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Author Topic: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile  (Read 62584 times)

gaby de wilde

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #75 on: October 15, 2007, 03:01:58 AM »
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Technically, that makes me a merchant of death.

I have this fetish with torturing sadists. Stan Meyer filled up the patent office with hydrogen gas utilising a small battery. Technically that qualifies as a terrorist attack.

I'm not sure what still justifies killing a million Iraqi civilians to drive SUV's. But what do I know? I mean I use to think those SUV's where rather large for a means of transportation, I didn't know peeps was planning on living in them. Isn't the US peoples ability of having a house and driving their car a mater of national security? I'm not understanding any of it.... ROFL!

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2007, 04:08:08 AM »
You are singing to the Choir Gaby. It is not 1 million, try 3 million. 2 million between 1992 and 2002.

500,000 of them children from dysentery. Here in America we have been chemically dumbed down by the government through our food supply with aspartame and MSG just to name a few. I live in a sea of zombies and it is scary. But don't think that just the US government is involved, it was many countries that is helping our with things like torture and troops.

It really gets down to a war between the western world quietly run by Jews and a legal system based in the Torah and the Arab world of Islamic law. The money masters -vs- the oil men.

This war is being fought on behalf of Israel as they plan to continue to expand their territory far beyond what they have. They now receive oil through a pipeline built by Rothschild in the 50's to Haifa Israel. Most of the US bases are along that pipeline.

Most western governments were hijacked by the Zionist as Zionism started way back in 1898. They got control of the money systems and from there, it was a piece of cake to take over the media, politics, medical, legal,etc. Where there is money, there is a small group of people loyal to Israel in control.

We will all live like, and be treated like the Palestinians in our land someday if we do not do something. It is happening here in the US now. It won't work though, the people are waking up and are getting pissed off.

The easy way to destroy that cabal without killing millions of people is through an energy revolution. We take away the two main components of their power, oil and petro bucks.

But hey, if this does not work, my cookbook idea is a good fall back position.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2007, 04:43:10 AM »
Also I should have mentioned - If Stan Meyer ever made gas at MW levels has never been proven and not what he patented. What he patented was a pulsed plasma water igniter and most if not all the parts can be had off the shelf. Stan was the third person to my knowledge to patent that and no aspect of what he patented was new from what I see.

People will eventually get tired of making bubbles and build the injector, replace their plug wires with steel wires and put a spark booster on their coil and feed their WFC foam into the injector..

shruggedatlas

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2007, 04:43:41 AM »

It really gets down to a war between the western world quietly run by Jews and a legal system based in the Torah and the Arab world of Islamic law. The money masters -vs- the oil men.

This war is being fought on behalf of Israel as they plan to continue to expand their territory far beyond what they have. They now receive oil through a pipeline built by Rothschild in the 50's to Haifa Israel. Most of the US bases are along that pipeline.

Most western governments were hijacked by the Zionist as Zionism started way back in 1898. They got control of the money systems and from there, it was a piece of cake to take over the media, politics, medical, legal,etc. Where there is money, there is a small group of people loyal to Israel in control.

Isn't that sweet!  Gaby, you made a new skinhead friend.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #79 on: October 15, 2007, 04:46:48 AM »
It really gets down to a war between the western world quietly run by Jews and a legal system based in the Torah and the Arab world of Islamic law. The money masters -vs- the oil men.

This war is being fought on behalf of Israel as they plan to continue to expand their territory far beyond what they have. They now receive oil through a pipeline built by Rothschild in the 50's to Haifa Israel. Most of the US bases are along that pipeline.

Most western governments were hijacked by the Zionist as Zionism started way back in 1898. They got control of the money systems and from there, it was a piece of cake to take over the media, politics, medical, legal,etc. Where there is money, there is a small group of people loyal to Israel in control.

BOO!

Everyone who read that will always remember that you're a paranoid anti-semite.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #80 on: October 15, 2007, 05:48:30 AM »
Well done Feenrg4me,

Adolf Hitler would be proud of you, for the rest of us your views stink!

Hans von Lieven

gaby de wilde

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #81 on: October 15, 2007, 07:45:56 AM »
Isn't that sweet!  Gaby, you made a new skinhead friend.
Hair isn't very tasty anyway. I guess you could use it to tie a ham. More then an ornament it will never be on the diner table.

Trust me.

gaby de wilde

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #82 on: October 15, 2007, 07:56:27 AM »
Adolf Hitler would be proud of you, for the rest of us your views stink!

Could you be a bit more specific explaining where you don't agree, deliver evidence of such etc

Attacking the messenger does not qualify as logic. I think of you as an above average intellectual Hans, this kind of school bully behaviour is exactly what we are talking about here.

If you don't agree with something then you take the responsibility to explain it. Don't blame people for being confused if you are to lazy to explain why they are wrong about something. If you are in the know jet are not willing to explain then you are the cause of others not knowing, this is hardly a position to complain about it in stead? Explain about~what  some~one is wrong and specify why you think this is so.

That's how it works remember? Or not?

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #83 on: October 15, 2007, 09:34:56 AM »
G'day Gaby,

The only way to counter school bully behaviour is to be a bigger bully, these arseholes do not understand any other language.

I could have gone into explaining where his views are total reflections of ideas expressed in "Mein Kampf" but it would have been over his head. No amount of rational explanations ever get through to people with this kind of bias.

Besides, I was not attacking a messenger, I was attacking the originator of a number of idiotic , racist and despicable statements. That makes this prick a legitimate target for people with more socially desirable values and morals. To argue with people like this is fruitless.

Better just to call him an idiot and move on.

Hans von Lieven
« Last Edit: October 15, 2007, 09:55:14 AM by hansvonlieven »

Freenrg4me

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #84 on: October 15, 2007, 03:49:56 PM »
I get called a skinhead nazi, asshole, idiot and god knows what else for pointing out that the US is controlled by a small group of Zionist? One person (Rahm Emanual) interviewed every democrat running for the house in the US and decided who got how much DNC money for their campaigns.

Anyone informed person living in the US knows exactly who started that war and who they represent.

Maybe you are not from here, maybe you are misinformed, maybe you don't use the medical system, legal system, watch a mass media controlled by 7 Zionist Jews, etc., but we do.

I am not anti-semite any more than I am anti-mexican or anti-ice cream. What I am, is anti-corruption which I guess makes me anti-washington dc, anti-war, anti-fiat money which can be inflated (stolen) by a corporation without government oversight or taxpayer representation, anti crime syndicate whether it being the wacko jewish lobby or the wacko christian lobby.

Anyway, if that makes me a bad person (in your eyes), I am willing to live with that.

What I am not going to do is call you an skin head, asshole, nazi, etc. That is what people do when they are incapable of forming a thought or want to destroy truth. The Zionist controlled media does it all the time, hence people turning off their TV in large numbers.

All I said was you are all right some of the time and I think you could all agree with that. The patent office and system as a whole, is corrupted by many entities. That is true.

BTW - People are being taken from their countries and being thrown in jail for challenging the jewish version of the holocaust. Ever seen someone kidnapped and thrown in jail for denying Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, that George Bush is a Christian or was honestly elected?

Reality bites doesn't it? This makes my point quite well in the news today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4733820.stm
British historian David Irving has been found guilty in Vienna of denying the Holocaust of European Jewry and sentenced to three years in prison.

http://www.jewishtimes.com/News/7042.stm
Jewish institutions will receive the majority of U.S. federal funds designated this year to help secure non-profit organizations. Of the 308 grants awarded through the Urban Areas Security Initiative Non-Profit Security Grant Program, 251 are being allocated to Jewish groups totaling $19.6 million.

And the people are waking up to this reality.
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/10/ron-paul-wins-al-straw-poll-by.html
 

shruggedatlas

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #85 on: October 15, 2007, 04:33:32 PM »
I get called a skinhead nazi, asshole, idiot and god knows what else for pointing out that the US is controlled by a small group of Zionist? One person (Rahm Emanual) interviewed every democrat running for the house in the US and decided who got how much DNC money for their campaigns.

No rational person is ever going to debate you on your claims.  It involves "getting down in the mud," so to speak, and nobody wants to be in the mud with you.  Continue through life with these notions at your own risk.

Freenrg4me

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #86 on: October 15, 2007, 04:51:19 PM »
"No rational person is ever going to debate you on your claims.  It involves "getting down in the mud," so to speak, and nobody wants to be in the mud with you.  Continue through life with these notions at your own risk."

No rational person can debate these simple facts. That is the problem you have, not me.

As someone that intimated you were an attorney in a previous post, what OU device are you working on?

I have worked with perhaps a thousand attorneys in my life and never met a single one with a modicum of interest in this subject. Perhaps you have another agenda.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #87 on: October 15, 2007, 05:12:14 PM »
"No rational person is ever going to debate you on your claims.  It involves "getting down in the mud," so to speak, and nobody wants to be in the mud with you.  Continue through life with these notions at your own risk."

No rational person can debate these simple facts. That is the problem you have, not me.

As someone that intimated you were an attorney in a previous post, what OU device are you working on?

I have worked with perhaps a thousand attorneys in my life and never met a single one with a modicum of interest in this subject. Perhaps you have another agenda.

Yes, and I am also Jewish and I support Israel.  Wait, hold on, I am getting instructions now from one of my seven Zionist overlords (Steven Spielberg this time!).  I will now proceed to spread disinformation.

Freenrg4me

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #88 on: October 15, 2007, 05:36:22 PM »
Yes, and I am also Jewish and I support Israel.  Wait, hold on, I am getting instructions now from one of my seven Zionist overlords (Steven Spielberg this time!).  I will now proceed to spread disinformation.

Well at least you can admit it. :-) I notice that you don't answer the simple question though. What OU device are you working on?

Two attempts at the wax off didn't work. Like I said, you can't debate simple facts.

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Re: US Patent Office Has Granted Patents for Perpetuum Mobile
« Reply #89 on: October 15, 2007, 05:55:51 PM »
@shruggedatlas,

What do you think, will these organizations do the job:

http://www.pubpat.org/

http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/

Have you heard of them or of similar organizations? Do you think they may help in resolving the problem?

I have not heard of them, but the pubpat.org organization seems particularly interesting.  It files for reexamination and then produces prior art to invalidate patents.  I found a brief overview of reexamination.  I have not been involved in reexamination, but only in litigation as a researcher, so I am not familiar with this process, but it appears to be a speedier option to litigation.  It was introduced in 1980, looks like.

http://www.baypatents.com/reexam.asp

I think you would still need prior art to invalidate the patent.  The PTO will probably not care that the idea cannot work, though I agree that this notion offends sensibility.
Question is, regarding reexamination, what constitutes prior art? Can the fact that Science denies the workability of such machines (and therefore they cannot be new and useful as the law requires) be prior art? If it can, it would be newly discovered prior art regarding the patent in question (and all related prior patents, of course) which should render the patent invalid. What do you think?.