Author Topic: SMOT! - (previously about the OC MPMM) (Read 181216 times)

Omnibus · « **Reply #480 on:** March 15, 2008, 03:09:36 AM »

One thing that was accomplished this week, among other things, is that @shruggedatlas is now on the way to understanding that none of the trivial "gedanken" experiments she was proposing is in any way an analog of the SMOT. SMOT is one of a kind unusual experiment which proves unequivocally violation of CoE, something no other mechanical device has been shown to do so far. Proving that CoE can be violated has far reaching consequences one of which is that said principle must not be considered as a general principle any more.

Low-Q · « **Reply #481 on:** March 15, 2008, 11:49:16 AM »

If there is excess energy somewhere, in which part of the SMOT is this happening?

Vidar

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #482 on:** March 15, 2008, 06:21:49 PM »

@ Low-Q:

I think what he is saying is that since the ball ends up at a higher elevation than when it started, the ball's potential energy has increased. Like a bowling ball 10 feet off the ground has greater potential energy than one 1 inch off the ground.

Bill

Low-Q · « **Reply #483 on:** March 15, 2008, 08:04:53 PM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 15, 2008, 06:21:49 PM

@ Low-Q:

I think what he is saying is that since the ball ends up at a higher elevation than when it started, the ball's potential energy has increased. Like a bowling ball 10 feet off the ground has greater potential energy than one 1 inch off the ground.

Bill

OK thanks. That means it gains potential energy when going from B to C. Wouldn't the magnetic field at point C count for this energy gain? The potential energy in point C is considered to be a result of both gravity and magnetism - gravitational potential energy minus magnetically potential energy? As magnetism indeed lifts the ball up according to gravity, this force should be subtracted from the gravitational potential energy at point C, then ending up in the same or less potential energy than in point B, hence the ball can be able to escape from C and ending at in point A?

I think someone has turned some elements in his equation upside/down - just a thought.

Vidar

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