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Offline acerzw

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Re: Control Inside?
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2007, 01:29:30 PM »
How about this for a theory of the coil construction?

I think that in that picture the coil looks like it made of 3 layers of 2 materials sandwiched together with some kind of thin conducting material in the between to make sure the layers act as one but are free to move in relation to each other when magnetorestriction is applied, as theorised by tao.

There have been various articles about coated cooper etc, maybe the inner layer of the sandwich is copper and the outer two are aluminum/iron or some other material that under magnetorestriction produces excess ions which are then taken up by the inner layer of copper by passing through an intermediate layer of thin foil?

 ---------- ______  ---------                                                                    ---------- ______  ---------
|  Iron   | copper |  Iron  |                                Center                         |  Iron   | copper |  Iron  |
---------------------------------                                                                    ----------------------------------

Perhaps only the outside layers of the coil sandwich are magnetorestricted and the inner layer takes the ions/current away?

Obviously the control coils/frequencies are used to create the magnetorestrictive effect as discussed previously....

I have not examined the video in detail but maybe, if he is shown cutting the coil, the time he takes to cut through the coil and the tool used would give some indication of the hardness of the material?

« Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 06:41:20 PM by acerzw »

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Re: Control Inside?
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2007, 06:22:57 PM »
I have never seen this 'cutting' video. Now I wish I had.

This looks almost identical to my current open tpu attempt. Construction of the 'plates':

Aluminum banding made from heavy gauge roof flashing material in a roll. I sheared it into .25 inch bands.
Each band has .2 inch thick 'roll foam' attached to one side.
Two bands are atttached together at one end and wrapped as a spiral-bifilar flat winding.
The final ring dimensions are 8.6 inch O.D. and 7.75 inch I.D.

At each quadrant a lobe was formed extending to the center - as is shown in the video.

I have more layers than your cutaway shows. Connecting the layers in bifilar fashion makes a massive increase in effects. Not that Sm connected them bifilar!

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Re: Control Inside?
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2007, 07:13:50 PM »
How about this for a theory of the coil construction?

Are you thinking giant magnetostriction or giant magnetoresistance? Both will happen. If you aren't familiar with the terms you should be.
My Cook coil used it. copper wire encased in aluminum - run current through the AL to effect magnetic and resistive results for the copper.
This is why I was so hyper on the BrnBrade coil. He could have had something if he stuck with it.

This is an effective way to minimize the effects of CEMF and cancel out one side of a standing magnetic wave to aid in rotation.

I don't think the TPU uses it so I haven't gone that route.

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Re: Control Inside?
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2007, 08:51:45 PM »
@Ronotte and all

Thanks for your kind words. I am happy to see that you and others are taking a closer look at the 17incher and welcome any ideas on things that I may have missed as I am sure there are. I mentioned a few locations on the diagram where a closer look by several people would be good to convene on what they are. Especially the wires leading to the white connector. HOW MANY WIRES DO YOU SEE on the connector coming from the TPU and going into the control box.

As for the top and bottom of the TPU, I cannot say yet but will investigate this further. But one thing to keep in mind is that the TPU has a total weight of just under 10 pounds. I would imagine that if the top and bottom were three metal rings of 17" diameter, the weight of these would break the bank by themselves.

If the center core was a softer material, it only seems logical that the top and bottom pieces must be hard enough to withstand the total stress of the collectors wound over the structure. As if the soft part was pressed like a sandwich with the vertical winding.

So I am not sure of this yet and would have to look again, and again, and again, and so on.

One other point that we have seen in the other thread on the open TPU. It is now more than clear that the device uses a battery. I have just finished preparing a transcript of that part of the video and Tao also confirmed it. I noticed the great hesitation when SM was aksed if there were any batteries. His hesitation says it all. Plus the fact that he says if there were any batteries in the device they would be very very very very small. This is major because it explains more of the sleek design having to do away with any looping back control of energy.

So what's good for the goose is good for the gander and we can expect to eventually learn that the 17" TPU also had batteries. We now know there was room for up to 206 batteries. Granted maybe not enough to do the whole demo, but enought to produce the demo via this TPU design that could simply be a current multiplier. I'd take one anyday. But again, I am neither for or against a TPU. I am for the truth.

Maybe one last thing when inspecting the open TPU. It has dawned on me that Otto's ECD should be used upside down. Small ring on the bottom, large ring on the top.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2007, 12:10:45 AM by wattsup »

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Re: Control Inside?
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2007, 09:35:43 PM »
Hi Whatsup,

during ECD test  Otto were able to trace the mag field generated by the Tornado by using a magnetized needle and up to a couple of meters in vertical of the unit. The small ring purpose is just that to create a 'gradient' and sure it should be used upside-down...but for testing purposes it appears to be not interesting.


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Re: Control Inside?
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2007, 10:35:00 PM »

Where may I find this video showing the cut away TPU?
« Last Edit: October 06, 2007, 03:32:44 AM by BEP »

Offline olympios

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Re: Control Inside?
« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2007, 07:00:42 AM »
I find it hard to believe that if SM faked it that he would bother perpetuating a hoax by posting cryptic clues, it would seem to be a waste of time. Also if he has made no money out of it why would he continue unless it was real?


I totaly agree with that. Why would someone pull a stunt like that, which cost to him around $1,000  especially when there is nothing to gain from that! He didn't have anything for sale so to say he did that to boost the sales, lol. I can understand people sitting in front of their computers and writing a virus; it doesn't cost anything to them. But paying $1,000 for batteries...
Macedonia said that the device is an... atomic bomb!!! Any explanation would be appreciated. Obviously he is talking about the "runaway condition". Being a good guy, with a good heart (like he claims to be), wouldn't it be nice to explain how is it done? What is the secrecy for? It is my opinion, if you come in an open public forum, you must open your mind and tell everybody what you know. If you like to keep some critical parts as a secret, then open your own site and work from there. We have enough puzzles to solve as is. I read in some post that some people say: "It is your right not to disclose all your info". I dissagree with that. If we really want to help humanity we all should work together and share ideas. We all know what happens to "secrets". The person dies, the secret goes with them! As for the patents, they are altered, misleading and most likely we get nothing out of them.
Anyway, sorry about getting off topic.
I have to agree though that Mac gave us a good hint, after all. He said that there are no electronics involved in the SM setup, just coils and a diode. Does that ring a bell?  You remember, in electronics school, they start us with the simplest radio. A tuning coil, a piece of galena (diode), an adjustable capacitor and a headset. The diode is used to separate the audio from the carrier wave. Mac mentioned the Earth's magnetic waves (resonance?). What would happen if that coil is tuned to Earth's freq? Or, three coils placed on a collector, tuned to that freq? I haven't read all the threads here, but has anyone done this?