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Offline Grumpy

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #225 on: October 12, 2007, 04:45:29 AM »
One other thing:

In this U.E.C video, SM turns the 6" TPU in several directions and it keeps working, so it appears that he has eliminated the "flipping over" problem.

Each TPU has a thick section to it - like 3/4" to 1".  This is far thicker than required for just a single wrap around a core wire - even a thick one.


Hmm. Perhaps a "loose" coupling is required between the controls and the collector...

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« Reply #226 on: October 12, 2007, 06:01:00 AM »
Grumpy you posted over 600 messages yet i can only imagine you are covering the same stuff over and over. The 2 frequency theory has been discussed many times as 2 frequencies can easily make 3 but this is no mystery SM says in the vids turning on 1 then 2 which really makes 3 we know that for sure because its in his notes! He said use THREE frequencies.

The inversion has been covered too because the device becomes polarized when its not symmetrical. By moving the control down inside the coil instead of on top the polarization is lost. But i always wondered why so many thought this was some kind of a major problem even the "investors" mentioned this but what the heck do you worry about your car battery working upside down or not so the acid pours out? Mine works perfectly well up one way and thats all we need to know.

As for the gap yes we can all see that and should do the same. It may be required to reduce feedback or to produce a capacitance effect/ waveguide and is surprisingly one characteristic which has remained throughout the tpu range so it must be very important.


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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #227 on: October 12, 2007, 06:23:20 AM »
I was leading up to something, but screw it! 

(Polarized when not symmetrical - LOL!)

Since you have all the answers, where's your working TPU?

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« Reply #227 on: October 12, 2007, 06:23:20 AM »
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #228 on: October 12, 2007, 06:30:27 AM »
Grumpy thats the first time i seen you laugh:)

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #229 on: October 12, 2007, 06:35:53 AM »
Just noticed this.

The ring is made of black 1/4" Plexiglass. That's why some of the ends are chipped. Also and as incredibly as it may seem, again at 38:38 you can see his right hand thumb through the Plexiglass when he tilts the bottom of the tpu towards the camera. That also explains why you could mistake an outer wire going around the TPU, which it does not. The outer edge is darker and the flat side is lighter because of the rings semi-transparent nature. That's also why it is so reflective when the two lamps are lit, you can see the bright reflections off the TPU.

It's funny, when I first started looking at this device, I saw a dark video with not much definition. But once you start looking and you start knowing what you are looking at, it starts making sense. You concentrate less on those points as they are now obvious and start looking for other angles.

More time will tell.

I also saw two white wires going to a third coil (on leg #3), but I have to look more closely. I will have to revise the drawing when I get more changes.

You have to be careful. The video can create illusions when looked at in pause mode. You have to advance or reverse frame by frame to make sure the object is on the TPU and not background crap, like his pants, the plug box, the small black object on the table, etc. In certain angles, you will see the collector #1 much fatter. Makes it look like it is wound over another coil, but it's not. Those collectors are well wound and they look tight. And I am beginning to see the collector wires are not regular round conductor wire. It resembles the ovalish telephone wires and may be more than 1 conductor. Now this is starting to make more sense.

If there are two conductors or more in the collector wires, you can use them as two fields turning. You can have them turn in opposite directions. Son of a gun, just like when he slaps his hands together to show the fields in continuous collisions.
They can even turn in the same direction but with a slight delay to create drag on the coils. I'm freaking out.

You can use one as feedback. There could be three wires in the collector wire.

Wire is important for sure. Both the collectors and coils are special wiring. Nothing standard.

@z_p_e

Maybe we should stick around here instead of spreading out too thin.

I don't remember talking about a vertical coil on the legs. Could you point me there.

@BEP

First off, I hope you were not thinking that I was pointing at you in particular in my last post. I was not and excuse me if it seemed so. I was pointing to everyone and anyone who is working on this device. Sorry again.

You know, every post I put down, I don't put down an average of 2 others. Words are words.

I would rather spend some time inspecting the hell out of this device before I make a build spec in order to reduce the variables to an ultimate minimum. If this can save others time and grief, then it is worth it.

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« Reply #230 on: October 12, 2007, 06:44:59 AM »
SM said he used a bit of old lamp or speaker wire. That tends to come as a pair sometimes fig 8 with a slight twist. He said the thinner copper stuff works just as good as thick chunky cable. If his notes are true and uniform throughout the model range (probably not) there should be 3 control coils and 3 collectors although collectors can easily be 1 + 2.

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #231 on: October 12, 2007, 06:50:48 AM »
You should ask Mannix to send you the decent quality vids im sure he has the full Xmas box set in HDTV. :)

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #232 on: October 12, 2007, 11:25:25 AM »
Hi all!

@Wattsup,

well after my post I went to my workbench and I did the following test: just coiled 20 mt of my 40 leads Litz wire  (coil diameter = 10 cm on air) soldered all the leads together on both ends and connected them to my scope  (so not serializing anything for now).

Then SLIDED a 1cm x 4 cm ceramic bar magnet over.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED: ABOUT 0.3 V peak to peak DC output!!!!!!!! with a fdo just following the magnet movement....FAR SUPERIOR TO ANY ASPECTATIVE!!!

So CHARGED by that fact I took an old air coil I used for spark experiments (coil with 500 turn of 0.25 mm enameled wire) and did same tests, results:

AS BEFORE BUT WITH  ALMOST 0.7V


Then I put two magnets: on coil top & bottom: the effect is still enhanced: about .9V output

Conclusion for now: it's my opinion that it's not difficult at all to obtain kicks without any external supply...just use a magnet.  It worths to build on the Wattsup idea  to inject output signal on some Litz leads in order to obtain quickly a sort of regeneration=kick multiplication.

It is possible if you want to show some pics about said tests.

@ all
next step IS TO FIND THE CORRECT WAY TO USE THE MAG GENERATED KICK!  please do expose yours ideas  as I can check them quickly!

Roberto




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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #233 on: October 12, 2007, 11:49:01 AM »
Hello all,

@Roberto,

try to connect as a Mobius.

Otto

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« Reply #234 on: October 12, 2007, 11:53:42 AM »
Hello all,

I need to clear up a bit of confusion that I have. But first I would like to relate an experience from my youth.

When I was younger I would build these massive coils with as much inductance as possible. I would then connect a 9 Volt battery and get the magnetic field to full strength. Now when the voltage to the coil was cut the field would collapse and I would get a large back EMF tens of times the voltage used to create the field. This was great for terrorizing unsuspecting younger siblings and small animals. (I had too much fun.)

I knew this back EMF as a "Kickback" or "Back-kick"

My question is; is this back-kick the same as the kicks that SM talks about. And also, and not separate from, are SM's "kicks" also what is generally known as "overshoot" and "undershoot?"
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/ff/Clock_signal.gif)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overshoot

Just trying to make this as clear as crystal.

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« Reply #235 on: October 12, 2007, 02:28:17 PM »
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@z_p_e

Maybe we should stick around here instead of spreading out too thin.

I don't remember talking about a vertical coil on the legs. Could you point me there.

wattsup,

It's on your latest diagram, labeled as "coil #1" and "coil #2". These are vertical coils (legs) which I  can not see in the video.

The legs are obviously there, but I can not see wire wound on them. Does anyone else see wire there?

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #236 on: October 12, 2007, 03:22:40 PM »
@z_p_e

Coil 1 and 2 are horizontal coils wound on the legs between the rings. That's about it. I did not talk about verticals on the legs themselves. But I can notice as someone else had pointed out that on leg #2, we can see it is cover with a material in order to hide what's under it. I could see a hole at the bottom of that leg. But nothing is evident to show there is a coil wound vertical on the legs.

The only other leg thing is leg #3 that has tape wound vertically over it. This is the leg were I saw another coil. So there should be three coils, four collectors but I need a little more time to formalize this.

I found the post by Duff referring to this;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3403.msg52914.html#msg52914

@Duff

Please take some time and look some more.

@EM

How did you get such a clear image. Can you do some more of this magic?
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3403.msg52797.html#msg52797

@Roberto

FANTASTIC Result!!!!!!!!!!!! This is surely enough to get a cycle going in a loop.

If the circuit was fed by the coils through a zener diode, would this turn on the circuit if the voltage reached a certain minimal level?

I will find a plexiglass piece and wind two collectors and a center coil to see what happens with half an open tpu (but nothing fancy).

I will also try to look again at the video if there is a second magnet below the coils.

Also, I want to concentrate a little more on the circuit and post some big pictures so the EEers can have a better look.

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« Reply #237 on: October 12, 2007, 04:19:53 PM »
@ all
next step IS TO FIND THE CORRECT WAY TO USE THE MAG GENERATED KICK!  please do expose yours ideas  as I can check them quickly!

Roberto

OK Roberto,

A control coil - wrapped along entire length of collector - spaced so as to add two more controls - or just wrap three at once.

Find longitudinal resonance freq of the control coil.  The mag field will no be in direction of collector but perpendicular to it -  ;D  See if you can get the effect of a magnet moving along the wire - perpendicular to it.  SM mentioned that he had measured teh control coils and that they were in the Mhz range - this correlates to Mark Snoswell's longitudinal resonant frequencies in his coils.  A "loose coupling" may prove better than tight coupling with this arrangement.  Using sine waves, I expect that the effect of a magnet rolling N-over-S along the wire is achieved. 

In music, a chord is three notes that sound simultaniously - SM referred to this.

Based on the work of Sarasin and De La Rive, a circular loop of wire with a gap in it (resembles a collector coil) will resonate at 4 X diameter, yet will "recieve" any frequency.  Tesla went to visit Hertz the exaplain to him that his "resonator" (the circular loop with a spark gap in it) recieved "longitudinal waves" - Hertz did not appreciate this.  Helmholtz and many others at the time were supporters of the "longitudinal wave propagation" theory.

In short, I think that SM "chord" may be rsonant with a huge wave of electric potetnial, either "earthly" or "universally".  Review of the interactions between earth and the sun support this idea.  There are huge waves of potential - everywhere - so when you "find the circuit ptential" are you merely resonating with the ambiant potential?   Recieving such a huge amount of energy would be detrimental...




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« Reply #238 on: October 12, 2007, 04:20:17 PM »
@ all
next step IS TO FIND THE CORRECT WAY TO USE THE MAG GENERATED KICK!  please do expose yours ideas  as I can check them quickly!

Roberto

OK Roberto,

A control coil - wrapped along entire length of collector - spaced so as to add two more controls - or just wrap three at once.

Find longitudinal resonance freq of the control coil.  The mag field will no be in direction of collector but perpendicular to it -  ;D  See if you can get the effect of a magnet moving along the wire - perpendicular to it.  SM mentioned that he had measured teh control coils and that they were in the Mhz range - this correlates to Mark Snoswell's longitudinal resonant frequencies in his coils.  A "loose coupling" may prove better than tight coupling with this arrangement.  Using sine waves, I expect that the effect of a magnet rolling N-over-S along the wire is achieved. 

In music, a chord is three notes that sound simultaniously - SM referred to this.

Based on the work of Sarasin and De La Rive, a circular loop of wire with a gap in it (resembles a collector coil) will resonate at 4 X diameter, yet will "recieve" any frequency.  Tesla went to visit Hertz the exaplain to him that his "resonator" (the circular loop with a spark gap in it) recieved "longitudinal waves" - Hertz did not appreciate this.  Helmholtz and many others at the time were supporters of the "longitudinal wave propagation" theory.

In short, I think that SM "chord" may be rsonant with a huge wave of electric potetnial, either "earthly" or "universally".  Review of the interactions between earth and the sun support this idea.  There are huge waves of potential - everywhere - so when you "find the circuit ptential" are you merely resonating with the ambiant potential?   Recieving such a huge amount of energy would be detrimental...




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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #239 on: October 12, 2007, 09:59:16 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 06, 2007, 05:25:21 PM by duff »

 

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