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Author Topic: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??  (Read 11156 times)

hansvonlieven

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MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« on: October 05, 2007, 11:28:30 PM »
G'day all,

I have been sent this photograph of an alleged Keely device.

Does someone have an idea what it is and what it is supposed to do?

It has got me stuffed.

Hans von Lieven
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Nastrand2000

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2007, 11:29:52 PM »
My guess is its electrostatic in nature.
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hansvonlieven

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2007, 11:34:03 PM »
G'day Jason,

You mean like a kind of Wimshurst Machine?

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Nastrand2000

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2007, 11:42:10 PM »
Yeah, I've looked at many different types of high voltage machines and this one just has that same feel to it. I could be way off base, but thats my best guess. Let me look through some of the electrostatic machines located on this page http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/electrostatic.html and see if I can find one that is similar.
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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2007, 01:57:55 AM »
Yes, I agree with Nastrand, it does appear to be electrostatic in nature.  My first thought was of the Wimshurst electrostatic generator as you said Hans.

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lancaIV

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2007, 02:01:33 AM »
Bi-metal(l),temperature sensitive, engine ?

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2007, 02:02:18 AM »
Hans:

After a second look I noticed that the parts of the device appear to be labeled.  Is there any way to enlarge the photo and enhance enough to read the writing?  This would gives us a better idea of what it might be. I have some enhancement software, but it doesn't really do much.  Someone here probably has something that might work.

Bill
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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2007, 02:30:01 AM »
(http://)

This might be a little better but the software is not that good as I said.
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hansvonlieven

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2007, 05:16:23 AM »
G'day all,

Together with you Bill I do not think this is a version of a Wimshurst machine, it could indeed be Keely. It is a shame it is only a lousy jpg and not an original scan. Looking at it though, in spite of the poor resolution, what appear to be sectors in an electrostatic generator could easily be resonators especially as they seem to occupy too little space radially to be very effective in electrostatic generation.

The writing appears to be an attempt of someone to analyse the device, writing directly on a photograph.

In the lowest right hand section I think I can make out the words "Small"  and  "Chladni" which would indicate it to be of an acoustic nature, at least in the eyes of the investigator.

Above that    Disk to have ???????

The top left hand section seems to read Agitation Disk.

Underneath:     Small ??

Underneath      ?? the photograph of ????????

I wonder if anyone else would agree with me on this.

Thanks for your help fellows, you are all champions.

Hans von Lieven
« Last Edit: October 06, 2007, 05:39:20 AM by hansvonlieven »
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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2007, 05:38:55 AM »
Small "oblates"(=plates/discs) ?

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hansvonlieven

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2007, 05:41:25 AM »
Maybe maybe not, at least it's fun :-)

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2007, 11:21:29 PM »
Here you can get books from the 1800's mentioning Keely works.
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=keely&go=&form=QBRE&scope=books#q=keely%20motor&filter=free&start=1
Other then that it is a great source to find very old complete books.

Steven
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2007, 07:18:25 AM »
This is a note I received from Russ, another Keely researcher;

"The device is a discontinued unit that was not performing function. (Unworkable)

Keely built this to obtain sound force from liberating atoms of air gases , and provide useful output.

Notations around the model read - from counterclockwise left side -- Agitation disc, Small chladna, Have no photographs of back view at present, Small chladna, Disc to be sensitized, The back of which the Transmitters are attatched, steel plates, vulcanite discs, Universal fork. The notation on large plate reads- Domanant chladna."

That seems to settle it, doesn't it?

Hans von Lieven
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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2007, 07:24:05 AM »
Mystery solved.  That's a lot more than I could read from my enhanced version.

Bill
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Re: MYSTERY OBJECT, Keely device ??
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2007, 01:18:45 PM »
G'day Bill,

I have a feeling Russ has a much better version of the photograph. :-)

Hans
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