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Author Topic: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?  (Read 83738 times)

RadiantEnRg

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #150 on: October 19, 2007, 08:20:16 AM »
LOL, I am not emotional at all!
And I never called you a hoe...I suspect you to be a Pro ;)
As for the 200v cap's negative terminal, it is commonly grounded to the 1st circuit.... Like i said I am not hip to your lingo!!.....What I meant by PLL is that the sensing loop on the xformer is triggering the 1st circuits discharge via mosfet...hence phase locking loop ;)
Also...YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG!!!....the Fet is triggered DIRECTLY BY RESISTIVE DIVIDER!!....gate is controlled by the sensing loop....and PWM drives OPTO!!!!! which pulses output circuit!!!!
You are not an authority...Nor have you seen this circuit...so ya...nice try...Maybe you're a Pro-Hoe??? ;)

Ohh and the Tesla remark pertains to disruptive discharging of capacitors!! So please....stoo foo....LOL....as I said b4 you give yourself way!!!! too much credit
You are not psychic..and i doubt you know this circuit...or any other Delta ADP circuits....Delta is an internationally renowned power supply company.

linda933

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #151 on: October 19, 2007, 08:33:31 AM »
Lots of incorrect assertions there; still no science.  I know the circuit quite well and I am not wrong.  But it is clear you would rather argue foolishly and name-call than do a simple test which would prove that the theory of power supply disruption is not at play.  Sorry you feel that way.  It's dissapointing but not surprising.  Carry on, then, and good luck to you.

Linda

RadiantEnRg

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #152 on: October 19, 2007, 08:34:41 AM »
Ok...here's the cold hard truth Linda
I am so adamant about my power supply not doing that...because i have scoped it...and metered it with a H2Earth colleagues meter.
The fact of the matter is.....I don't like being called names.....It upsets me ;)
Like I have said maybe.....I don't know...5 times now...I kept experimenting with power supply and eventually destroyed it..along with 4 other similar ones...NOT DOING THE MOTOR OR COIL TEST!!...doing a separate experiment....where I tapped into the 1st circuit...."bad idea".....anyway Linda......I will show you as soon as I get another....However!!!....you are taking petty pot shots at my intelligence, when in fact I gave 100% disclosure...Get the power supply yourself...then you can offer your opinion...because right now...you THINK you know what exactly is in this circuit...and you THINK it's giving higher voltage.....I KNOW it's not...according to a multimeter.

So in conclusion...My frustration comes out of the fact that you make statements as if you are here with me, actually looking at the circuit I have IN MY HANDS!!!

linda933

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #153 on: October 19, 2007, 09:05:38 AM »
Did it ever occur to you that I might have one of those very same power supplies, too?  Or a full schematic?  Or that nearly all small switching supplies use very common basic app-note circuits?  Well...you should check it out...the topologies in small wall-wart switchmode power supplies have a lot more in common than they have differences.

I apologize if you feel like I am attacking you.  I don't recall ever calling you any names.  I said your understanding of how your power supply works is naive.  I still believe that...more every time you post.  All the talk of PLLs, switch-mode MOSFETs being directly driven by resistive voltage feedback dividers, etc etc etc...it's just not even on the page!

I am not the only person who has repeatedly asked you to show the voltage with a meter and/or a scope or to use a battery instead of your switching supply.  Could you please explain why you have not done that?  I am beginning to think that you have privately done it and that it (the motor speeding up) didn't work anymore using a battery or that you found the supply voltage did rise.  I can't think of any other reason you would spend so much time writing words ridiculing the idea of RF interference messing with the power supply when it would be so simple to disprove! 

Can you answer the straightforward question as to why you so vehemently refuse to check and resolve this simple matter in the way that Stefan Hartmann, myself and several others have repeatedly suggested and requested?  It's becoming quite puzzling...

Please?

Linda


RadiantEnRg

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #154 on: October 19, 2007, 09:25:14 AM »
OK LINDA....So now for the 6th time.....I fried the power supply!!!....I will gladly do it again when I pick a new one up.
I told you I HAVE done it privately.....Answer me this Linda.....Do all small power supplies give out a perfect sawtooth wave???...and do they have all the negative capacitor terminals go to an insulated plate???

Your rationalizations do not impress me...they may dissuade people....But good for them, means I will be the only one doing it ;)

And one more fact....You pride yourself on being an Imperialistic Scientist...yet you and others are BLIND....You cannot make inferences on things you cannot see.

Point in case......The Bead does not make the motor go faster in either case(the large 12v motor, or the small hobby motor)...what it does...is allow instantaneous RESONANCE!!!!!
If you go back and watch my 1st videos...you will see I must "coax" the effect(w/o bead it's faster once in resonance then with bead)....however, with the bead...all I have to do is flip a switch and it automatically hits it's NEW resonance with it's spherical spark gap/waveguide

You keep pounding this dead horse into the ground...However, I have told you HOW MANY TIMES NOW???? I blew up the power supply....I would love to smear your face in the fact that doesn't go to a higher V....Sadly i must wait to "stick the sock in your mouth"


OHHHHH....here's one more thing for ya Linda....Armagagn03 has used KVs to try and replicate....surely your not saying the lil power supply passes that??....ONE MORE TIME.....IT"S RESONANCE PEOPLE....in conjunction with BEMF!!!

RadiantEnRg

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #155 on: October 19, 2007, 09:33:04 AM »
Simply pulsing will not work!!...resonance needs to be found...and then adjusted to new resonance when arc forms...THAT IS WHY POWER SUPPLY IS SO SPECIAL....no other reason!!

linda933

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #156 on: October 19, 2007, 09:35:35 AM »
Sorry if I seem too stupid.

Let me see if I understand what you are saying: 

1.  The reason you do not show us a motor speeding up with the bead while using a battery supply is that it won't work.

2.  The reason it won't work is that the battery does not provide the essential sawtooth waveform.

3.  The sawtooth waveform is a small-amplitude high frequency AC voltage riding on top of the mainly DC voltage (27V) that your power supply puts out.

4.  Your theory is that this high frequency sawtooth waveform (otherwise known as the ripple voltage, present on all switching power supplies) resonates with the bead somehow and causes a large boost in the power delivered to the motor.

Is all of that correct?  Am I getting it finally?

Linda


RadiantEnRg

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #157 on: October 19, 2007, 09:37:41 AM »
When the power supply is on with no load....it is silent. However, when shorted, or when arc forms, or when the little hobby motor resonates...The circuit hums....Indicating resonance!! RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE.....getting it yet??????.....You build circuit that can pulse a  coil and can automatically find...then maintain resonance and no matter what input voltage(within reason to application)....you will be in business.

linda933

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #158 on: October 19, 2007, 09:46:36 AM »
Could you slow down for the retarded here and just indicate if the four points I made are exactly correct understanings or not, please?

Then, after that, could you tell me about this :"hum": and if its audible or what...

Thanks

RadiantEnRg

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #159 on: October 19, 2007, 09:49:57 AM »
Close Linda...
The reason I have not showed it with a battery is
1. Because the lil motor that auto tunes to resonance is destroyed...the arc melted brushes/commutator after long use.(no problem, because all lil hobby motors are constructed the same way...having 3 coils/3commutator contacts/2brushes)

2. Because I do not have the skill, nor money to build my own 12v oscillator circuit, with it's own PLL...(Resonance alters due to load, and needs to be matched) All I can build is a simple astable  555 circuit with crude pots to adjust...which wouldn't be so bad on motor...(I need another motor)..however..i have a HUGE project in the works, which will prove this all on a much bigger scale

3. I have many small 12v batteries....I have drained most of them :(

4.I am simply not working on it right now. I have an analog resonant coil I am building now, I plan to prove all of this further....using around 110Kv :) (10 12v batteries in series pulsed into transformer....for all you battery people)...


Linda I know it may seem like I am dodging your curiosity....I am not, I took measurements, and would love to show you guys again.....so in the meanwhile, i am going to go to FreeGeek..an electronic recycler, and pick up some power supplies, they have a whole huge box of em.....then i will post videos with scope data k??...at least till I can get to batteries



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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #160 on: October 19, 2007, 09:58:58 AM »
I confess now that I am thoroughly spun, confused, bewildered and totally numb.  I will await your further reports with bated breath.  Glad we were able to get to here without too much bloodshed.  Have a ball with it. 

I'll never understand about the batteries, the ripple sawtooth, what is supposed to be resonating with what and all that, I guess.  It makes no sense to me at all and if I ask any more questions I can tell we will just go round and round forever, so I'm going to quit while I'm behind.  I have classes tomorrow anyway. This is only a small part of my unfinished homework! 

Thanks for your impatient patience and I'm glad we can "still be friends"...I hope...

Linda

RadiantEnRg

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #161 on: October 19, 2007, 09:59:44 AM »
Umm, yes....your points are almost 100%
A straight battery will not work...just like the straight power supply barely worked
Umm, the small saw tooth wave form is like you said mostly DC...but going through a bifilar choke, I suspect it picks up an AC overtone.
In resonance....i am not sure it gets more energy....although if you are familiar with Bedini chargers...he does the same thing..resonating a battery lets it suck in free electrons???...My theory is more along the lines that resonance acts like a kid pushing a swing...and in the motor the commutator is making many adbrupt breaks, which allows BEMF to be used in the motor...hence the HUGE green arc inside it, (for now you will have to take my word that it was metered at 27v), If you want, you could come into my H2Earth channel maybe and ask Jeff himself???...or just wait till I get another power supply

the bead is spherical, and circles are VERY conducive of resonance....pi=3.14.....motor has 3 coils?? Just throwing some stuff out there

RadiantEnRg

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #162 on: October 19, 2007, 10:05:07 AM »
The load must resonate with the circuits output.....Hence I believe the jamming is correct..but not jamming open voltage...jamming open frequency
The coil is a factor of 1...meaning one spark increents...so it tunes to resoance quite easy....the motors on the other hand....the Big `12v is balanced so it has an even increment of 2...the lill motor is off balanced...it has odd increments..so in complex ratios it can tune by 1 increment like the coil alone. This probably doesn't make sense, but I can't explain better what resonates with what...You would have to see my journal, and my notes of the lil motor's phases/sets

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #163 on: October 19, 2007, 10:05:58 AM »
Try not to fry yourself, okay?  Nighty nite now!

Linda

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Re: Negative resistance via pyroclay.com material ?
« Reply #164 on: October 19, 2007, 10:11:28 AM »
Sorry for the spelling errors....and I forgot the Big motor, it never truly resonates with the circuit...(due to balance)

And Linda...I get mad sometimes because I am not very good with terms, and so people try to discredit my findings because I can't phase it correctly...but, Would a rose by any other name be less beautifult?..But I assure you I am not naive. Hopeful, but not naive. Sorry for my (Pro/Hoe) comment, I get a lot of desperate/commited attempts to humiliate/refute my experiments...and it does get a lil old.
But, ya no harsh feelings...again sorry ;)