Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project  (Read 65247 times)

hansvonlieven

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2558
    • Keelytech
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #90 on: December 27, 2007, 10:09:56 PM »
you mean the gun in the bottom left corner?

Hans

not_a_mib

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #91 on: December 28, 2007, 04:50:00 AM »
Another potential hazard:  the human body is mostly water.  One might wish to operate the test cell remotely to avoid getting "liberated."

Evil ideas
1.  Replace someone's iPod tunes with Keely chords.
2.  When some telemarketer calls, play the "liberation" chord into the telephone handset.

hansvonlieven

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2558
    • Keelytech
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #92 on: December 28, 2007, 09:25:30 AM »
Another potential hazard:  the human body is mostly water.  One might wish to operate the test cell remotely to avoid getting "liberated."

Evil ideas
1.  Replace someone's iPod tunes with Keely chords.
2.  When some telemarketer calls, play the "liberation" chord into the telephone handset.


LOL

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hans

Meta

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 218
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #93 on: December 28, 2007, 09:40:23 PM »
you mean the gun in the bottom left corner?

Hans

Yes Hans,

That's the gun, only I saw it from the side view, in what seemed to be an outdoor setting.

Meta

hansvonlieven

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2558
    • Keelytech
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #94 on: December 28, 2007, 09:52:34 PM »
G'day,

This gun was never meant to be a weapon. Keely used it to demonstrate ehteric vapour and its propulsive qualities. It shot a conventional projectile and was propelled with his dissociated water vapour.

Greetings

Hans von Lieven

Cat_Tinka

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #95 on: May 04, 2008, 06:30:46 PM »
Hello ! i just like to add what i found from Mr.Andrija Puharich

This device has an output consisting of an audio frequency (range 20 to 200 Hz) amplitude modulation of a carrier wave (range 200 Hz to 100,000 Hz). The impedance of this output signal is continuously being matched to the load which is the second component, the thermodynamic device. (the cell)

The second factor which helps to hold the resonant resonant frequency at 600 Hz is the gap distance of Y, between the centre electrode, and the ring electrode of the cell.

This gap distance will vary depending on the size scale of the cell, but again the current flow, I, is used to set it to the optimal distance when the voltage reads between 2.30 (rms) volts, at resonance Fo, and at molal concentration, 0.1540. The molal concentration of the water is thus seen to represent the electric term of the water molecule and hence its conductivity.

us patent ;  US3563246[1] ,and US3629521[1] ,and US3629521[1]

Good Luck from John  !!!!!






Cat_Tinka

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #96 on: May 04, 2008, 07:02:15 PM »
here is the
link to; andrija puharich and water decomposition by AC electrolyses

 http://rexresearch.com/puharich/1puhar.htm

with more indepth description

i think this is the secret disclosure worth the effort, to test.

puharich was allso a good friend of Stan Meyer

the above mention us-patents was used for medicine/hearing-aid system/blood systems etc.
but who cares if the same tools can be used for low current water splitting
this is John


fritz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 424
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #97 on: May 04, 2008, 09:08:17 PM »
The Synthesis:

If you split up water molecules by excessive torsion waves -
the problem on almost any setup I?ve seen so far is that the
splitted molecules change the density of the water exact in that
area where it happened - means the ability of further splitting
immediatly decreases.
Some patents work with pulse trains and guided, controlled or open
loop breaks or whatever, other ones match and track the impedance,
Keely uses similar with acoustic feedback.

Personally, I think that you can split up water molecules with almost
any frequency - if you achieve a critical stress momentum (by the resulting
wave motion).
The major problem is how to maintain this splitting up process - eg
how to transport/remove the gas without disturbing the splitting process.

rgds.

Cat_Tinka

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #98 on: May 05, 2008, 12:38:04 AM »
i found a new link adress
that maybe can be of interest

here.......:  http://www.wasserauto.de/html/more_cars_.html

,i could not open it, can you ?

-it says..........................;

Hallo, Water Cracking Researchers

According to Andreas Hecht from bos-list@sax.de you should have a look to "Experiment zur Hochfrequenz-Analyse von Wasser"
http://buerger.metropolis.de/drax22/

this is a so interesting theme, that i can bearly find the calmness to go to bed...

i paste some more lines from the abovementioned website:

From "FUEL FROM WATER, Energy Independence with Hydrogen" Author Michael A.Peavey Publisher Merit, Inc., P.O. Box 694 Louisville,
KY 40205 Library of Congress Number 88-188956 ISBN 0-945516-04-5, page 22: " The smallest amount of energy needed to electrolyse one mole of water is 65.3 Wh at 25 degrees Celcius (77 degress F). When the Hydrogen and Oxygen are recombined into water during combustion 79.3 Wh of energy is released. 14 Wh more energy is released in burning Hydrogen and Oxygen than is required to split water. This excess must be absorbed from the surrounding media(environment) in the form of heat during electolysis."

And then, "At 25 degrees celcius, for voltages of 1.23 to 1.47 V, the electrolysis reaction ABSORBS HEAT. At over 1.47 V at 25 degrees celcius, the reaction gives off heat."

this sounds fantastic, !!!!

dissociating water must be the smartest ,and maybe the easiest way to provide heat and fuel
and it seems to be ;not verry expencive either.
,i am really looking forward to replicate such a setup,
i,ve got a HGH 500E , but so far i've not dared to test it, it should produce abt 500ml/H/min. at 220v/180W
,i was thinking of adding it into a combustionengine,someday........
so thanks to internett for all knowledge that one can pick up here and there.
this is John ...............(have to smoke outside!!!!).









raburgeson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 705
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #99 on: May 13, 2008, 12:43:22 AM »
Hans,

does all the notes have to have the same power DB gain wise? If so the high notes will require one powerful amplifier to produce those high notes. What type of a system will you use for it? These old time inventors really whacked things with power. Every time I touch a pre Einstein circuit I'm faced with the Tesla syndrome. That might be what you are looking at here.

hansvonlieven

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2558
    • Keelytech
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #100 on: May 13, 2008, 12:56:19 AM »
G'day raburgeson,

From what I can gather Keely uses three different amplitudes for his three chords. And NO, he did not use brute power. He was using acoustic resonators only, without amplification.

If you are interested, I go into a lot of detail on this on my website http://keelytech.com

Hans von Lieven

raburgeson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 705
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #101 on: May 13, 2008, 03:31:30 AM »
I'm bogged down with three Projects now. I considered trying this in the past. It would take one big tank to contain the expansion, we considered pouring a cement tank. Never started it though, the information was less than I was hoping for, got it from rexresearch at the time. I wasn't considering brute force so much as the power it takes to produce a pure note, the higher the frequency the higher the power requirement. You are looking at signals above the audible spectrum so I inquired. I wish you every bit of luck.

Sanity101

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 3
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #102 on: May 13, 2008, 03:53:53 AM »
This goes out to anyone who is listining,
                                                                I have been playing with different plate setups for my fuel cell but Every time I turn on my fuel cell The water turns green. Could anyone tell me what im doing wrong?

ResinRat2

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1242
    • Hydrogen Reactor Vids
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #103 on: May 13, 2008, 04:32:45 AM »
This goes out to anyone who is listining,
                                                                I have been playing with different plate setups for my fuel cell but Every time I turn on my fuel cell The water turns green. Could anyone tell me what im doing wrong?

I've seen greenish water tinges in the past when parts of the copper wire were exposed beneath the surface of the liquid. The copper wire oxidizes and turns green. Could there possibly be copper wire in your setup that is exposed and immersed in your cell water?

Just a possible cause to look for.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2008, 08:43:05 PM by ResinRat2 »

rapttor

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 141
Re: DISSOCIATING WATER, A KEELY Project
« Reply #104 on: May 13, 2008, 04:43:37 AM »
Hans, I don't know if you have already seen this, but it's a two part video on Dale pond explaining Keely's work pretty in depth, if you've already seen this then my appologies taking up your time,if not... hope it helps you in your work.

Part 1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9125003792513982191&q=dale+pond&ei=Ev8oSKq6GIemrwKIze2SCg&hl=en
Part 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5430570751600484561&q=dale%20pond&hl=en

-rapttor