor the time. Respectfully stop please. No hard feelings either way towards anybody.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Offline bolt

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #108 on: October 18, 2007, 05:15:21 AM »
All of these circuits have several themes in common. Incidentally i highly suspect that ANY ferrite or even a coil wound around a paper tube will work given enough turns its just a simple transformer and there is no need to go looking for special cores.

For example the bedini circuits use coils and blocking diodes to minimize current drain on the primary but rely on the wheel rotation to produce the coil spikes. Well instead of that this circuit runs the output coil into RF resonance and works very similar to how i suspect the tpu works. Certainly the frequencies used in the couple of megs range are precisely where i would expect these effects to happen given the size of the coils and caps used which is why i suggested several times those banging with audio range pulses may not get anywhere when stable RF is required in the low megs range. In addition the use of open ended coils has been demonstrated many many times and patent in some cases Tesla of course and other like the Russian single wire longitudinal transmission system which has an open collector coil and the German scalar wave demo which also a simple PCB 200:1 transformer running to open collector Xmas tree ball antenna :) 
The latter for those that seen that video use 4.2 meg RF carrier and i think 7 megs to produce the scalar and the received energy has been calculated and replicated to be a least 180% and in some cases reportedly 1000%. Now in each case the skeptics argue that the input power is not measured properly to cover the suggested output power and John Bedini followers know this problem all too well despite the fact it been shown several times that an RF generator fed into a wave guide of at least 3 nodes will produce longitudinal scalar waves and the output voltage AND current is higher at the output even when fed into a carbon resistor and temp calculated.  Now the problem with all these circuits is there is no feedback and the excess power tends to be very low.  There will always be loses but non of the useful gain is fed back to the input. There is no such thing as a lossless circuit his control circuit and coils may need 50 or 100 Milli amp to run all the time. Only the tpu can be seen to have true feedback because once you work out how to do this the device is then free running and the arguments then change from "he is not measuring the input correctly" to "must have a dozen pp3 batteries inside".

Likewise its no accident that Meyers water split almost certainly used a Bedini open collector type circuit floating output coil connected to resonant tubes through wave guide longitudinal chokes setup as nodes. When you do this and everything rings just right the power on the tubes will appear MUCH more then an equivalent DC circuit. Its unlikely he ever made a self powered tpu but very likely he achieved gains of over 500% compared to DC.

So these circuits are real they do exist but for most of the they don't concern anyone too much as they have little real practical use other then lab tests and if they threaten to leave the lab then MIB pop round.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #109 on: October 18, 2007, 04:32:46 PM »

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Offline armagdn03

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #110 on: October 18, 2007, 05:00:45 PM »
Very good post, everything you mentioned does have all of that in common. But lets not say they have no practical use??..I think that maybe sending energy to any distant point down one wire without losses is a pretty good practical use.  And if you are correct, then the feedback could be built into the system, and suddenly you have something similar to a TPU just disguised as something else.

Also, Faster frequencies are only one way to go about this. The goal is to compress and decompress the electron gas inside the conductor before it moves, we don?t have to go faster and faster though, we can also restrict the movement of the electrons, and use dielectrics instead of conductors. Ones with a high enough K values will have nice springy electron gas clouds that are very responsive, and will work even at lower frequencies. Also, we cannot be using sine wave frequencies! This is known, they are too soft and far from abrupt. Look at everybody who has successfully done one wire transmission, where they using sine waves? Or were they using a spark gap or pulse generator? Stiffler is an exception, but he is in the MHz range, Frolov has accomplished the same but at a 10Khz range, using pulses. These pulses are strong enough to rip electrons from neutral metal object.

Plus you will never see the electron sucking effect if you are using waves that oscillate between negative and positive, then you set up a situation where your one wire is sucking electrons from neutral metal, and giving them back in the same spark. We only want to collect them, one direction. This means using dc pulsed power.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #111 on: October 18, 2007, 05:23:50 PM »
The cat is scratching to get out of Schr?dinger's bag...

EXCELLENT new vid with some cynical humor from Ron Stiffler (in response to negative quips by some naysayers) will be up on YouTube very soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6shraRAYCw

Dr.S keeps chopping off the skeptic's legs from under them, and they are now grasping at straws.

What will be their next objection to the looming possibility that there is new player in the field of EE: "cold electricity" ...

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #112 on: October 18, 2007, 06:44:15 PM »
Wow,
now it is clear that really the ferrite cores do the power
amplification.
Just using one wire would not be possible to do this otherwise !

The on/off  of the LEDs ir probably done by tuning the frequency
a bit up and down and each core has a slightly different resonance frequency
and Q factor, so be detuning too far away one LED is already going out.

Offline armagdn03

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #113 on: October 18, 2007, 07:24:09 PM »
DARN! i wish I could see the video, im at work though and my world is filtered.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #113 on: October 18, 2007, 07:24:09 PM »
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Offline tao

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #114 on: October 18, 2007, 07:48:55 PM »
Thats better, BUT, it's time he did some real LOOPING or small battery testing.

Avramenko himself could send 1 KW down a single wire easily, even through non conductors, but that is TRANSPORT.

I reference Avramenko, because Stiffler is showing only the single wire connecting to his circuit and almost implying that because of this 1 wire, OU is evident. I am only saying, sure, there might very well be OU, and even OU in Avramenko's setups (WHEN CONFIGURED RIGHT), but until we get something more concrete like powering his circuit off a very small battery for a long time, or looping, then his LED lighting effect might be nothing other than simple Avramenko 1 wire energy transmission.

2 cents for now...

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #115 on: October 18, 2007, 08:12:48 PM »
Well, I forgot to see,
that he did not show the amplitude driving this time
the circuit, so I assumed, he still used only 1 or 2 Volts...
but we don?t know this now...so TAO is right,
it depends on the amplitude on the one wire, if we see
something special here or, if it is just a one wire power
transmission ala Avramenko.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Offline fritz

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #116 on: October 18, 2007, 10:52:30 PM »
.....
Even the "shield" used is only a poor "electric" shield.
The ferrite coil is a "magnetic" antenna.
Even the "input" wire might catch enough em -....

What I want to see:

This circuit, soldered together in a "compressed" way,
hanging from the ceiling of an absorber hall with a nylon wire
(1m), input supplied via a single(not shielded wire) - 3m long,
connected to a pulse generate with a symmetric output
(or a balun) attached right at the generator; no other equipement
in the room.
...
rgds.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #117 on: October 18, 2007, 11:10:22 PM »
...
Even a not properly grounded pulse generator
could induce the needed energy.
-> generator ground + signal "riding" - means
coupled by parasitic capacity to line voltage.

The "single" wire led (grounded by the fingers
of the experimenter) - would act like a
screwdriver with discharge lamp as used by
electricians ...


Offline bolt

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #118 on: October 19, 2007, 06:46:39 AM »
I think its pretty neat lets face it he has demonstrated more then anyone else in this forum especially against those running power supplies of 12 volts and 6 amps lighting bulbs and claiming they are getting extracted power LOL.


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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #119 on: October 19, 2007, 04:38:50 PM »
Self-power or earth power?

...or Dr. Stiffler's magnetic personality?

Hey folks - he is being a little cute here, but if it
has not dawned on you yet- this is the most important
video on free energy that any "earthling" has ever witnessed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdJm9QCVJHY

Someone better call an ambulance for Fritz - he looks quite ill and
possibly has choked on something ;-)

 

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